Odear

could be out the rele zone on tues night. The ONLY thing going for us against city are that they're gonna try and protect key players for the CL semi.

If we win today i think we can go on to get 9 points.. but this game today and Palace are the big ifs. Mackems, looking at their fixtures, i can see them getting either 2 or 5 points. Norwich took a massive blow today, they have Arsenal next, then City.. Everton and Watford after.. could lose all those, maybe get a point against Watford.. That would see us stay up, providing Mackems don't get 5 points. We won't get any more than 9, if even that.

Mitro is a good option to bring on, i love the player but he's not the most mobile.. if he's not gonna have someone playing alongside to run off his knock downs he's effectively redundant.

I'm happy Shelvey is dropped, he was rank last week and pretty much has been since his debut for us. I think Gini will score today.

I'll be taking a shower at 2.40.. this thread should perhaps meet some sort of technical error after the game finishes

Lascelles will end up being club captain eventually. A picture tells a thousand words... http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/09/23/330085D300000578-0-image-m-36_1460241503509.jpg

I would imagine most of the players we signed from the summer and January will have clauses in their contract. But that would be a great idea otherwise. The puzzling thing is that with the euros coming up, you'd think some of this lot would be really trying to play well to make sure they start matches for their countries. The way it is now, I can see the same players just turning up for the wages in the championship. They couldn't give two shits.

Would be interesting to tot the fees for every lame duck signing we've made since Keegan left in 96/97. I would hazard a guess it's comparable to what teams like Bayern or Milan have spent.

£6m wasn't it? I believe it was 12. I think that was Townsend. Him too.. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jan/12/jonjo-shelvey-signs-newcastle-transfer-swansea

£6m wasn't it? I believe it was 12. ** http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jan/12/jonjo-shelvey-signs-newcastle-transfer-swansea

Shelvey is the soft slow gooey center of everything that's wrong with the side, has he ever won a tackle? Never presses, constantly does this retreat hop backwards every time the opposition gets the ball in midfield, never wins a header. It must be a dream to play against him. Swansea probably couldn't believe their luck. 12m my arse.

Did I just see 2 or 3 of our players on the subs bench laughing about something as Rodriguez was being brought on? Despicable if so.

I still want us to win, don't understand that mentality, why would you want more embarrassment ? I want total embarrassment for tossers like Shelvey, Taylor, Janmaat, Sissoko and to a lesser extent Wijnaldum. The only thing Shelvey has done since signing for us is about 3 decent passes. He just sits back and is happy to be a passenger the whole game. The QE2 could turn quicker than Taylor. Janmaat has the worst attitude I've seen at the club since Keyring.. Sissoko sometimes puts a shift in but he thinks he's a CL standard player? Is he fuck.. and Wijnaldum just doesn't quite know what to make of any of it.. playing with a bunch of total cowards has to be a new thing for him. The sum of their parts is why each and every one of us suffers through 90 mins each week... they should be made to endure all the abuse, scathing analysis and tarnished reputations. And Steve McLaren certainly played his part here too. Rafa is left holding the baby at the end of the season. It all comes back to Mike Ashley inevitably, so he'll be damned either way. But let's face it.. the club spent big this year. Does he deserve the full brunt of the anger? Or should it be directed at all these "parts" that have us doomed?

I accepted relegation last week, from this point on I hope they get stuffed in every single game. Rafa can do what he likes, it's not his fault. But I hope he leaves on the likes of Taylor for every minute.. make the fucker suffer. It really is so embarrassing.

Seeing that replay, that's possibly the worst defending I've ever seen.

One way trip to Switzerland for Steven Taylor please.

Why do we put ourselves through this every week? At least those cunts on the pitch are getting a salary for it

useless cunts. Shelvey is dogshit.

I'm not suggesting that he would, but he claims to love the club.. he obviously loves his salary more. Out of principle, if I was in that position I would walk. The club has to come first.

Perhaps relegation is the best thing for us? I would dearly love to see Rafa manage us for a full season though, the potential is massive. Carr got lucky with Cabaye, that's about all he's ever done right.. he's been exposed now but let's not forget he was a darling not so long ago.. and the general consensus wouold have been to give him full control over signing players, over Pardew of course.

Tried to slip off like a rat from a sinking ship. Ultimately, it's Mike's fault for hiring these people but for someone who comes from the area, who claims to love the club.. would he not have held his hands up and said, "I'm out of my depth here" Same goes for managers like McClaren.. they'll peddle an excuse every week if it means getting that nice pay off. Say what you want about Ruud Gullit, but he resigned and didn't take a penny from the club. These fuckers are basically leeches, they'll stick on until the very last drop of blood. I think Ashley will ultimately sell the club but in order to do that it has to be healthy, the finances are ok now but it's complete chaos at every other level. He'll try and get Rafa to stay, who else would be better qualified to sort the club out and really make a mark, just like Keegan did when he brought us up. The likes of Carr, Charnley and Moncur can do one. And Beardsley needs to be moved somewhere..

The problem isn't injuries or formations, tactics etc.. none of it. The problem is that 90% of our squad literally don't give a shit. They're absolute professionals at giving the right sound bytes to the media but they couldn't care less about this club. Coloccini is the captain.. the one all the others have followed. By the time Rafa manages to drive a wedge between Colo and the rest that follow him, the season will be over. He'll be furious about it.. as it was well within his skills to win games as a manager.. he's just dealing with a particular bunch of bad eggs

I would suggest those books have been cooked in a way to attract the type who wants to buy a football club. Forget what he said.. i think he'll be away from this club in the next year. Whatever division we're playing in. I would dearly love to see what Rafa could do with the club but i'm ok with being relegated if it burns the club and it's regime to the ground.. the foundations are rancid at the moment, it needs a total rebuilding job. Not just the squad, the ethos from youth training, all the way up.

That'll be Talksports catchphrase. Arguably, the rot started well before Pardew left.. giving Carver and McLaren 6 months a piece knowing they were only making things worse and then pinning all hope on a decent manager with 10 games to go. The pure stupidity is baffling.

No fight whatsoever, no leadership on the pitch. It's like these cunts have no idea of the situation the club is in.. or they just couldn't give a fuck. I honestly don't think any substitute apart from Mitrovic will have much effect on the game, De Jong will make no impact if Norwich have all the possession, same for Perez.. at least our no.45 gives a shit and will attempt to get a hold of the ball.