bulivye Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 i know he's no left back, but what he did for that 1st goal was at best lazy. for me there's too much of the sulking prima donna in him. he seems to think that every time he gets the ball he can dribble a la Pele in Victory-- i do dis...dis... dis-> Goal! there's little end product most of his mazy dribbling ends up in a cul-de sac, & i'm waiting to see the difference between his footballing brain and martins. i know many think he's our best player but, seriously, there's flaws to his game that need pointing out. let's have em! and i'm sure i'd be easier on him if i weren't so ticked at our overall effort! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 honestly I would consider dropping him and just playing Duff and Milner on the wings with Enrique at LB. like I've said several times already, he's flashy and nice to look at, but he hasn't really created anything after the first three games of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaetihS Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 his final ball is not good enough so as his decision making even as a winger. Overrun balls a bit like Dyer..threatening going forward but you know the final product is more often than not nought. Starting to think he is too good for us, thats just my feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 honestly I would consider dropping him and just playing Duff and Milner on the wings with Enrique at LB. like I've said several times already, he's flashy and nice to look at, but he hasn't really created anything after the first three games of the season. duff and milner havent created much either and theyve had the added benefit of not playing in defence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 There has been a noticeable drop in his work rate since about December. Agree with most of the stuff in the OP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 his final ball is not good enough so as his decision making even as a winger. Overrun balls a bit like Dyer..threatening going forward but you know the final product is more often than not nought. Starting to think he is too good for us, thats just my feeling. do you think that, or do you think HE thinks that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He can't defend. Do I win? It's hardly rocket science like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He is not a proper left back, even so leaving Rooney go like that was schoolboy. I'd bring Enrique on and move Zoggy upfield instead of Duff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He can't defend. Do I win? It's hardly rocket science like. nope! unless you're satisfied with all he's offered going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He is not a proper left back, even so leaving Rooney go like that was schoolboy. I'd bring Enrique on and move Zoggy upfield instead of Duff. Hes not on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 honestly I would consider dropping him and just playing Duff and Milner on the wings with Enrique at LB. like I've said several times already, he's flashy and nice to look at, but he hasn't really created anything after the first three games of the season. duff and milner havent created much either and theyve had the added benefit of not playing in defence Milner's been contributing quite a bit, Duff is just a better player than N'Zogbia as far as I can tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarralad Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He needs to play in his preferred position week in week out to get the best out of him,he must hate having to play at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest marky555 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He seems to be resigned to the fact that he's going to get his desired move away and therefore doesn't seem to be arsed anymore, I know he has an unfortunate manner of never looking arsed but I think its showing now. Leaving Rooney like he did for the first goal was fucking awful, doesnt matter if your a defender not everyone knows how to keep an eye out and run after a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Can't defend for toffee, one-footed, dribbles into trouble, can't head a ball, never smiles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Either one of the youngsters/reserves should of been at LB today, or either Geremi at RB and Beye at LB with Zog in the middle of the midfield instead of Nicky fucking Butt. Poor show by KK not N'Zogbia, hes out of position remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 does anybody know what exactly is happening with Enrique? Thought somebody said he was back in Spain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 The lad should not be at left back, end of thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jcricthon Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He isn't a left back and seems a bit disenchanted. Sort those two points out and we have a f**king good asset! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Criticism of NZogbia: Playing for Newcastle United. He's far from a good player right now, but right now hes still someone who can be very dangerous to the opposition (and not in the way Barton or Smith are). He has his flaws, he loses the ball often and runs into brick walls, but hes also got the ability to beat several players with pace and dribbling, shoot with power, or put a peach of a cross in. In other words, he has the potential to turn into a good or very good Premiership player, something which cant be said about anyone else in our squad, and unfortunately for him we're probably flushing that potential down the drain. And playing him at left back is doing him no favours either. No wonder he wants to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He's been worse at left back since we put that useless fuckwit Duff in front of him on the wing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dinky Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He wants to leave ASAP. Will be gone in the Summer, mind elsewhere. Very decent left winger, not a left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 hope we sell him abroad at least. Would be pissed if he comes good and starts scoring on us year after year after year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YANKEEBLEEDSMAGPIE Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 The lad should not be at left back, end of thread Here here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 It's a good thing that we're doing so well we can pick out a kid for special criticism who is playing out of position, excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 It's a good thing that we're doing so well we can pick out a kid for special criticism who is playing out of position, excellent. not sure how to respond... zoggy is one that i think has tremendous potential and talent and i've singled him out absolutely because of that. the absolute dross that has been pulling on a black & white shirt this season should be gone this summer, and good riddance. but, it's my hope that zoggy stays and comes good under kk. but he's certainly not the finished article and if he's not careful about his attitude, mentality, work ethic, whatever you want to call it, we'll suffer for it. obviously he's been played out of position, but even HE knew he'd blown it for their 1st goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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