Parky Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I think spending will be unprecedented this summer, going on what Ashley and Kelmsey has said (give me a chance with a window) and (nufc are in for exciting times) i'd say we are in for a good summer, i dont even care about getting my hopes dashed im so sure of it. Wasn't Mort recently quoted (a few weeks back) as saying he wants to spend as money comes in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Well I guess if you sack a manager just as the window begins you're basically f****** up that window. Ah well. Rather that than keep the manager and f**k up the next few seasons. Mick it was clear from the fallout they never took to SA and MA for some time wasn't happy with the football being offerred. Why not sack him earlier or wait till the summer? Don't come at me with your ridiculous melodrama my point has plenty of merit. earlier would never have been early enough. all they could have done would be to get rid a week or two earlier which would have been neither here nor there. to sack him in the summer could have seen us relegated and the most vicious home crowds since i've been going. there was never going to be a "right time" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I think spending will be unprecedented this summer, going on what Ashley and Kelmsey has said (give me a chance with a window) and (nufc are in for exciting times) i'd say we are in for a good summer, i dont even care about getting my hopes dashed im so sure of it. Wasn't Mort recently quoted (a few weeks back) as saying he wants to spend as money comes in? Mort says alot of things and i dont like many of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I think spending will be unprecedented this summer, going on what Ashley and Kelmsey has said (give me a chance with a window) and (nufc are in for exciting times) i'd say we are in for a good summer, i dont even care about getting my hopes dashed im so sure of it. Wasn't Mort recently quoted (a few weeks back) as saying he wants to spend as money comes in? probably...d'you expect him to say we are going on an unprecedented spending spree so everyone jack your prices up like when chelsea come a calling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I think spending will be unprecedented this summer, going on what Ashley and Kelmsey has said (give me a chance with a window) and (nufc are in for exciting times) i'd say we are in for a good summer, i dont even care about getting my hopes dashed im so sure of it. Wasn't Mort recently quoted (a few weeks back) as saying he wants to spend as money comes in? sky money and season ticket sales would offer a fair chunk even if the ashley isnt willing to put more of his own money in + current players moving on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 we may be ambitious in our targets but i dont think we are a club able to bring in world class players dont think KK has pulling power The "Pulling power" argument was used against Roeder and Souness and they got big name signings e.g. Owen, Duff, Martins, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I think spending will be unprecedented this summer, going on what Ashley and Kelmsey has said (give me a chance with a window) and (nufc are in for exciting times) i'd say we are in for a good summer, i dont even care about getting my hopes dashed im so sure of it. Wasn't Mort recently quoted (a few weeks back) as saying he wants to spend as money comes in? Mort says alot of things and i dont like many of them You say a lot of things and I don't like much of what you've got to say, in fact I think you're possibly the worst poster on the board with your unthought out replies, would it really be that much of a struggle to elaborate now and again on what you think rather than posting single figure words in posts? Perhaps you could give a few examples of things that Mort has said that you don't like and disagree with? Don't feel under pressure to have to make a decent contribution to the board though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 we may be ambitious in our targets but i dont think we are a club able to bring in world class players dont think KK has pulling power The "Pulling power" argument was used against Roeder and Souness and they got big name signings e.g. Owen, Duff, Martins, etc. for most players the money usually has the final say those players who come for footballing reasons i.e to play at the highest level, battle for trophies or be part of a world beating side then the top 4 takes them in any league. The scraps and rare finds really are any ones fair game and we have as much chance as the everton's, man city's and villa's of this world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 we may be ambitious in our targets but i dont think we are a club able to bring in world class players dont think KK has pulling power The "Pulling power" argument was used against Roeder and Souness and they got big name signings e.g. Owen, Duff, Martins, etc. Thats when we thre silly money about which i dont expect to happen and quite rightly. Plus these players needed to move were as the players who we need this summer will be wanted by clubs in europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Erich von Manstein Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 we may be ambitious in our targets but i dont think we are a club able to bring in world class players dont think KK has pulling power The "Pulling power" argument was used against Roeder and Souness and they got big name signings e.g. Owen, Duff, Martins, etc. Shepherd signed Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I think spending will be unprecedented this summer, going on what Ashley and Kelmsey has said (give me a chance with a window) and (nufc are in for exciting times) i'd say we are in for a good summer, i dont even care about getting my hopes dashed im so sure of it. Wasn't Mort recently quoted (a few weeks back) as saying he wants to spend as money comes in? Mort says alot of things and i dont like many of them You say a lot of things and I don't like much of what you've got to say, in fact I think you're possibly the worst poster on the board with your unthought out replies, would it really be that much of a struggle to elaborate now and again on what you think rather than posting single figure words in posts? Perhaps you could give a few examples of things that Mort has said that you don't like and disagree with? Don't feel under pressure to have to make a decent contribution to the board though. A few things he has said his list of requirements for a manager whch Keegan didnt fulfill dont get me wrong i will support him says Sam has 100% backing then sacks him with no back up plan gets wise in without keegan knowing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 we may be ambitious in our targets but i dont think we are a club able to bring in world class players dont think KK has pulling power The "Pulling power" argument was used against Roeder and Souness and they got big name signings e.g. Owen, Duff, Martins, etc. Thats when we thre silly money about which i dont expect to happen and quite rightly. Plus these players needed to move were as the players who we need this summer will be wanted by clubs in europe The bigger clubs sometimes already have a big enough squad to not need to buy anyone usually the likes of man united, arsenal, barcelona etc all buy one or two top quality players. Not every one available can go to a club in europe some fall out with a manager or a board and request a move. Yes silly money may be needed but sometimes its just a big gamble you need to make on a player as to wether they will suit the prem or not. I for one am not in the camp expecting deco, rooney, ronaldo etc to walk in the door over the summer but there will be quality out there that will improve the current squad and when you are there to do a task over the long term that is what is needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 we may be ambitious in our targets but i dont think we are a club able to bring in world class players dont think KK has pulling power The "Pulling power" argument was used against Roeder and Souness and they got big name signings e.g. Owen, Duff, Martins, etc. Shepherd signed Owen. think the massive signing on fee and the 100k plus a week had a lot to do with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 we may be ambitious in our targets but i dont think we are a club able to bring in world class players dont think KK has pulling power The "Pulling power" argument was used against Roeder and Souness and they got big name signings e.g. Owen, Duff, Martins, etc. Thats when we thre silly money about which i dont expect to happen and quite rightly. Plus these players needed to move were as the players who we need this summer will be wanted by clubs in europe The bigger clubs sometimes already have a big enough squad to not need to buy anyone usually the likes of man united, arsenal, barcelona etc all buy one or two top quality players. Not every one available can go to a club in europe some fall out with a manager or a board and request a move. Yes silly money may be needed but sometimes its just a big gamble you need to make on a player as to wether they will suit the prem or not. I for one am not in the camp expecting deco, rooney, ronaldo etc to walk in the door over the summer but there will be quality out there that will improve the current squad and when you are there to do a task over the long term that is what is needed. I expect signings that will be able to get us into Europe e.g. like Villa have done then we can build on the quality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I expect signings that will be able to get us into Europe e.g. like Villa have done then we can build on the quality Depending on your view we are either 5/6 players away from a top 6 side or 1/2 I for one am some where in the middle and think 3/4 would do it basically its catch 22 you need to have a good squad depth to survive a season and finish well due to inevitable suspensions, injuries, international call ups etc and we dont seem to have that in any great abundance then you need to weigh up making totally changes i.e complete new back 4 which can be too much for a side to adjust to. I would rather make steady progress than try and buy our way up the table lets face it we have tried and looked where it got us . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I expect signings that will be able to get us into Europe e.g. like Villa have done then we can build on the quality Depending on your view we are either 5/6 players away from a top 6 side or 1/2 I for one am some where in the middle and think 3/4 would do it basically its catch 22 you need to have a good squad depth to survive a season and finish well due to inevitable suspensions, injuries, international call ups etc and we dont seem to have that in any great abundance then you need to weigh up making totally changes i.e complete new back 4 which can be too much for a side to adjust to. I would rather make steady progress than try and buy our way up the table lets face it we have tried and looked where it got us . Depends on who we were buying e.g. proven premiership players likes of Berbatov Bentley SWP spending money on these would work whereas in the past we have spent it on unproven foreigners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I think spending will be unprecedented this summer, going on what Ashley and Kelmsey has said (give me a chance with a window) and (nufc are in for exciting times) i'd say we are in for a good summer, i dont even care about getting my hopes dashed im so sure of it. Wasn't Mort recently quoted (a few weeks back) as saying he wants to spend as money comes in? Not heard this to be fair, my sig was a quote from keegan which would undermine that view. I also imiagine they want to keep there kitty quiet so prices dont rise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I think spending will be unprecedented this summer, going on what Ashley and Kelmsey has said (give me a chance with a window) and (nufc are in for exciting times) i'd say we are in for a good summer, i dont even care about getting my hopes dashed im so sure of it. Wasn't Mort recently quoted (a few weeks back) as saying he wants to spend as money comes in? Not heard this to be fair, my sig was a quote from keegan which would undermine that view. I also imiagine they want to keep there kitty quiet so prices dont rise. Tbf SA gave the same impression, granted KK might have more pull in the boardroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I expect signings that will be able to get us into Europe e.g. like Villa have done then we can build on the quality Depending on your view we are either 5/6 players away from a top 6 side or 1/2 I for one am some where in the middle and think 3/4 would do it basically its catch 22 you need to have a good squad depth to survive a season and finish well due to inevitable suspensions, injuries, international call ups etc and we dont seem to have that in any great abundance then you need to weigh up making totally changes i.e complete new back 4 which can be too much for a side to adjust to. I would rather make steady progress than try and buy our way up the table lets face it we have tried and looked where it got us . Depends on who we were buying e.g. proven premiership players likes of Berbatov Bentley SWP spending money on these would work whereas in the past we have spent it on unproven foreigners I can see the point but it goes back to me saying earlier that the players you mention are 15-30M each and no doubt Kev will not have limitless funds I would rather we didnt run the risk of getting only one or two of these blowing the transfer kitty and rely in them to carry the team. This would also be against the basic need to have strength and depth in the squad which can kill a season once your "big names" are out of the picture. I agree that looking to europe doesnt always bring results and we have had to pay hefty fee;s in the past when there has been a prem player of equal value which could pose less risk. Even prem players though can be a gamble they can fail to adapt to the squad they play with and they can be unsettled in the region which all effects their playing so no player is risk free but its even worse if your gambling so much money of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 we may be ambitious in our targets but i dont think we are a club able to bring in world class players dont think KK has pulling power What he gets up to in his spare time doesn't reflect on how he manages the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 we may be ambitious in our targets but i dont think we are a club able to bring in world class players dont think KK has pulling power What he gets up to in his spare time doesn't reflect on how he manages the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wor jackie Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I currently am incredibly disappointed. The whole Woodgate saga has shown how far we have fallen as a club and we need a very expensive summer to address this. With a billionaire in charge we should rightly expect a Chelsea-esque transformation. I doubt it will come though. We need to really buy some top of the range players because the stadium, finance, fanbase, core of players, training facilities and possibly manager are all there in place. 5/6 players can make us Champions League challengers (for qualification, not the trophy), but as I say Mike has to reach into his pocket and deeply! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I currently am incredibly disappointed. The whole Woodgate saga has shown how far we have fallen as a club and we need a very expensive summer to address this. With a billionaire in charge we should rightly expect a Chelsea-esque transformation. I doubt it will come though. We need to really buy some top of the range players because the stadium, finance, fanbase, core of players, training facilities and possibly manager are all there in place. 5/6 players can make us Champions League challengers (for qualification, not the trophy), but as I say Mike has to reach into his pocket and deeply! you sound like timmy the spoilt kid from viz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I currently am incredibly disappointed. The whole Woodgate saga has shown how far we have fallen as a club and we need a very expensive summer to address this. With a billionaire in charge we should rightly expect a Chelsea-esque transformation. I doubt it will come though. We need to really buy some top of the range players because the stadium, finance, fanbase, core of players, training facilities and possibly manager are all there in place. 5/6 players can make us Champions League challengers (for qualification, not the trophy), but as I say Mike has to reach into his pocket and deeply! It's a bit different now that half the league have billionaire owners, not to mention a fair few foreign clubs who have more money than ever before as well. Chelsea were the first, it's a completely different ball game now. I don't disagree that we need some high quality players, but I think it's asking a lot to get players of world-class reputation in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guinness Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I'm obviously hoping for big things, part of me is still hoping for something in this window even though I've resigned myself to the fact we're getting no one. However I won't be getting my hopes up, I think the media have hyped things up a hell of a lot. I just hope we don't have to sell to buy seeing as I can't see us getting anything for expendable players such as Smith, Barton, Rozehnal etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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