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We could have won this so easily

It’s not just down to the manager, they were years ahead of us in terms of infrastructure

Welbeck did what Isak didn’t

There’s also a fair chance that Howe is using Mintehs name politically, don’t read into it to much either way. Hes gone so let’s at least try and move on

Moyes back in

Hes a solid player for any PL side that use the right system. We got the most out of a lot of our more technically limited players by using brute force, the focus was on physicality and Longstaff did well at it. He shown he’s a pretty intelligent player to. He functions well in a pressing side on the front foot. He’d look poor in possession based sides but he’s not a poor player. It’s not worth selling him from a financial perspective, and he’s not worth replacing for the cost. I think people often overlook how important players like him are to have around the team as well, a local lad who’s content with being in the squad. It counts for a lot.

Can’t wait to hear McClarens Jamaican accent

Yeah, I made this point after the Greece game. I think for any of those nations they would have given him the chance at least.

I get your point, and yes we don’t exactly have a talented crop of English options available. However if we want the possibility of quick success with an appointment like Tuchel then it’s important to drop the ego and make the best choice for the side, regardless of his nationality.

Only England could go from a potential Lee Carsley appointment to Thomas Tuchel, and then have the fans twist that he was born in the wrong country.

That’s a stretch although I’d agree to an extent. Toxic doesn’t necessarily mean no patience is involved, but im specifically referring to the toxic relationship with your ownership.

They’ve just given a pretty toxic fanbase one of the biggest sticks possible to beat them with

Bet he can’t wait to work with Ashworth again

I’m confused, that’s a really bizarre comparison

Tuchel would have so many more attractive offers if he’s patient

Don’t let the media mind fuck you over this, after last night Howe to England was free clicks.

Yeah, agreed. That’s not his game. We lose so much passing progression on our right hand side without Trippier, Livra is defensively solid but he’s not a technically natural attacking full back. We arnt deploying a full bore press anymore so technical and creative quality in wide areas is more important than before, we are just lacking in this regard especially without Trippier. Luckily Hall is progressive on the other side. I’ve mentioned it before, but you get the most out of players like Tonali and Livramento in a press. Two players that seemed to be signed for the style that we don’t seem to want to use anymore.. not saying we can’t still get very good use out of these players because we are able to adapt and will do so.

Yeah, I’m kind of with you. Although like I said I wouldn’t completely write him off, this kind of appointment is risky but he’s worked with and is popular with a lot of these players. It does have potential.

Working within the England set up for years and seeing alot of this current squad of players through isn’t necessarily a negative.. Im not saying he’s the man, im just saying writing him off completely is probably a bit short sighted. It wouldn’t be out of form for the FA to appoint him tbh.

Why? Who would you want?

That’ll probably be that for Carsley but should be given a real chance imo. He took a big risk and picked an unbalanced team tonight, almost felt like fan service to try and fit those attacking players in one team.

Don’t waste your time Same was said about Gallagher

Klopp is a red bull guy

He and Pep have been together there and at Barca, I think Begiristain was actually a big reason Pep got the Barca job in the first place. He was the one who pushed for it when others weren’t keen and has had a massive part in signing key players. Could mean Pep’s time at City is coming to a close.

Yeah Isak at #10 is a non starter, unless you are talking about the odd game. It’s madness to play him anywhere but central striker with our current squad either way.