Kid Icarus

Yah

The Jinx is the pick of the lot imo.

Manquillo for Krafth and I think that's what it'll be too.

Police can and do plant or tamper with evidence. I would say instead of imagining being a moors murder victims parent, imagine being innocent and your life hanging in the balance of whether the police can be trusted to be both competent and uncorrupt.

This is the most nervous I've been for some reason. Win this and we're essentially safe.

I think the point Wullie was making is that people will argue for absurd things, but that doesn't mean we should listen to them or take their points seriously. Understanding them is a different matter so I think what you're saying is fair enough.

Can't think of one specific high, but the low will probably still be Blackburn away 95/96 for quite a while yet.

It's still an absurd example in the first place, which is what I was getting at, not really whether it's more or less absurd. I can understand why people would be for it, I know people who are for it. Unfortunately the reason I understand why these people are for it is because they either don't know or don't care about its history, its deliberate misuse, or its ineffectiveness. They just want what they view as justice and pay no mind to the morality of it, let alone the innocent people who'll be executed along the way.

Killing people as punishment for crimes isn't an absurd example in itself?

The lad was trying to excuse executions in Saudi Arabia. How far Saudi Arabia has come on as a country or our country's own sins have nothing to do with that. It was me replying to him, not the UK replying to Saudi Arabia.

Sepp Blatter if we're going with serious answers.

I'm well aware of what 'my' country is like, its history, its imperialism and am completely opposed to all of it. If I was criticising SA while excusing the UK, your posts would have a point, but as I'm not, they don't.

Drivel

Christ, it's nearly identical

You're saying this like we (the clique) support those things or haven't condemned them.

It's extremely 90s like. Should have got Ash Willerton to do it.

Would be interesting to see what they'd have to say if they knew that 1 - we fucking hate Pardew and 2 - he used to regularly say the opposite - we can't compete with... and that our academy players don't have the intelligence of players from Southampton Speaking of Lyle Lanley, someone on the football ramble wrote in the day to say that Pardew once narced on him and his makes for bunking off school to play football.

My first experience of it was with Ginola and that was when we were going for the league title. You're right, it doesn't matter how good we are, any player like that will get the same criticism from the same people. I think it was Leffe who use to have that quote about Glenn Hoddle as his signature: a luxury player is the player that can't do what he can do. Someone who can't see a pass and keeps giving the ball away, they're the luxury players, not Glenn Hoddle. Something like that. Spot on imo.

Have no real problem with any set of non-plastic, non-RTG fans tbh, and have a particular affinity for scousers because of my grandad. Sending Frankie de Tory down is incentive enough though. Despite the chirpy personality, a Tory's a Tory, and he's also done nothing to warrant being Everton manager either.

I liked him, but bringing him back would be for purely sentiment's sake when there wasn't really a lot of sentiment.

It's the 'no one' that should be in quotations.

Last time you checked with who? Clearly not a regular in the US or UK politics threads then. We don't even have a death penalty for a start.

You might want to come in a little less hot with your attempts at manipulation. The death penalty isn't acceptable under any circumstances here, so keep that in mind and work backwards from there rather than trying to appeal to us because of who was executed.

No doubt, but when those that do have the power to ask don't, it strikes me as a convenient deflection for those in power that these questions are put to people in football and kept within that environment. Not exclusive to this topic either, the same applies with the fixation on footballers wages too. Maybe a bit of an aside, but I remember watching Manufacturing Consent a while ago and brushing off what I thought was a massively far-fetched notion. The notion that sport is used as a political tool by those in power to deflect, distract, promote irrational submission to authority/tribalism/nationalism, and as something inconsequential for people to pour their mental energy into that keeps us away from those in power. As time's gone on, the more I think about that the more it rings true.