Howaythelads Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Not often I get to say "I told you so" on here, but, "I told you so". Yes, you did. Interestingly they've conceded more goals than we have. I'm sure our problems are lack of creativity and lack of goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 The Gallas goal today was bad defending on a NUFC scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Interestingly they've conceded more goals than we have. Write a letter/email to Alan Hansen and Mark Lawrenson pointing out that fact. It will never sink in with them though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Not often I get to say "I told you so" on here, but, "I told you so". You've been pretty much spot on, got to admit. Still though, I reckon they'll be in the top four come the end of the season. Probably get pushed by Villa or Spurs (I've no idea how well, or bad, Spurs are even doing mind you) for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Not often I get to say "I told you so" on here, but, "I told you so". You've been pretty much spot on, got to admit. Still though, I reckon they'll be in the top four come the end of the season. Probably get pushed by Villa or Spurs (I've no idea how well, or bad, Spurs are even doing mind you) for it. Well, big surprise there? No matter how shite they play in start of the season, pretty much always top 4 is Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal in the end of the season. Maybe once in 3 years someone else can push between them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 i got it soooo right ............................and wrong said liverpool would be nowhere near challeging for the top but also said 4th place would be between liverpool,spurs and .....cough..erm us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 i said they'll win it simply because they strengthened by signing Bellamy! I guess he's not that good then, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Well, I was wrong. \o/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon55544 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Not often I get to say "I told you so" on here, but, "I told you so". Funny enough i was thinking that earlier because i think you were the only person saying Liverpool wouldnt do well, I honestly thought Liverpool had everything to push for the title but they seem average at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Top and bottom of it is, they're only a strike force better than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 And a manager. Which for me, is far more important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 And a manager. Which for me, is far more important. Wouldn't even go that far. If we had a set of strikers like Liverpool, we'd be at least on terms with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Come on, man. Glenn Roeder is terrible. I have no doubt Rafa would make our strike force look a hell of a lot better than Glenn's doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Benitez would also probably play Parker right-wing... I know what you mean though. I personally think Benitez is over-rated. Up against Flamini, Fabregas & Gilberto as a midfield central-trio, what does he do? Plays England's best midfielder out wide and puts Zenden up against them...genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Benitez would also probably play Parker right-wing... I know what you mean though. I personally think Benitez is over-rated. Up against Flamini, Fabregas & Gilberto as a midfield central-trio, what does he do? Plays England's best midfielder out wide and puts Zenden up against them...genius. However 'overated' you feel Benitez is, he has brought them more glory in his short stint that we could shake any sort of stick at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I sort of agree with Rafa being a bit over-rated, only slightly. Winning the CL was the best and worst thing that ever happened for him. It almost certainly won him many, many fans, but the demand is so high now. He struck it lucky with that, but I also think Jose did too. I think Mourinho would be doing much the same sort of job as Rafa if he wasn't swimming in the billions of his owner. Rafa does appear to be getting found out. He's still improving Liverpool. From 5th, to 3rd (was it?) and I'm fairly certain he'll get them at least fourth this year. If he's ever going to challenge for the title, he's going to have to sort something. I think he's pretty un-ambitious in his transfer policy, and in my opinion, it's not payed off. Teams take time to gel, regardless, and I'm certain they'll improve this year and again next year. He's building a team, and it's not easy when you have the likes of Chelsea and Man U, with their spending power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Without a doubt. But if Gerrard skies "that" goal against Olympiakos in the Champions League group stage in 2004, which would have happened 95 times out of 100, it would be an entirely different story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Without a doubt. But if Gerrard skies "that" goal against Olympiakos in the Champions League group stage in 2004, which would have happened 95 times out of 100, it would be an entirely different story. Can't live on ifs and buts though. Just about every team that's won the CL in the last ten years have been lucky in some way, shape or form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Let's forget about these last 10 posts or so and get back to saying how great I am for being spot on about Liverpool. :winking: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Knightrider Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Are people still questioning Benitez's ability as a manager? It is his first blip in charge you could say, in the short 3 years he's been at the club he has done a magnificent job, he's cut out every last aspect of Houllier almost and transformed the club's entire culture. If being in mid-table AFTER 13 GAMES OR SO or getting beaten off Arsenal in year THREE of an era that has already yeilded the Champions League, two consecutive top 5 finishes, a League Cup final and an FA Cup win not to mention numerous broken records, is a crisis or a sign of how poor or overrated Benitez is, **** me gently for the world had gone mad This is where Newcastle fall down but I don't think Liverpool will: In order to be successful on the pitch, off the pitch has to be spot on first and that takes a great deal of time and change. While Liverpool are struggling in the league their new scouting network are doing deals with a whole host of clubs and youngsters to bring in the next generation of top talent and their board are looking at outside investment and a new stadium, and so on and so on. All things Benitez has had a hand in or is advising on while he also gets to grips with his team on the pitch. If the two dovetail they will go on to even greater success. I'd gladly wait 5 years for just a sample of that type of professional set-up to come to fruition at Newcastle. Still, I wouldn't swap Roeder for him like, or our team for theirs... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Are people still questioning Benitez's ability as a manager? It is his first blip in charge you could say, in the short 3 years he's been at the club he has done a magnificent job, he's cut out every last aspect of Houllier almost and transformed the club's entire culture. If being in mid-table AFTER 13 GAMES OR SO or getting beaten off Arsenal in year THREE of an era that has already yeilded the Champions League, two consecutive top 5 finishes, a League Cup final and an FA Cup win not to mention numerous broken records, is a crisis or a sign of how poor or overrated Benitez is, **** me gently for the world had gone mad This is where Newcastle fall down but I don't think Liverpool will: In order to be successful on the pitch, off the pitch has to be spot on first and that takes a great deal of time and change. While Liverpool are struggling in the league their new scouting network are doing deals with a whole host of clubs and youngsters to bring in the next generation of top talent and their board are looking at outside investment and a new stadium, and so on and so on. All things Benitez has had a hand in or is advising on while he also gets to grips with his team on the pitch. If the two dovetail they will go on to even greater success. I'd gladly wait 5 years for just a sample of that type of professional set-up to come to fruition at Newcastle. Still, I wouldn't swap Roeder for him like, or our team for theirs... and he's playing gerrard wide right and zenden through the middle.........that would have him sacked at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 BTW manager's like Benitez build from the bottom up, he isn't even halfway there yet man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Let's forget about these last 10 posts or so and get back to saying how great I am for being spot on about Liverpool. :winking: Noted. bluebiggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Considering in 3 years nearly he's supposed to have turned Liverpool into a title challenger, 4 points from a possible 45 against Chelsea, Arsenal & Man Utd is appalling. First blip in charge? In his first season he was shocking in the Premiership. Granted he won the Champions League, but he had a helluva lot of luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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