1878 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Juan Vargas is a good left back that plays for Catania who just avoided relegation on the last day of the season. My amazing foreign language skills tell me that you, Fiorentina and Inter want him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Real Madrid want Vargas too .. I've seen him play some very good games. Same age as Enrique so would be a strange player to pay a lot of money for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Nolberto East Wind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Cmon wor Steep Slopes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Keegan Crouch Dunne Riise Kapo SWP Henry Vetere Gomis Turan Moreno Nelson Sessegnon Amorebieta In fairness, all the Keegan ones are proven Premiership quality. The Vetere ones are names which may not work in this league. I'd go with all the names under the Keegan list. Keegan would want Crouch for £15m (what they want for him), Riise who is beyond shite, SWP who has done nothing in two years & Kapo who was in and out of a relegated Birmingham side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Screw PL experience. I think it's a load of bullshit. If a player is good, he will make it no matter where he plays as long as he fits in with his teammates. Choosing PL experience instead of potentially better players is a route I really don't like. I think it's a cowards way. It's safe, you know what you get (even though that might not be good enough), and you pay way over the odds. Let's get some exciting players in. Some may not make it, but there will be players who do, and that is worth much more than all of the average Joe's that we call Crouch, Kapo, Riise etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 How proven are they. Liverpool want rid of Crouch, and for some reason they want MORE than they paid for him(ridiculous if you ask me). Riise is the definition of cast off. SWP is another squad player who isn't really wanted. And Kapo didn't set the world alight at Brum. Much better to sign up and comers that are looking to prove themselves in the league if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Screw PL experience. I think it's a load of bullshit. If a player is good, he will make it no matter where he plays as long as he fits in with his teammates. Choosing PL experience instead of potentially better players is a route I really don't like. I think it's a cowards way. It's safe, you know what you get (even though that might not be good enough), and you pay way over the odds. Let's get some exciting players in. Some may not make it, but there will be players who do, and that is worth much more than all of the average Joe's that we call Crouch, Kapo, Riise etc. Sorry but that really isn't true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Screw PL experience. I think it's a load of bullshit. If a player is good, he will make it no matter where he plays as long as he fits in with his teammates. Choosing PL experience instead of potentially better players is a route I really don't like. I think it's a cowards way. It's safe, you know what you get (even though that might not be good enough), and you pay way over the odds. Let's get some exciting players in. Some may not make it, but there will be players who do, and that is worth much more than all of the average Joe's that we call Crouch, Kapo, Riise etc. Sorry but that really isn't true. Whys that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Because some players simply don't work in other leagues no matter how good they are. Do I really need to give examples, there are quite a few! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Because some players simply don't work in other leagues no matter how good they are. Do I really need to give examples, there are quite a few! 1. Morientes 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 I'll add Veron. This could be a fun game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Because some players simply don't work in other leagues no matter how good they are. Do I really need to give examples, there are quite a few! 1. Morientes 2. Shevchenko 3. Veron 4. Luque 5. Del Horno 6. Kezman 7. Reyes 8. Forlan Ok not all of them completely failed but they couldn't adapt to the country/league and ended up leaving because of it/struggling to get a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Because some players simply don't work in other leagues no matter how good they are. Do I really need to give examples, there are quite a few! 1. Morientes 2. Shevchenko 3. Veron 4. Luque 5. Del Horno 6. Kezman 7. Reyes 8. Forlan Ok not all of them completely failed but they couldn't adapt to the country/league and ended up leaving because of it/struggling to get a game. Reyes probably did the best, had a good spell at one point, Morientes did ok in spells aswell, the rest were shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Have all these players fitted in with his team mates? (which was the point the lad was making) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest assyriantoon Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Because some players simply don't work in other leagues no matter how good they are. Do I really need to give examples, there are quite a few! 1. Morientes 2. Shevchenko 3. Veron 4. Luque 5. Del Horno 6. Kezman 7. Reyes 8. Forlan Ok not all of them completely failed but they couldn't adapt to the country/league and ended up leaving because of it/struggling to get a game. Reyes probably did the best, had a good spell at one point, Morientes did ok in spells aswell, the rest were s***. Del horno was fine. He got sent off in one big game and was frozen out. Luque could have been better without injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 1. Morientes 2. Shevchenko 3. Veron 4. Luque 5. Del Horno 6. Kezman 7. Reyes 8. Forlan 9. Rebrov Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Have all these players fitted in with his team mates? (which was the point the lad was making) How do we know if anyone will fit in with their team mates? Did all those players and the others who have failed all failed simply because they didn't fit in with their team mates? Should "good guy, bit like that Jimmy Bullard fella so will probably fit in well in the dressing room" go down in the attributes section of our scouting? Will our scouts have to scout the dressing room and check on any social life these players may take in with their team mates? Doesn't seem like much of an argument to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Riise is shit and will look even worse at a side outside the top four. FWIW the two lists are most likely a load of bollocks anyway. For a start where are the Scottish based players Keegan has talked about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 My Englishknowledge strikes once again When im saying fitting in with the teammates, I maybe should have said If a player is good, he will make it no matter where he plays as long as he fits in with the team, and the way they play, if that makes more sense to you GeJon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Both lists would be gambles. Riise would be a massive gamble, so would Kapo, Wright-Phillips, and even Henry if he was realistic. These players would be on BIG wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 My Englishknowledge strikes once again When im saying fitting in with the teammates, I maybe should have said If a player is good, he will make it no matter where he plays as long as he fits in with the team, and the way they play, if that makes more sense to you GeJon. I think I know where you are coming from, I still think foreign players are more of a gamble than players who has proven they are good enough already in this league. All being said the "unknown quantity" list excites me more than the proven list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Have all these players fitted in with his team mates? (which was the point the lad was making) How do we know if anyone will fit in with their team mates? Did all those players and the others who have failed all failed simply because they didn't fit in with their team mates? Should "good guy, bit like that Jimmy Bullard fella so will probably fit in well in the dressing room" go down in the attributes section of our scouting? Will our scouts have to scout the dressing room and check on any social life these players may take in with their team mates? Doesn't seem like much of an argument to me. I bet there's a fair few on that list which haven't fitted in and has caused them problems, Shevchenko being a great example, even our own Luque wasn't thought much of simply as the clique at our club thought he didn't train hard enough. So he's got a point. And do you honestly not think Scouts don't find out as much background information as possible? Its not just about the talent on the pitch, its about the application & the temperament, people in football talk so some cases are more blatant than others. Also the initial contact with a new potential signing and his new club is a chance to get to know a person before signing, Houillier famously refused to sign Bowyer from Leeds even though he'd passed his medical because he didn't like the vibe from him. Players are people and who they are is just as important as their talent if not more, if the crack on with the lads the lads will pull through for them, or if you are another Pistone you receive a sheeps hearts for your secret Santa present and leave as soon as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Riise is shit and will look even worse at a side outside the top four. FWIW the two lists are most likely a load of bollocks anyway. For a start where are the Scottish based players Keegan has talked about? The lists were just my opinion on who would be on each one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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