Kid Icarus

Very hard to know to what extent the game plan was the issue because the players just didn't turn up. Maybe he should have mitigated for that happening, I don't know.

Shit happened. Just need to get over it and move on.

Can it cost some poster's theirs on here if it doesn't happen? The wetness is off the scale man.

The wetness intensifies

I'm calling it early.

Nah, not for me

Comfortably. The other contenders (West Ham, Bournemouth, Brighton) were either freaks or included us having decent spells. We've been beaten in every single aspect here, and with zero effort from the players.

No one said it was okay. It's about whether the form factors into how seriously you take this in the grand scheme of things. If you don't really believe in things like records between teams I would imagine you take this result and performance much more seriously in the grand scheme of things than you might if you do believe in them.

Not offside at all there. Supposed to let it play out as well.

You see it time and again with players who have a final in sight like. Even if it's subconscious they'll be in protection mode for the final, it's shite.

They're good when you're not watching the match mind. Follow on there then get home expecting the worst and it turns out we played canny. Today notwithstanding

Gordon's been as bad as I've ever seen him here, it's mad.

Don't be so wet over nothing man.

I agree, but at the same time we've also been miles better in the last 3 years and these records do weigh heavy imo. Great teams have them too.

Eh

This is the thing, if you're judging overall and not on a match-to-match basis, your opinion of Howe should be even higher, not lower.

Whether you agree with it or not, you know exactly what Yorkie's point is though. Our form there. We haven't even scored there in 7 games.

System aside, does it look to you like the players are executing whatever they've been asked to do and it's the system letting them down?

It didn't take much for the Howe converts to change their minds and start pretending they saw the signs did it? Convictionless cunts.

Finals on the horizon really do fuck up league form mind. It happens constantly to everyone except the teams with bigger fish to fry.

Not even that

Unacceptable this like.

The frustrating thing is the missed opportunities we have to score tbh, awful decision making and lack of support.