Guest STaylor87 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I still don't understand why Harper was dropped... :\ Given has been poor for a long time now, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I was expecting him to at least attempt a jump to catch what was the goal. It seemed to happen in slow motion. It looked to me he lost sight of the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 He's starting to look a bit finished imo. Will be a real shame when he leaves the first team for good. He's still got a bit left in the tank for me, though, he might just be out of form. The majority of our squad is like. Harper for Villa, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 He just isn't himself this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Shay this season has been well below his usual high standards. We all know his kicking is shit but because he is not playing well it is even more highlighted now, I really am nervous everytime he gets the ball now. Harper IMO did little wrong to get dropped and I think he deserves his chance again. Hopefully this season is a blip for Shay, everyone goes through bad form but I think he is still a quality keeper. He has a few years left in him, keepers go on forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deep456 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I don't see what he did wrong to cost us today? The goal, there was no way he could have got there so don't say, it would have been 1-0 if he attempted to get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I really dont get all this Given bashing!!His kicking is poor but then again do ye think that we play the ball back to him too often!He had no chance for the goal and made no real blunders!I dont think hes back to his best yet but of all players Shay deserves a chance!Harpers solid but hes no way i the same league as Given!When Harper was in goal everyone was complaining why wasnt Given in goal!Was Harper injured today Fraser Froster was on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Iffy as fuck today, not the first time either. Sad to see, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 For the first ten minutes in the second half, Given looked for the short option with his distribution. It was like someone had brought him up on it at half time, but at the first sign of pressure, he reverted back to type for the rest of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 The biggest problem I find with Given is that he hardly ever comes out to collect crosses, add that to him having shite distribution and he's slowly been getting on my tits for a while now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 The problem is if you compare a lot of teams with us, we play it back to the keeper for clearances far too often. It was most highlighted to me in the two Arsenal games. I'd say Given has to deal with as many 'clearence' backpasses in a game than Almunia (or Lehmann) probably have to deal with in a season. We just don't do him any favours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 The problem is if you compare a lot of teams with us, we play it back to the keeper for clearances far too often. It was most highlighted to me in the two Arsenal games. I'd say Given has to deal with as many 'clearence' backpasses in a game than Almunia (or Lehmann) probably have to deal with in a season. We just don't do him any favours. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest battyleespeed Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 The problem is if you compare a lot of teams with us, we play it back to the keeper for clearances far too often. It was most highlighted to me in the two Arsenal games. I'd say Given has to deal with as many 'clearence' backpasses in a game than Almunia (or Lehmann) probably have to deal with in a season. We just don't do him any favours. Thats because our players are really short on confidence so they keep taking the easiest option for the fear that they get disposessed while looking for a short pass option. I don't see many of our players being really hungry for the ball but it is slowly coming better. Good example yesterday... Emre, Duff and N'Zogbia were really driving forward with the ball instead of taking the easy options. Having written that the times we play backpass to keeper isn't really any excuse for Given's poor kicking. Making the backpass would be half-justified if our keeper would smartly distribute the ball but alas nearly all passes to Given end up with us losing possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Was Given injured yesterday? Just watched the highlights again, and didnt even move for the goal or the Downing freekick soon after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thommo78 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 You can also say that we are shite at closing down shots that are 20 yards out. Our midfield tend to defend the 18 yard line and with butt;s legs etc we are not the quickest at shutting the ball down. The Flamini goal was a prime example! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 i don't think he could've stopped the goal, although it seemed like the ball was in the air for ages.. i agree that maybe it's time to give Harper a chance again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 :angry: :angry: :doh: :doh: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Think it's time to sell tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest assyriantoon Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Given is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 "Injured" blessing in disguise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 It was a fucking deflection you mongs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 It was a fucking deflection you mongs Still should have saved it tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 It was a fucking deflection you mongs a very slight, very minor deflection. didnt exactly have a massivechange of direction, every premiership keeper should be quick footed enough to deal with something as innocuous and routine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Groin injury, tbh he is getting injured too much now, either use Harper as our number 1 or buy a new one because with Given as our number 1 we will never have consistancy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 How exactly are you going to deal with a deflection when you've already dived to make a save Ofcourse he shouldn't have dived but rather waited some time to see what happens... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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