HaydnNUFC

Stop referring to our fans as mugs, and making judgement on people's lives, as you're coming across as a right patronising cunt. You clearly jumped on board during the Keegan glory years, and hopped off when we weren't as good. For some, being a football supporter is following your team through thick and thin.....it's very hard to walk away. I managed it for 18 months but started going again as I missed it, and more importantly, my son wanted to go......I wasn't going to deny him that chance, or see him grow up supporting a Man City/Chelsea or whatever. You've done the same there no? either way what you do is totally up to you but you're making it seem like if you don't go to home game its not following your team through thick and thin? that's not how it is, end of the day the stadium is in the city centre, easily accessible its not difficult to go to games, its harder to not go really. People can still be die hard supporters and not go to games, I don't like that people equate the two things. I went to my first game when I was 5, even went on away trips with my older brother when I was very young, but i couldn't go to home games because I lived away. I've literally wanted a season ticket my entire life but I just can't under ashley, that doesn't make me any less of a fan. He's not really suggesting that tbf, that not going to games doesn't make you a huge NUFC fan. HTT is talking a load of wank and enormously generalising imo but that's his opinion and he's entitled to it. UB is just saying it's hard for those going to games to just stop on a whim, not that HTT can't have opinions for whatever reason. That's what I got from it anyway. It is hard I agree and I should know as I refuse to go but I won’t let that fat cunt take the piss out of me one more day and won’t be back until he has gone which I have no doubt will be years. You say he didn’t mean it like that then why mention thick and thin and Keegan glory boy then. This forum totally illustrates the divide between the support in general about what the support should be doing to put intense pressure on the utter cretin of a owner. West Ham fans although maybe a tad too much showed the type of action which should be taken. Won’t happen here though. Saw the Keegan jibe as a response to calling everyone in the ground on a match day mugs who deserve Pardew tbf. See my post above about lack of unity.

Stop referring to our fans as mugs, and making judgement on people's lives, as you're coming across as a right patronising cunt. You clearly jumped on board during the Keegan glory years, and hopped off when we weren't as good. For some, being a football supporter is following your team through thick and thin.....it's very hard to walk away. I managed it for 18 months but started going again as I missed it, and more importantly, my son wanted to go......I wasn't going to deny him that chance, or see him grow up supporting a Man City/Chelsea or whatever. You've done the same there no? either way what you do is totally up to you but you're making it seem like if you don't go to home game its not following your team through thick and thin? that's not how it is, end of the day the stadium is in the city centre, easily accessible its not difficult to go to games, its harder to not go really. People can still be die hard supporters and not go to games, I don't like that people equate the two things. I went to my first game when I was 5, even went on away trips with my older brother when I was very young, but i couldn't go to home games because I lived away. I've literally wanted a season ticket my entire life but I just can't under ashley, that doesn't make me any less of a fan. He's not really suggesting that tbf, that not going to games doesn't make you a huge NUFC fan. HTT is talking a load of wank and enormously generalising imo but that's his opinion and he's entitled to it. UB is just saying it's hard for those going to games to just stop on a whim, not that HTT can't have opinions for whatever reason. That's what I got from it anyway. That's fair, i just mean the "supporting through thick and thin" just seems like saying if you don't go to games you aren't doing that. Which I disagree with. It's much much worse having to watch the game on a shitty stream or via periscope tbh. TBF, the whole 'the better fan' conundrum is tiresome and is what is holding the fanbase back. "I go to games and have been since year x and so my opinions have more value than yours." "I stopped going/don't go to games because of Ashley and so my opinions have more value than yours." People are on one side or the other and it's fucking boring. Hence the peculiar lack of unity in a fanbase of a club that has United in the name. It's all one side talking the other down, yearning for some sort of Röhm Putsch against the other. Makes the sides close their ears to the noise even more. We all need to get behind 1 ideal and stick with it. Many are going with Rafa Goes I Go thing including myself. But those that don't aren't cunts or less of a fan of NUFC than anyone else.

Stop referring to our fans as mugs, and making judgement on people's lives, as you're coming across as a right patronising cunt. You clearly jumped on board during the Keegan glory years, and hopped off when we weren't as good. For some, being a football supporter is following your team through thick and thin.....it's very hard to walk away. I managed it for 18 months but started going again as I missed it, and more importantly, my son wanted to go......I wasn't going to deny him that chance, or see him grow up supporting a Man City/Chelsea or whatever. You've done the same there no? either way what you do is totally up to you but you're making it seem like if you don't go to home game its not following your team through thick and thin? that's not how it is, end of the day the stadium is in the city centre, easily accessible its not difficult to go to games, its harder to not go really. People can still be die hard supporters and not go to games, I don't like that people equate the two things. I went to my first game when I was 5, even went on away trips with my older brother when I was very young, but i couldn't go to home games because I lived away. I've literally wanted a season ticket my entire life but I just can't under ashley, that doesn't make me any less of a fan. He's not really suggesting that tbf, that not going to games doesn't make you a huge NUFC fan. HTT is talking a load of wank and enormously generalising imo but that's his opinion and he's entitled to it. UB is just saying it's hard for those going to games to just stop on a whim, not that HTT can't have opinions for whatever reason. That's what I got from it anyway.

i was also too young for the mckeag and pre-SJH stuff but i find it hard to accept that they would have went as far out of their way to deliberately hamper on-field progress of the football club as ashley has Correct Mckeag tried to run the club as best as he could, just couldnt afford it. we finished 8th in 88? and went out and spent big that summer- and went into the following season tipped as contenders for silverware- only to be dismally relegated. The money we spent in summer '88, was that not just the Gascoigne money or did that go towards building the new stand? not sure- tbh, also heard beardsley money went towards milburn stand- whatever way you read it, they did try and spend some money, it felt like mega spending in the day c£3m on the back of an 8th place finish. not excusing the shitness of Mckeag and the benefits of Hall, just adding to the point, I dont think he was there to deliberately block ambition. I've watched the Newcastle Disunited documentary, there a handful of similarities. The Beardsley contract situation (the club made out that they tried to keep him and offered x amount of money but he turned it down, when they didn't offer a contract at all), lack of care about the condition of the stadium albeit to a far greater extent to now, selling best players to buy, not listening to fans, being stubborn in the face of criticism and/or external bidders and investors and very archaic. I think they actually wanted the club to succeed but the cash wasn't there and the ways in which the club operated were outdated as hell.

https://twitter.com/StewartTweets/status/1020312153067171840

i was also too young for the mckeag and pre-SJH stuff but i find it hard to accept that they would have went as far out of their way to deliberately hamper on-field progress of the football club as ashley has Correct Mckeag tried to run the club as best as he could, just couldnt afford it. we finished 8th in 88? and went out and spent big that summer- and went into the following season tipped as contenders for silverware- only to be dismally relegated. The money we spent in summer '88, was that not just the Gascoigne money or did that go towards building the new stand?

Should be locked in for the Saturday. Then again I'm sceptical of any Sky changes after the Everton farce last season.

http://www.sendshit.co.uk/ What a website that is. Might use it, know some right twats.

We can put pressure on but can we put an end in sight? We must try, of course we have to and I will be, but without a buyer that'll call his bluff, how does he fuck off?

Attacking SD would have to be on a massive, quasi-whole stadium on a matchday thing with anti SD banners, as I doubt stewards would try and hoy out ≥35,000 fans. When it's a handful it won't have that much of an impact. When we drew 3-3 at home to Man United under McClaren a large banner with an anti SD message was displayed for about 30 seconds before stewards threw the people displaying it out.

Did the United Supporters For Change group get attacked by the 'wasting your time' brigade in the very early 90s?

Having a go at them for being "cringe" ffs. Fucking Mako-esque.

Contract is up at the end of this season. He's practically gone. I would've been amazed if we got a fee for him.

Club are refunding people who paid for the St. Patrick's game as it was free on multiple platforms.

Should’ve sacked him last season when we were 100% going down, for me.

Striker. We created plenty of chances in games last season: Swansea at home, Burnley at home, Everton at home, Huddersfield away. Defensively we're okay.

Can the BBC do another version for nowadays of the documentary Newcastle Disunited they did during the 88/89 season?

If Rafa goes I'm gone too. Hopefully I'm gone regardless, and be starting my first year at uni.

Hence why I don't think it matters if we go down or not; he'll "loan" the club money to be promoted again and the cycle continues. We're doomed whether he's here.

I don't know or have seen anyone buying the new kit or with the new kit on. The price is a piss take, you can get genuine retro ones for cheaper.

Aye, it's on purpose, utterly ridiculous but as true as you get. .com had it spot on. This was written immediately after we humped Chelsea at the end of last season. "Sadly, it wouldn't be Newcastle United without a close season polluted by scare stories and doubts over our future direction and personnel. To move past that sideshow quickly and concentrate on the real business of improving the squad would be a welcome bonus - anything else risks diluting our progress and losing our momentum. Screw this up and it looks like sabotage."

Don't know if Pardew would have the balls tbh. Think it would be Fat Sam.

imo worthless opinion it's purely down to their history of sustained success, they know what the club has been and won't accept it being any less (or trying to be any less) all we've got is support the team not the regime because we've never known anything but that being our reason for existence Wasn't the case in the late 80s and early 90s. Though the only thing I've been able to distil stuff from about that period is the old documentaries that the BBC have done which are on YouTube. United Supporters For Change group, boycotts, mass grief for the board. Though that board actually turned up at games and lived in the city. Ashley doesn't and won't give a shit. But we should certainly at least try.

https://twitter.com/AshleyOutdotcom/status/1019258072076832768