Dokko Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. Hmm, I thought that Geremi was promising to begin with so all the more disappointing. Enrique, one for the future surely...?! Geremi had a good pre season, then it fell apart, hasn't done much since, its criminal to think he's our captain, i'd rather have Parker back. Enrique might be one for the future, but i reckon his future lies back in Spain and he can't wait to get back and end this miserable chapter of his life. Spanish players & NUFC do not mix, lets not do it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. Hmm, I thought that Geremi was promising to begin with so all the more disappointing. Enrique, one for the future surely...?! No, not one for the future - if he was, we have NO LEFT BACK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. Hmm, I thought that Geremi was promising to begin with so all the more disappointing. Enrique, one for the future surely...?! No, not one for the future - if he was, we have NO LEFT BACK. I understand you have your agenda and that is very clear from your signature However i must tell you that you are WRONG Cacapa as much a liability as Bramble Enrique a waste of money, can't wait to throw that one back at you next season Sir Alex wanted to keep Smith but couldnt guarantee him starting, so is Sir Alex suddenly a bad judge Viduka was Free, his premiership record warranted us going for him How do you know Barton will be a £6 million write off has Mort told you what he intends to do You sir are probably one of the fans who left after the 2nd goal still waiting for the 2nd coming of Keegan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. Hmm, I thought that Geremi was promising to begin with so all the more disappointing. Enrique, one for the future surely...?! No, not one for the future - if he was, we have NO LEFT BACK. I understand you have your agenda and that is very clear from your signature However i must tell you that you are WRONG Cacapa as much a liability as Bramble Enrique a waste of money, can't wait to throw that one back at you next season Sir Alex wanted to keep Smith but couldnt guarantee him starting, so is Sir Alex suddenly a bad judge Viduka was Free, his premiership record warranted us going for him How do you know Barton will be a £6 million write off has Mort told you what he intends to do You sir are probably one of the fans who left after the 2nd goal still waiting for the 2nd coming of Keegan. Erm,what the fuck are you talking about? I didn't make that original post. Oh, and while i'm still on - you know fuck all about what SAF wanted, you have just read something in the press, and believed it, well done. Mate, i GO to the games, i WATCH the players - and Smith is shite. As for Viduka, he's fat and lazy, like WE USED TO CALL HIM FOR WHEN HE WAS AT THE BEASTS. Oh, and Cacapa has been poor. He got away with some very bad errors last night, it could have been aother Portsmouth for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/b/br/brokenarts/435178_razor_blade.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/b/br/brokenarts/435178_razor_blade.jpg Yeah, i thought he was pretty sharp too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. Hmm, I thought that Geremi was promising to begin with so all the more disappointing. Enrique, one for the future surely...?! No, not one for the future - if he was, we have NO LEFT BACK. I understand you have your agenda and that is very clear from your signature However i must tell you that you are WRONG Cacapa as much a liability as Bramble Enrique a waste of money, can't wait to throw that one back at you next season Sir Alex wanted to keep Smith but couldnt guarantee him starting, so is Sir Alex suddenly a bad judge Viduka was Free, his premiership record warranted us going for him How do you know Barton will be a £6 million write off has Mort told you what he intends to do You sir are probably one of the fans who left after the 2nd goal still waiting for the 2nd coming of Keegan. Erm,what the f*** are you talking about? I didn't make that original post. Oh, and while i'm still on - you know f*** all about what SAF wanted, you have just read something in the press, and believed it, well done. Mate, i GO to the games, i WATCH the players - and Smith is s****. As for Viduka, he's fat and lazy, like WE USED TO CALL HIM FOR WHEN HE WAS AT THE BEASTS. Oh, and Cacapa has been poor. He got away with some very bad errors last night, it could have been aother Portsmouth for him. No but i can imagine you nodding your head vigorously in appreciation of a fellow doom monger SAF left it up to Smith he is quoted United boss Fergie said: “Alan’s been a fantastic character in the dressing room and a very important player for us since he came here. “I was very sad to see him go in many ways. “There are few characters as big as him in this country at the moment and it was a very difficult one for us to decide, but his desire for first team football was too strong''. I can remember a few threads about Viduka especially during the UEFA cup run the Smogs had with people practically begging him to come. Cacapa made one error last night where he had to rely on Faye to help him out. Didnt have the best game i agree, not the answer, but on a free, is a damn sight more reliable than Bramble ever was! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. Hmm, I thought that Geremi was promising to begin with so all the more disappointing. Enrique, one for the future surely...?! No, not one for the future - if he was, we have NO LEFT BACK. I understand you have your agenda and that is very clear from your signature However i must tell you that you are WRONG Cacapa as much a liability as Bramble Enrique a waste of money, can't wait to throw that one back at you next season Sir Alex wanted to keep Smith but couldnt guarantee him starting, so is Sir Alex suddenly a bad judge Viduka was Free, his premiership record warranted us going for him How do you know Barton will be a £6 million write off has Mort told you what he intends to do You sir are probably one of the fans who left after the 2nd goal still waiting for the 2nd coming of Keegan. Erm,what the f*** are you talking about? I didn't make that original post. Oh, and while i'm still on - you know f*** all about what SAF wanted, you have just read something in the press, and believed it, well done. Mate, i GO to the games, i WATCH the players - and Smith is s****. As for Viduka, he's fat and lazy, like WE USED TO CALL HIM FOR WHEN HE WAS AT THE BEASTS. Oh, and Cacapa has been poor. He got away with some very bad errors last night, it could have been aother Portsmouth for him. No but i can imagine you nodding your head vigorously in appreciation of a fellow doom monger SAF left it up to Smith he is quoted United boss Fergie said: Alans been a fantastic character in the dressing room and a very important player for us since he came here. I was very sad to see him go in many ways. There are few characters as big as him in this country at the moment and it was a very difficult one for us to decide, but his desire for first team football was too strong''. I can remember a few threads about Viduka especially during the UEFA cup run the Smogs had with people practically begging him to come. Cacapa made one error last night where he had to rely on Faye to help him out. Didnt have the best game i agree, not the answer, but on a free, is a damn sight more reliable than Bramble ever was! I. Didn't. Mention. Bramble. Although comparing Cacapa against the worst defender we've had for a while is genius. Cacapa made 3 or 4 bad ricks last night, and got lucky. He could have had his arse handed to him liek he did by Portsmouth. And well done for believing some fucking stupid 'quote'. No-one ever makes things up for the press, do they? Jesus wept. He isn't worth first team football, he's proven that. Unless you think that he needs time to settle into the premiership of course, or is one for the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/b/br/brokenarts/435178_razor_blade.jpg Really you have nothing to say on the matter, that's the problem, there's nothing there you can really argue with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/b/br/brokenarts/435178_razor_blade.jpg Yeah, i thought he was pretty sharp too. TT doesnt go to games though, so you have to discount his opinion NM. Barton hasnt worked out but it wasnt a 'bad' signing at the time, made a lot of sense. Writing off Enrique is the act of a mong, especially when you see how comfortable he is on the ball. Has a lot of potential. Only had 10 starts and rightly so. Cacapa has plenty of ability and is highly rated by Lyon supporters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/b/br/brokenarts/435178_razor_blade.jpg Really you have nothing to say on the matter, that's the problem, there's nothing there you can really argue with. Oh I could, but it seems you're so far down the manic depressive stage, you've convinced yourself everything and everyone connected with Newcastle United is not good enough or not going to come good. Will Ashley still be looking to sell up if things don't turn sooner, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/b/br/brokenarts/435178_razor_blade.jpg Really you have nothing to say on the matter, that's the problem, there's nothing there you can really argue with. Oh I could, but it seems you're so far down the manic depressive stage, you've convinced yourself everything and everyone connected with Newcastle United is not good enough or not going to come good. Will Ashley still be looking to sell up if things don't turn sooner, eh? Are you saying that its not a possibility he might just decide its not worth it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/b/br/brokenarts/435178_razor_blade.jpg Really you have nothing to say on the matter, that's the problem, there's nothing there you can really argue with. Oh I could, but it seems you're so far down the manic depressive stage, you've convinced yourself everything and everyone connected with Newcastle United is not good enough or not going to come good. Will Ashley still be looking to sell up if things don't turn sooner, eh? Are you saying that its not a possibility he might just decide its not worth it? Now I have nothing to say. Speechless tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/b/br/brokenarts/435178_razor_blade.jpg Really you have nothing to say on the matter, that's the problem, there's nothing there you can really argue with. Oh I could, but it seems you're so far down the manic depressive stage, you've convinced yourself everything and everyone connected with Newcastle United is not good enough or not going to come good. Will Ashley still be looking to sell up if things don't turn sooner, eh? Are you saying that its not a possibility he might just decide its not worth it? Now I have nothing to say. Speechless tbh. First time in a while too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Viduka is not worth his wages, dread to think how much we paid him to actually sign on. Barton is a £6m write off. Cacapa is a much a liability as any defender we've had over the last 5 years. Rozenhal is average at best, not good enough for us. Geremi was free for a reason. Smith would of been good for free, but for £6m i feel like crying. Enrique never gets used and so is another £6m waste of money, this one has a touch of the Luque's about it. Faye - Good player, worth the money shame about the injuries. Beye - His best signing, settling in nicely. To think Beye & Feye nearly didn't go through, it was only at the last minute. http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/b/br/brokenarts/435178_razor_blade.jpg Really you have nothing to say on the matter, that's the problem, there's nothing there you can really argue with. Oh I could, but it seems you're so far down the manic depressive stage, you've convinced yourself everything and everyone connected with Newcastle United is not good enough or not going to come good. Will Ashley still be looking to sell up if things don't turn sooner, eh? Are you saying that its not a possibility he might just decide its not worth it? Now I have nothing to say. Speechless tbh. First time in a while too. So am good for something then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 NM never tells his opinion anymore he just tries to come across as a soopa fan by being negative. He knows he's not giving his own opinion so please dont humour him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 back page of the times claims we are sticking by him. and rightly so imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest microbar Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 SACK HIM SACK HIM SACK HIM Its just a matter of time now Hope stoke stuff us and then the fat twat will have to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 SACK HIM SACK HIM SACK HIM Its just a matter of time now Hope stoke stuff us and then the fat t*** will have to go. you're sacked, actually, we dont need fans like you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ridzuan Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Looking at our current state,its obvious that he should get the sack,well at least that is the tradition at this club.But at this point of the season,sacking him would be useless,even if we get a new manager instead of a caretaker.Our situation is similar to Pakistan political situation.Sam Allardyce is like their President Musharraf,both are incompetent and not doing a good job but at the moment,sticking to them is the only best solution for now.I know Pakistan is going to have an election soon so we should expect some changes,as for Big Sam,lets wait till the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 SACK HIM SACK HIM SACK HIM Its just a matter of time now Hope stoke stuff us and then the fat t*** will have to go. Yeah, because the 1-5 home defeat by Birmingham in the same competition last season meant the end of Roeder, didn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 Butt: Sam Has to Stay http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article647276.ece NICKY BUTT has played under four Newcastle bosses in nearly four years — and has had enough. The ex-England midfielder is sick of change on Tyneside. When he looks for an example of stability, Butt has only to cast his eye at former club Manchester United. He spent 11 glorious years at Old Trafford under the guidance of just one man — Alex Ferguson. Yes, Newcastle fans, one. And look where it has got them. Fast forward to his time with the Geordies. Since arriving in July 2004, Butt has seen Bobby Robson, Graeme Souness and Glenn Roeder come and go before Sam Allardyce’s arrival. Now, with Big Sam’s future hanging by a thread and a monumental FA Cup third-round trip to Stoke looming on Sunday, Butt has called on owner Mike Ashley to think long and hard about whether it is wise to make the current manager another St James’ Park casualty. He said: “Everybody knows that managers get rated by their results. But things will never improve unless he’s given time. This club, of all clubs, can show you that. I’ve been here for 3½ years now and have had four managers. “Sooner or later, someone has to say, ‘This is the manager we’re going to stand by in good times and bad’, and, hopefully, get the rewards at the end of it. “If you look at all the big teams, like Manchester United and Arsenal, and other teams doing well, like Everton, they are the clubs that have stood by their managers for a long time. If we do that, I’m sure we’ll get it right.” Butt has a big point. It would be crazy to sack Allardyce after just seven months in charge. The Toon would be straight back to square one. Any manager needs time to get their message across — and the fact it would cost almost £50million to get rid of Allardyce and his huge backroom staff will certainly play on an astute business mind like Ashley’s. There is another problem, too. Ashley and chairman Chris Mort are not football people. Ashley sells sportswear, Mort is a lawyer. The unique world of Premier League football is brand, spanking new to them. Are they qualified to make footballing decisions about a man who has played and bossed at all levels in a career spanning almost 30 years? At least they have the excuse that his appointment was Freddy Shepherd’s last act at Newcastle. They will hear grumblings of discontent from the changing room. And if they are going on the feelings of the fans, Big Sam looks doomed. Message boards remain swamped with anti-Allardyce views over perceived poor signings, poor football and poor performances. Then there is Joey Barton. What must Ashley think when a key midfielder costing £5.8m spends the festive period behind bars? The pressure is now well and truly on and the Potteries crunch is the biggest game of Allardyce’s rollercoaster reign so far. Crashing out on live TV will be embarrassing for everyone concerned. The Toon’s season will be over. And so could Big Sam’s time at the Toon. Yet Butt added: “These are tough times at the moment but all of us in the dressing room just have to stand up and be counted. “We’re all judged on results. But two or three weeks ago, we were getting beat and playing c**p as well. Then the eyebrows do raise. “Lately, there have been signs we are improving. Had we taken one of our chances when we lost 2-0 against Manchester City on Wednesday, it could have been a different story. We didn’t and have to kick on. “A couple of new faces would help. I’m sure the manager is looking for quality players to come in.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 SACK HIM SACK HIM SACK HIM Its just a matter of time now Hope stoke stuff us and then the fat t*** will have to go. Yeah, because the 1-5 home defeat by Birmingham in the same competition last season meant the end of Roeder, didn't it? I might be wrong, but that night we had the likes of Huntington in the side, and Lua-Lua on the bench. We were missing about 10 players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted January 4, 2008 Share Posted January 4, 2008 SACK HIM SACK HIM SACK HIM Its just a matter of time now Hope stoke stuff us and then the fat t*** will have to go. Yeah, because the 1-5 home defeat by Birmingham in the same competition last season meant the end of Roeder, didn't it? I might be wrong, but that night we had the likes of Huntington in the side, and Lua-Lua on the bench. We were missing about 10 players. Thats sounds like a Roeder excuse right there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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