Shadow Puppets

I think it's pretty unknown at this point whether the bid is actually still on the table. I actually don't think much has changed apart from statements from all parties in a last attempt to push it through. Didn't one of the statements say they'd withdrawn? Yeah, and other reports have said it's still there. And the statements from Staveley and the Reuben's both make it pretty clear that things are ready to go immediately on response from the PL. Plus Rocker's info on the consortium talking with the PL still.

I think it's pretty unknown at this point whether the bid is actually still on the table. I actually don't think much has changed apart from statements from all parties in a last attempt to push it through.

Yes - and I want it to

There’s 100% something not quite right about him like, but his heart seems to be in the right place.

Joined too ?

What he's saying is good but what the fuck is going on with the editing (?) on the video and the chopping and changing, seemingly zooming in and out all the time. Made it unwatchable for me. Had to close my eyes and pretend it was a podcast. Pretty common with YouTueb vloggers. Annoys the hell out of me but 95% of the videos I watch are the same.

He was clown with the MP Chi to do town hall and give Qatar best ammunition to use it the NUFC fans dont want the takeover. ?

Why?

I really do feel that this is the last throw of the dice from Stavely. It is designed to heap pressure on the PL. Don’t think it’s over quite yet, but not looking good.

Does Staveley have any left? For a little while, she breaks off. “I’m crying, I’m sorry,” she says. She knew what she wanted to say if and when the takeover had been passed. A mission statement was prepared and practised. She would have talked about ambition and drive, about getting to the Champions League, about communicating with fans, embracing club legends, funding the women’s team, reaching out to local businesses and institutions. Instead, it is this. “I’m trying very hard to understand,” she says. “Today is probably not the right day … I need to figure out if there is any route through this.” “Even now, if the Premier League came to us and said ‘we will approve you’ we would do this deal tomorrow, all three parties of the consortium,” Ghodoussi says. “Mike has agreed, we’ve agreed, the Reubens, PIF,” says Staveley. “The only reason the deal won’t get done is because the Premier League won’t pass it. Everybody is just so, so sad.” Is there a chance, however slim? “I don’t know,” she says. “I just don’t know. I don’t want to give up, but I can’t do it on my own. I’ve tried. I’ve tried and I’ve tried and I’ve tried. You need investment. You can’t just buy a club with no investment behind you. You need £600-700 million minimum, to do a deal like this. That was all in place.” She breaks off again. “I can’t believe it,” she says.

On what basis would they take legal action considering the PL craftily never actually rejected the bid? I don’t know man, I’m not a lawyer. But I’d imagine there’s grounds for legal action if they’ve repeatedly done all that’s asked of them and the goalposts have been continuously moved, eventually resulting in the collapse of the deal. I’m clinging to that last tiny thread of hope anyway.

I guess there is a small glimmer of hope that this is one big power play from PIF to put a huge amount of pressure on the PL to get their fingers out of their arses. The threat of legal action etc. Doubt we’ve heard the last of it.

Jesus christ!

The structure thing is so clearly bullshit. Clickbait. It would have been among the questions on day 1, not a stumbling point on day 100.

I mean, those quotes are quite clearly guesswork. Remember that only a handful of people at the PL know about this and it's sworn to secrecy, yet Edwards reckons he has a source who knows the ins and outs. Bullshit.

Tomorrow remains the day, when our new owners finally take over. Deluded much? Why? How? In what way? In every conceivable way

How exactly would that have been any different? ?

Is this a guess or do you know it for sure? For sure Maybe it's already approved then, and just waiting on funds to transfer? Once the PL have done that approval, Saudi Arabia could pull this kind of stunt and whilst the PL might be sat there facepalming back at PL HQ, it's too late. It's possible the Saudis have just been sat waiting for approval from the PL for the takeover to do this to BeIN. Fucking hell, I think I've just been optimistic about this. No, it hasn’t already been approved. They just don’t see today’s news as an issue. There’s definitely been several sources telling the journos in the last 48 hours that approval is coming any day now, but they are understandably reluctant to print anything because we’ve been here before.

Is this a guess or do you know it for sure? For sure

Yeah, the local journos have been briefed by the buyers this afternoon that the news today will not affect the approval of the deal in any way. They’re either incredibly confident of it happening regardless or they’re blissfully unaware of how unhinged it looks from the outside.

Signed off within the next week judging by the sources of that article.

Yep. That was really really good. Think everyone should listen to that for some insights into this takeover and previous ones that didn’t quite make. Interesting that BZG pulled out because they felt it was an insult to have to pay a non-refundable deposit to Ashley, along with a number of other insults they felt Ashley dealt them. Also, rumours that the new owners have already bought the freehold for SJP. (Some leaks from the city council) And that PIF/PCP etc had been told around June 1st by the PL that they were going to pass the takeover but on the proviso that they make efforts to sort the piracy. PIF apparently felt that this meant the deal was done. Well worth a listen, whatever you think of Wraith and Mitch. Agree completely I have no problem with the dentist, he openly admits he’s a gobshite and Hastie comes across as very genuine bloke. Found it very interesting that as recent as January they were meeting with midhat, and sheik khaled was at 65% about getting involved in another attempt to buy club. Also if BZG had taken over we would have become the club of Dubai, with even more prominent people involved, I'm assuming they were suggesting the Maktoum’s. However, once they had it confirmed PIF were interested they couldn’t compete. Like LV says well worth a listen if your in to this s***. I mean, listening to that they both quite clearly have absolutely no idea what’s going on. They’re both just out to raise their own profiles. Completely made up bullshit. Each to there own but find this constant put down of fellow fans a bit tiresome. Really don’t know how you come to that conclusion having listened to it, some very detailed information in there. Also as Greg on here will confirm I believe, wraith actually does have contact with PCP, much as people may not like these characters, to dismiss their info as bullshit is wide of the mark. I listen to them most weeks. Last nights was quite interesting. You're right, people love to shit all over other NUFC fans. That's up to them, I tend to ignore what others say and judge for myself whether some people are talking shite or not. I'm sorry like, you're free to believe whatever you like, but regardless of whether Steve Wraith may have at some point had some contact with Stavely, it's been clear for months that he knows nothing and isn't getting fed any info... he has even repeatedly told everyone to follow Caulkin for the correct up to date news. He himself isn't get anything. And Geordie Dentist, come on man. He's a canny guy but come on ? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to spot when people are self promoting themselves... why the hell would Wraith or the dentist have knowledge of this stuff... or to rephrase that... why would it be reliable, when the whole thing is subject to NDAs and is notoriously clouded in mystery? They are both trying to build their own social profiles... that is all.

Yep. That was really really good. Think everyone should listen to that for some insights into this takeover and previous ones that didn’t quite make. Interesting that BZG pulled out because they felt it was an insult to have to pay a non-refundable deposit to Ashley, along with a number of other insults they felt Ashley dealt them. Also, rumours that the new owners have already bought the freehold for SJP. (Some leaks from the city council) And that PIF/PCP etc had been told around June 1st by the PL that they were going to pass the takeover but on the proviso that they make efforts to sort the piracy. PIF apparently felt that this meant the deal was done. Well worth a listen, whatever you think of Wraith and Mitch. Agree completely I have no problem with the dentist, he openly admits he’s a gobshite and Hastie comes across as very genuine bloke. Found it very interesting that as recent as January they were meeting with midhat, and sheik khaled was at 65% about getting involved in another attempt to buy club. Also if BZG had taken over we would have become the club of Dubai, with even more prominent people involved, I'm assuming they were suggesting the Maktoum’s. However, once they had it confirmed PIF were interested they couldn’t compete. Like LV says well worth a listen if your in to this shit. I mean, listening to that they both quite clearly have absolutely no idea what’s going on. They’re both just out to raise their own profiles. Completely made up bullshit.