Guest SLK Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 I always believed going back to the Gulliet days and early SBR times that Steve Harper was and still is as good as Shay Given and there is nothing between them in terms of goal keeping skills. The only advantage Given has over Harper is that he has more first team experience which is NOT Harper's fault as I think Harper could have been England number one had he played all these years instead of Given... So after 3 premiere league games and 1 FA cup game and three goals conceded which I think he wasn't at fault for any of them, do you think he should keep his place in the team and it is his shirt to loose ? If it was up to me I would keep Harper in as I think this is how you reward players for there good performance... Good on ya Harper, take that jersey from that crap Robinson and show everyone who good you are... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 yeah,.. no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 He was pretty dodge last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Competition for places is healthy, but he's nowhere near first choice for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 I think Harper communicates with his defence a bit more than Given. Otherwise Given has the advantage. However, by increasing Harper's chances, you'd hope that it would provide Given with an incentive to tone down some of his prima donna attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Harper as good as Given? Laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 WOW TIGER!!! He played well yesterday & as long as he doesn't drop clangers he should keep the jersey. He still hacks me off with the time he takes to get the ball back into the game. I know the England situation is dodgy at the moment but I think at international level Carson is the way forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin99. Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Always get nervous when he gets a pass back. Stuffs his kicks up too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 One thing you can't deny about Harper is that the defence look more comfortable from crosses as they know Harper will come and get a lot of ball, whereas they know with Given unless it is over his head he isn't coming for anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Thing that pisses me off regarding Harper is the fact he takes 5 hours over EVER goal kick. Fair enough if we're one nowt up, but when it's 0-0 or 2-2 in the 85th minute and he's dallying around on the ball it does my nut in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 At least Cacapa and Rozehnal are both good short options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 I agree with people that are saying Harper takes ages to kick the ball even if we are not ahead in score and keep screaming to the screen for him to get the ball rolling... I think people who give Shay more value than Harper are a bit unfair because if Harper had the same number of games for NUFC they would have been singing his name instead...Last year he had doggy few games because of his lack of first team football...Continuity is very important for players... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sam Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Really cant see why people give him so much stick. Typical of some of the people on here. So he's not as good as one of the best keepers in Europe, automatically makes him shit does it? He's always been an excellent deputy, what other club in the league has a reserve keeper, who fans thought for many years he was almost the same quality as the 1st keeper? Some people need to consider how lucky we are in that aspect, and that Harper hasnt left the club, as he could easily have made it as a 1st team keeper at another Premiership club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Robinson is fucking dogshit, I would play Harper ahead of him for England even if he was on the bench for us! (obviously would play someone like Carson, James first but that doesn't really make the most of my point that I think Robinson IS A MASSIVE PILE OF SHIT!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Done very well the last few games and it's nice to see Allardyce rewarding him for this. However, Given is just on a different level of class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MagicNumber9 Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Robinson is one of the most over-rated keepers, ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ridzuan Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Great and reliable keeper',but I still feel more secured with Given playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Robinson is one of the most over-rated keepers, ever. Making mistakes again yesterday, he is the goalkeeping version of Titus and having someone error prone in goal is a whole lot worse. If he still gets picked for England we may aswell give up and go home! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Given is a better keeper but Harper has done no wrong this season, keep him for a while and give him a run in the first team because he's really playing well at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ridzuan Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Robinson is rubbish.Kirkland should be given a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Harper must play! So far this season he hasnt done anything wrong and has stopped some excellent strikes, its great to see Given having to fight for his place now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 He's done very well over a few games, but I think he showed last season why Given is better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Made a great save yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 He's done very well over a few games, but I think he showed last season why Given is better. Last season means nothing! he looks like a different player and hes showing why hes playing at top level at the minute Given will struggle with injuries all season probably aswell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ridzuan Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 I think Given is injury prone nowadays.It is important that we dont overstress him into playing in every match so I think this season,we would be seeing more of Harper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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