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A new stadium, new training ground and the court cases were always going to take time. I'm not like a little kid wanting his toys though. They have already mentioned that they will be coming out next year and if they don't (they will) then their commitment can start to be discussed. Sponsorship deals will tie in when everything has been clarified with the Man City case. A new training ground was always going to be further down then line and that's why they spent millions updating Benton. The term once in a generation cost has also been stated, but I would imagine would mean training ground, stadium and a stadium for the lasses team (might not either). As for the new stadium I'm quite sure they could have announced an out of town one pretty quickly. However, if they are going down the lines of what the fans want, a new stadium within the city centre, then finding the necessary land and in all probability heated and objective-able discussions concerning building on green land, will take a considerable amount of time. St James is a no go as it's not economically viable with the cost, the big physical limitations, lost revenue and playing elsewhere during building work. Not one person has had any factual information concerning why PIF aren't doing this and that, just pure hyperbole guesswork (I can't be bothered to check, but I'm pretty sure some were not keen on PIF being owners anyway). When we do have factual information, then we can all discuss the rights or wrongs in their decisions.

With respect I couldn't give a toss what your mates say. I'll await the official announcements and then actual discussion based on factual information can then take place. You know that has always been my thought process as I've discussed this with you a few times before

So basically again you're saying you haven't a clue either what is going to happen. Why should the club lay out plans until they are finalised and confirmed. It's a business first and foremost. When the announcements are made, then people can vent their frustration or show their positivity. Opinions are being formed based on fuck all currently. We have had strong suggestions that we will be building a new stadium at a cost of two billion plus in more likelihood. That alone is a massive statement of intent at six times plus the cost the owners bought the club for. All I see when it comes to the owners is speculation based on nothing. Wait for the announcements and then discuss based on factual information.

I don't go on guesswork maybe you should try doing that also. Every company in the world make mistakes or could have done things better. It's the end result what matters.

Because we will be in a situation to then bump sponsorship also, again you're guessing on what the current situation is. We don't know what or what has not been submitted to the premier league already. Training ground they have spent millions updating the current one and I'm quite sure we will hear something with the announcement of the stadium. As for the stadium we will hear the decision pretty soon and if it is Leazes Park, then I'm not surprised that will have took three years to resolve. They had trust with Staveley (as did nearly all of our fans) and made the decision to let her and her husband go due to a combination of the problems occurring and her own company insolvency issues/court cases. Howe and Mitchell I've no doubt will have been told exactly what the situation is. We've been told that announcements will be made in the new year, they will be judged correctly on those at that time. Instead of picking holes based on fuck all, why don't you just wait until those announcements are made. You're just making constant guesses, when you don't have a clue what is actually happening

You're assessing based off nothing though as you haven't a clue what is actually happening. The only thing we have heard of lately is the strong likelihood of a new stadium costing 2 billion or more, that certainly doesn't sound like PIF not being interested. As for the sponsorship, they will be waiting for the Man City APT case to be finally resolved and the tribunal clarification, which is totally the right thing to do.

The doom clan back again I see

I'm of the opinion it will be the owners who ultimately decide and I'm quite happy to accept that. Be interesting, as I think they will be definitely be looking for European football come the end of the season. Do they think Howe can bring that? If not do they want to change it before it becomes too late?

Of course it was, there is some right bollocks being spouted on here. The standard of performance and results are nowhere near good enough. It's up to the manager to sort it out, something he does not seem capable of doing presently. 0 shots against the team who were second bottom in the league is not acceptable. This is not a one off, I was fully expecting a response after Monday night, but that today was beyond unacceptable and the manager's comments after the game were quite alarming

What's not true about it?

The fans opinion means absolutely nothing either way, same as the stadium it will be solely down to what the owners decide

Problem is it might be too late then and we're looking at a total rebuild again. I'm not sure the owners will accept that

Depends who you believe as Mitchell basically refuted what Howe was saying

No it wouldn't I certainly would have been saying that the performance was shit and 0 efforts in 98 minutes against the second bottom team in the table is not good enough

He's under pressure and rightly so, the level of performance never mind the results are not good enough

Another shit performance again. Didn't deserve fuck all out of that game. No shots apart from one own goal is not good enough

Del Piero against Juventus also. He was actually overawed by it after the game

The standard in that league is shocking mind if that is two of the teams in the top 4

Hopefully the cabbage patch doll is not doing the draw. She's actually looking into the bag when making the draw, the times she has done it.

I think it's funny as fuck how they create lies to try and hide their deficiencies. The photo of another NUFC game to try and offset their crowd on Tuesday and actually creating a false Facebook profile to try and say the seagull shagger was a Newcastle fan (he was in prison when it was created). Sad cunts

Got as much chance of it happening as Sunderland having a sell out midweek crowd