Benwell Lad Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 According to the popular (and not so popular) press it seems everyone on Tyneside is clamouring for him. Funny but most people I speak to are very wary about him getting involved. Keegan was not my first choice, but hell I'm warming to it - the best ever years of being a Newcastle supporter was when KK was around - we always loved him and this morning a lot of us feel 20 years younger. But hold on - this HAS to be Keegan's gig if it's going to work. Bringing in Shearer would put enormous pressure on him and many think he back stabbed a previous Newcastle boss in order to preserve his own status. Also in the new Ashley era would he want someone who was ( is ) so close to Shepherd ? There was little love lost during the takeover. If Shearer does come I'll support him too, but I would urge the powers that be to think carefully if the fans really do want him, or whether it's just Sky and the tabloids telling us the fans want him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teepee Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 i think that shearer would be absolutely perfect as his assistant. and i think he could learn a lot as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think from what we heard from Shearer he respects KK and would not pose a threat to him as number two. Based on that I would love him to come in... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SpinTheBlackCircle Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Do we really want Shearer ? YES YES YES YES Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think from what we heard from Shearer he respects KK and would not pose a threat to him as number two. Based on that I would love him to come in... Although he wasn't my first choice I'd have been happier with Shearer as a boss than a No.2, something about him as no.2 just makes me feel very uncomfortable. Look at the best assistants - they are generally unselfish people who like to work quietly behind the scenes and don't have big egos. That is not Shearer. Shearer needs to be the main man and would probably court more (unwanted) media attention than the boss. Nigel Pearson and Derek Fazackerly are good examples of the personality required to be a no.2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think it will be a bit of a problem to have two big names in one side, if we can get him as a Coach or as a low profile job it will be good, but to have him as Keegans Number two might create some personalty clash in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guinness Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think Shearer would be an ideal number two is this scenario, he's a powerful figure who along with Keegan would command the respect of the players. It would also allow him to pick up some management experience first hand. I'd imagine with the amount of football Shearer watches he's aware of what the club needs which could also be of benefit to KK who by his own admission has not taken in much football since 2005. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I think it would be excellent with Shearer as Keegans nr 2. Then Shearer can take over after Keeegan and we are building som continuity for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon55544 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Yea i'd love to see Shearer learn his trade under KK. It would also help to attract players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarralad Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Lets hope he gets unvieled on friday afternoon alongside keegan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Chris Coleman is being touted as assistant. TBH that clearly a better appointment than Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I don't think it would be a good idea to have him as a No.2 As has been mentioned he is not a typical No.2 type person as he is generally a selfish person, look at the way he was courting himself for the managers job. If anything I think it would be a problem as can you imagine the amount of rumours about him only being their to learn and eventually Keegan will be out on his arse with Shearer in his seat before it's even gone cold. IMO he should take up management on a lower level before we give him his first chance, that way if he's good enough then great next time we're looking then great approach him and see what happens from there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Chris Coleman is being touted as assistant. TBH that clearly a better appointment than Shearer. Yeah. We've had one dream appointment to get everyone excited. The next one should be a sensible one to temper the mood, get serious and get down to business.. The press circus surrounding Shearer would be unbearable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Not bothered really, I don't think it'll have much bearing on our sucess under KK - long term though he's going to be the big cheese one day and as I don't think he's going to have a stab at the lower leagues first he might as well get some experience under Kev. Also hopefully it will mean our next managerial appointment will be a smooth transition of power with king Kev abdicating and Al taking the reigns without the usual clusterfuck circus playing havoc on everyone's blood pressure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Chris Coleman is being touted as assistant. TBH that clearly a better appointment than Shearer. No continuity plan though. Would you want Coleman to take over from Keegan? The club have made it so that there's nowhere o go if Keegan leaves, so we need to get an assistant in place who can take over. Get Shearer in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Chris Coleman is being touted as assistant. TBH that clearly a better appointment than Shearer. No continuity plan though. Would you want Coleman to take over from Keegan? The club have made it so that there's nowhere o go if Keegan leaves, so we need to get an assistant in place who can take over. Get Shearer in! No, but i want whats best for the club now, not in 3 years or so. KK & AS are too similar, and i pick up vibes that the pair aren't exactly best friends which worries me, i think Shearer could try n be a snide at some point, rock the boat and try to get in there early. Coleman wouldn't do that, and Coleman has recent EPL experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Not bothered really This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Chris Coleman is being touted as assistant. TBH that clearly a better appointment than Shearer. No continuity plan though. Would you want Coleman to take over from Keegan? The club have made it so that there's nowhere o go if Keegan leaves, so we need to get an assistant in place who can take over. Get Shearer in! No, but i want whats best for the club now, not in 3 years or so. KK & AS are too similar, and i pick up vibes that the pair aren't exactly best friends which worries me, i think Shearer could try n be a snide at some point, rock the boat and try to get in there early. Coleman wouldn't do that, and Coleman has recent EPL experience. Know Coleman well do you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Chris Coleman is being touted as assistant. TBH that clearly a better appointment than Shearer. No continuity plan though. Would you want Coleman to take over from Keegan? The club have made it so that there's nowhere o go if Keegan leaves, so we need to get an assistant in place who can take over. Get Shearer in! No, but i want whats best for the club now, not in 3 years or so. KK & AS are too similar, and i pick up vibes that the pair aren't exactly best friends which worries me, i think Shearer could try n be a snide at some point, rock the boat and try to get in there early. Coleman wouldn't do that, and Coleman has recent EPL experience. Know Coleman well do you? You trying to say Coleman would try to undermine KK and unsettle his position so he could get the toon job? mackems.gif Jesus Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sondre Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 think we should do something like sir alex is doing with solskjaer, put him as coach for the strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dev Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Honestly I'd think he would be better off coaching youth/strikers for a while. He has no experience so I think there would be better assistant manager candidates out there. Really though the only one he could benefit in our squad is probably Martins, there's not a lot he could teach dooks or Owen (unless he's a fitness guru as well) and Shola and Smith are probably beyond help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie418 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Shearer the Black Widow? http://www.806fishworks.com/sitebuilder/images/black_widows-330x251.png not sure if this has been posted: Alan Shearer is the Winona Ryder of Newcastle United. She used to be known as the "Black Widow" due to her habit of picking up rock singers, having a relationship with them, and then discarding them, seemingly destroying their careers in the process. Shearer's not that bad. He just picked the one football club - one he professes to love - and set about turning it into an adjunct of his ego. He never seems particularly concerned about what he could do for the club, unless "friends" divulging to supine journalists the circumstances under which he'd be prepared to manage the club actually counts as helping the Magpies. I'm not sure it does. Now, it's probably true that not everything that has gone wrong at St James' Park in the past decade has been Shearer's fault. Just most of it. But what can one expect from a man who has spent so much of his career letting the world know that he is bigger than any team he plays for - even the national side. Remember when Graham Kelly said Shearer had threatened to withdraw from the England World Cup squad if the FA dared to punish him for the unfortunate and accidental contact his boot made with the head of the hapless Neil Lennon in April 1998?. There were plenty who disliked Shearer long before he became the anointed one of Tyneside. At Blackburn he picked up a reputation for being a nasty, niggly player; one who was happy to bend the rules, harangue referees and offer opponents the benefit of the sharper parts of his anatomy. It's said that fans only hate opponents with ability. That's not true; we hate opponents who think they're above the rules, too. That's why people started to turn against Shearer. But we didn't see how unhealthy his presence could be until August 1999, when Ruud Gullit was sacked as Newcastle manager after leaving Shearer out of the starting line-up for the home game against Sunderland. History records that the Magpies lost 2-1 and Shearer was regarded as having forced Gullit out. History less often records that Newcastle were 1-0 up at half-time and the scores were level when Shearer came on. As Gullit justifiably observed: "When we were 1-0 up no one complained. Then we put him on in the second half and lost. What conclusions do you draw from that?" Bobby Robson followed Gullit and by the end of 2000 the Sunday Mirror was reporting his intentions. In a piece published on December 31 - in which Shearer was quoted, so it probably wasn't wild speculation - the paper noted that he would "take over from Robson in the summer of 2002". He didn't, of course. Robson wasn't going anywhere, but this was the first of the many false starts to Shearer's managerial career, and it set the pattern to come: the assumption that whatever Big Al wanted, Big Al would get. Some thought it might finally happen in early 2004, when Robson left Shearer out of Newcastle's Uefa Cup game against Valarenga. Shearer told the world he was "angry, disappointed and very surprised" to be left out. And the world heard the sound of knives sharpening. They weren't deployed on that occasion, but there was plenty of evidence that Shearer was exerting an unhealthy level of influence during Robson's reign - not least in the manager's apparent acceptance that the only way for Newcastle to play was in whatever fashion suited Shearer. Remember, by this point Shearer was shorn of his pace and wasn't the finisher of his prime, which meant Newcastle had to adjust their game to compensate for his weaknesses. It's a tribute to Robson's skills that he was able to construct the only worthwhile Newcastle team since Kevin Keegan was boss given those constraints. It's also arguable, though, that having to build his team around Shearer prevented Robson from rebuilding, at a time of strength, in a fashion that would have provided Newcastle with a base for the future. Newcastle fell apart when Shearer retired not because he was gone, but because they had already been fatally weakened on the pitch by the need to accommodate him. And now this. After months of febrile speculation about how much Shearer wanted the Newcastle job - not his fault, but he could probably have stopped those "friends" from telling the press about his ambitions - Sam Allardyce finally vacated the seat, the great hero of the Geordie Nation having seen him off as well. Surely, at last, Shearer would have the courage of his convictions and make his case. But still, no official comment from the great man; just the mutterings about how he's nobody's No2 (despite still not having completed his Uefa Pro Licence, theoretically necessary for all Premier League managers, more than 18 months after retiring), except possibly Keegan's. I wouldn't give a toss about all this were Shearer open about his ambitions. But he's not, is he? His behaviour over the course of this season has been, frankly, cowardly and cruel. He allowed Sam Allardyce to be hung out to dry in his name, without ever saying a word about his own intentions or feelings. He's displayed breathtaking arrogance in his apparent belief that he has nothing to learn from any more experienced managers. And his failure to discuss any of this in any meaningful way has displayed incredible contempt for his employer, the BBC, and Newcastle's fans. And still he is fawned over. It's baffling beyond belief. Alan Shearer was a great, great footballer. If only he were as much of a man. http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/01/16/black_widow_shearer_answerable.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Aye, it has been posted. If Shearer comes in, I think that'll be it for me, I'll explode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alby Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I want him personally. But only if KK is 100% comfortable with this arrangement......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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