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If Deeney happens id hope its a loan. Really wouldnt want him purchased,further down the line your just looking at a bad situation all over again if there's dicipline issues and Rafa falling out with certain players, Deeney becoming difficult to shift on with high wages and age not on his side. I dont beleive any of it anyway. I dont see him as a Rafa type.

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else. Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like. But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money. It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale. That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney. Well you need proven PL strikers because we are playing in the PL. Anything else would be a risk at this stage, and we aren't in a position to gamble. No, you don't. That's my point. All proven PL striker are playing in PL, right? So, we are buying not needed strikers, so that means that they aren't worthy of playing in PL. Do you understand? No one will sell you their primary striker, everyone sells their 3rd of 4th striker, which isn't good for us. I don't play FIFA, just FM. You are just being facetious, by proven PL, we generally mean of sufficient quality which means spending money. Who would you buy for this £8-13m you are suggesting is enough? Without any doubts, Michael Krmecnik. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-krmencik/profil/spieler/178469 A player in their mid twenties averaging 1 in 3 in under 100 appearances in the Czech league would "easily score 10-15 goals" in the Premier League now? That's not how you want to look at his stats. He started playing regulary for Victoria this season and was on a lot of loans, just like Harry Kane. He has 14 games this season, 11 goals and 6 assists in league, 4 games 3 goals and 1 assists in Europa League and 2 goals in 2 games in Champions League qualifications, which makes total of 20 games 16 goals and 7 assists this season. Further more, scored 6 goals in 10 games for Czech national team. Is that bad? Nobody really dares to take risks with unknowns. Even more so when relegation fears are involved. It would make more sense in situations like that to make a double swoop for your proven target, and maybe the unkown. And possibly hope for the best?

Bizarre. Get rid of Mitrovic then sign a similar type of player, makes no sense. And he earns some ridiculous amount hes not even justified or we wouldn't pay regardless. Dont get this one!

I would be pissed at the kind of club we will become if Deeney is a serious target. Joselu was bad enough. And some of the other crap we have collected along this shit ownership. We need something more exciting. I could forgive us if it was a loan.

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Fucking idiots. You should all know its Beardsley. And no you cant have another favorite!

Is that the first time hes been used as a striker this season?

Praise for Murphy he worked really hard in the second half. Gayle and Hayden nervey as fuck at the end not knowing how to punish stoke

Boom. No nails left. Perfect timing. Great to see Perez used as a striker again.

This game has highlighted more than any how you really need to take your chances. Is it me or does Rafa set us up better in away games and shite at home?

For once I cant moan. Think we are by far the better side. Really only Atsu not being clinical and Clark missing a sitter thats holding us back from being ahead. Even Diame has looked alright. Yedlin needs to concentrate a bit more, think we might just get something here ?

Heard he's off to West Brom

Peter Odemwingie just pulled up outside.

If clubs are wanting to sell, lets for arguments sake use ourselves as the example and mitrovic, why would we inflate the price of him if we really dont need him or want him here? Theres going to be clubs like us with players they dont use or dont want, players who want out, the world cup around the corner and players wanting to get games. I get that there will be clubs who will just treat business the same regardless of our situation and theirs. But i think if you went round advertising the fact that you are in the money it will only lead to some driving up prices. Nobody can be sure, but im pretty sure if the papers let loose with nufc takeover complete Rafa has 100m January war chest, Danny Ings at 7m could turn into Danny Ings at 17m. 4 players in becomes 3 players in etc. Obviously each to their own opinions ??

I think our new owner or owners will be far more ambitious than Ashley ever has been or will. I don't imagine we will see mega money being spent, however. I think it was be gradual growth with an emphasis on investing on infrastructure, the academy etc. They haven’t even got the ambition to get the deal done. They haven’t understood announcing this would give us a much needed lift and some hope amongst fans for real change. Instead we roll in to tomorrow with no new players which is negligent in our current situation. All their decisions so far have been money first. We’ve had 10 years of that, it hasn’t worked. The reason they wont reveal how much we have to spend is so sides wont rip us off in January. Its esier to pretend you dont have much at all, (or our takeover is still incomplete) that way clubs wont hold us to ransom. So if we do have 40m they wont say, because other clubs will over value players. We will need to be clever and shrewd in this window imo. The deal could well be done under wraps?But in our current situation nobody will be trying to help us. So keeping everything under wraps is sensible. Otherwise this side will get screwed over and go down, and the reality being we only have this window to get it right.

So in your eyes hes basically untouchable if he takes us down whos fault is it then? WHAT!? Are you serious? Of course im being serious if Pardew or McLaren took us down over 38 games whos fault would it be. Yes hes been dealt a shit hand and had the rug pulled from under him but if over the course of a full season a team is relegated the manager is at fault for it in my opinion Was it not Moyes fault that the mackems went down last year or Karankas/agnews for the boro Moyes to his credit said that Sunderland side will be relegated with no investment. Is that not what we are seeing now.

Im behind Rafa. The only thing is he never seems to change. Always the same comments after a defeat or uninspiring performance. Default: We need to keep working harder. We now focus on our next game etc etc. When is he going to flip his lid and start bollocking some of these lazy twats.

It has to be happening. Rafa would have walked by now or based on results Ashley would have sacked him. Its happening its just nufc have to look like a ridiculous outfit in everything we attempt to do, It helps the media make us look even more stupid than we actually are at getting anything done. Tradition.

5 points in 12 fixtures since our last win vs Palace who at the time were in a real mess themselves. It really isnt good viewing. And in all seriousness I really cant see us getting points from anywhere soon, after this a 6 pointer vs Swansea and the trip to City who will no doubt this time really put the 5 or 6 they should have past us at their place. If theres no investment with immediate effect then we are as good as down.

Think the Poll should reveal how people vote. ??

Aslong as they aren't about Rafa you should be alright. Why do people keep saying this? To save time. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/225/438/b0f.gif

Negative football. Players not looking arsed or trying. Waiting 83 minutes to remove ineffective players.

Go five in the middle push up Merino take off joselu and bring on Jonjo.