fredbob Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 but, surely ronaldos contribution this season (27 PL goals, and the rest) cant be replaced by anyone. not to mention shirt sales etc. im not sure £100m would be worth it. £100million for 27 pl goals a season, and the rest for at least 10 years. This is the big one, aside from David Beckham, Ronaldo is the most marketable player in the world, makes absolutely no sense in selling him, £100m is silly money, but for me, not silly enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Nobody has mentioned the important fact. Does Ronaldo want to stay or does he want to go? That's what it will all come down to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Must be a nice decision to make though. Take the £100m and rebuild the team or keep Ronaldo and have him torture defences for the next few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Sell him and buy Kaka, Ronaldinho and Benzema with the proceeds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsy Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 £100m could prove cheap for him given the potential to win the Champs League and more importantly the amount of money they could make from marketing him - could be bigger than Beckham as a worldwide brand if done right - make their money back no problem. I'd be inclined to keep him as he can do the business on the pitch and make them loads of cash off it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucaAltieri Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 no reason to sell. they dont need to money and they wont get a better replacement. I disagree, the money is always useful. No player is worth £100m, not even Ronaldo. One bad tackle and it could be curtains. Spending a further £50m on the youth set up and recruitment and using the other £50m on a giant piss up would produce just as much, if not more, sucess than Ronaldo alone can potentially generate. on the other hand, he could get 25+ goals a season for the next 10 years. Right. So you weigh up the odds. Which is more likely? Alternatively you can avoid the gamble and get a £100m in your hand. I know which route I'd go. odds-wise, far more players retire through old age rather than injury. if you're taking the money based on this career ending tackle then you'll be losing the best player in the world on nothing more than a small possibility. Not at all. The point I'm making isn't that you should sell based on fact he might get injured. It was simply that taking the money would allow you to spread the risk and avoid the gamble of pinning so much on one player. Anything can happen in the course of a footballing career. How many quality players keep a high standard of play constantly over their career? Any number of things can go wrong. Even if he doesn't have a career ending injury he may well get a bad tackle that keeps him out a good few months. Will he be the same player when he returns? Will it cause a recurring problem like so many players get? Or again, you can avoid the gamble, take the stupid money being offered, use it to buy other quality players. Improve the squad. As mentioned, they could sign a top out and out striker with that money, they can get shot of Wes Brown, Darren Fletcher, Louis Saha and replace them with quality players. Which would benefit Man United more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sombrero Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 If a player changes hands for a £100m fee, the world has gone officially mental. Makes you think dunnit, just how many top 10 Prem clubs are worth under that, even sides in Europe worth less than just one player, its madness. thats so true actually and also not encouraging for the smaller clubs, even us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 What so if they sold Ronaldo for that and signed Kaka and another star for less than 100m that wouldn't be good buisness? People saying Ronaldo is irreplaceable, i think it's the other way round. 100m profit is un-turn-down-able. He's the best player in the world but 100m could get get you the second and third best players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Sell him and buy Kaka, Ronaldinho and Benzema with the proceeds. Pretty much what i've just said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 no reason to sell. they dont need to money and they wont get a better replacement. I disagree, the money is always useful. No player is worth £100m, not even Ronaldo. One bad tackle and it could be curtains. Spending a further £50m on the youth set up and recruitment and using the other £50m on a giant piss up would produce just as much, if not more, sucess than Ronaldo alone can potentially generate. on the other hand, he could get 25+ goals a season for the next 10 years. Right. So you weigh up the odds. Which is more likely? Alternatively you can avoid the gamble and get a £100m in your hand. I know which route I'd go. odds-wise, far more players retire through old age rather than injury. if you're taking the money based on this career ending tackle then you'll be losing the best player in the world on nothing more than a small possibility. Not at all. The point I'm making isn't that you should sell based on fact he might get injured. It was simply that taking the money would allow you to spread the risk and avoid the gamble of pinning so much on one player. Anything can happen in the course of a footballing career. How many quality players keep a high standard of play constantly over their career? Any number of things can go wrong. Even if he doesn't have a career ending injury he may well get a back tackle that keeps him out a good few months. Will he be the same player when he returns? Will it cause a recurring problem like so many players get? Or again, you can avoid the gamble, take the stupid money being offered, use it to buy other quality players. Improve the squad. As mentioned, they could sign a top out and out striker with that money, they can get shot of Wes Brown, Darren Fletcher, Louis Saha and replace them with quality players. Which would benefit Man United more? its barely even a risk or gamble for me. he's pretty much winning them every match with his goals and there's not many players i can say that about, and his injury record so far (im fairly certain) is excellent. if they spend £100 million trying to replace him they might buy the new Veron or the new Shevchenko, great players who cant hack it in the PL. they've bought some bad players before and will again. they've got the best player in the world who is getting better with every game. basically, its stick or twist. and i'd stick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucaAltieri Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 no reason to sell. they dont need to money and they wont get a better replacement. I disagree, the money is always useful. No player is worth £100m, not even Ronaldo. One bad tackle and it could be curtains. Spending a further £50m on the youth set up and recruitment and using the other £50m on a giant piss up would produce just as much, if not more, sucess than Ronaldo alone can potentially generate. on the other hand, he could get 25+ goals a season for the next 10 years. Right. So you weigh up the odds. Which is more likely? Alternatively you can avoid the gamble and get a £100m in your hand. I know which route I'd go. odds-wise, far more players retire through old age rather than injury. if you're taking the money based on this career ending tackle then you'll be losing the best player in the world on nothing more than a small possibility. Not at all. The point I'm making isn't that you should sell based on fact he might get injured. It was simply that taking the money would allow you to spread the risk and avoid the gamble of pinning so much on one player. Anything can happen in the course of a footballing career. How many quality players keep a high standard of play constantly over their career? Any number of things can go wrong. Even if he doesn't have a career ending injury he may well get a back tackle that keeps him out a good few months. Will he be the same player when he returns? Will it cause a recurring problem like so many players get? Or again, you can avoid the gamble, take the stupid money being offered, use it to buy other quality players. Improve the squad. As mentioned, they could sign a top out and out striker with that money, they can get shot of Wes Brown, Darren Fletcher, Louis Saha and replace them with quality players. Which would benefit Man United more? its barely even a risk or gamble for me. he's pretty much winning them every match with his goals and there's not many players i can say that about, and his injury record so far (im fairly certain) is excellent. if they spend £100 million trying to replace him they might buy the new Veron or the new Shevchenko, great players who cant hack it in the PL. they've bought some bad players before and will again. they've got the best player in the world who is getting better with every game. basically, its stick or twist. and i'd stick. How much do you think Torres would cost? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 They dont need the money tho They need huge amount of money to deal with their debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 He's the best player in the world but 100m could get get you the second and third best players. Is that good business though? Then what if the likes of Kaka don't cut it in the premiership which isn't impossible? He's the best player in the world, if I was Fergie I wouldn't sell under any circumstances. Unless he demanded the move... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 They dont need the money tho They need huge amount of money to deal with their debt. They get huge amounts by filling the ground and winning trophies which they wouldnt do without Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 They dont need the money tho They need huge amount of money to deal with their debt. They get huge amounts by filling the ground and winning trophies which they wouldnt do without Ronaldo They did it before Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 i reckon he'll want to go personally, madrid is the pinnacle for the portugese/spanish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 They dont need the money tho They need huge amount of money to deal with their debt. They get huge amounts by filling the ground and winning trophies which they wouldnt do without Ronaldo They did it before Ronaldo Aye but there wasnt as much competition they wouldnt win it without him in my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sniffer Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 There's always the outside chance that, even a player as good as he is, would not play to the level he does at manure. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know. Especially if they win the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 no reason to sell. they dont need to money and they wont get a better replacement. I disagree, the money is always useful. No player is worth £100m, not even Ronaldo. One bad tackle and it could be curtains. Spending a further £50m on the youth set up and recruitment and using the other £50m on a giant piss up would produce just as much, if not more, sucess than Ronaldo alone can potentially generate. on the other hand, he could get 25+ goals a season for the next 10 years. Right. So you weigh up the odds. Which is more likely? Alternatively you can avoid the gamble and get a £100m in your hand. I know which route I'd go. odds-wise, far more players retire through old age rather than injury. if you're taking the money based on this career ending tackle then you'll be losing the best player in the world on nothing more than a small possibility. Not at all. The point I'm making isn't that you should sell based on fact he might get injured. It was simply that taking the money would allow you to spread the risk and avoid the gamble of pinning so much on one player. Anything can happen in the course of a footballing career. How many quality players keep a high standard of play constantly over their career? Any number of things can go wrong. Even if he doesn't have a career ending injury he may well get a back tackle that keeps him out a good few months. Will he be the same player when he returns? Will it cause a recurring problem like so many players get? Or again, you can avoid the gamble, take the stupid money being offered, use it to buy other quality players. Improve the squad. As mentioned, they could sign a top out and out striker with that money, they can get shot of Wes Brown, Darren Fletcher, Louis Saha and replace them with quality players. Which would benefit Man United more? its barely even a risk or gamble for me. he's pretty much winning them every match with his goals and there's not many players i can say that about, and his injury record so far (im fairly certain) is excellent. if they spend £100 million trying to replace him they might buy the new Veron or the new Shevchenko, great players who cant hack it in the PL. they've bought some bad players before and will again. they've got the best player in the world who is getting better with every game. basically, its stick or twist. and i'd stick. How much do you think Torres would cost? differing situations. not worth as much as ronaldo for me, but very pricey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 He's the best player in the world but 100m could get get you the second and third best players. Is that good business though? Then what if the likes of Kaka don't cut it in the premiership which isn't impossible? He's the best player in the world, if I was Fergie I wouldn't sell under any circumstances. Unless he demanded the move... If Ronaldo wasn't in their side, i still believe they would compete for the title. Add Kaka etc they would (probably) win it. No player is a certanty to be a success in a any league but good plyers lessen the risk. Although, i get your point. Every manager strives to find the best playerin the world in order to help them win the league and Man Utd have done that, so why sell? What i'm saying is you could buy five potential Ronaldo's with that money, which is a breathtaking thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BudBud Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Stupid money for one man who could have a career ending injury with a bad tackle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 The debts are managable and serviceable due to the amount they bring in. Ronaldo is a money machine himself. Yes the debts are managable, but at what point do they actually reduce those debts? Surely they want to do that at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 By selling their best player, not a fcking chance. He brings in fasr to much money for merchandise and while man u have him playing for them they can justfiy some of the season ticket money/prices. Best player in the world at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 no reason to sell. they dont need to money and they wont get a better replacement. I disagree, the money is always useful. No player is worth £100m, not even Ronaldo. One bad tackle and it could be curtains. Spending a further £50m on the youth set up and recruitment and using the other £50m on a giant piss up would produce just as much, if not more, sucess than Ronaldo alone can potentially generate. on the other hand, he could get 25+ goals a season for the next 10 years. Right. So you weigh up the odds. Which is more likely? Alternatively you can avoid the gamble and get a £100m in your hand. I know which route I'd go. odds-wise, far more players retire through old age rather than injury. if you're taking the money based on this career ending tackle then you'll be losing the best player in the world on nothing more than a small possibility. Not at all. The point I'm making isn't that you should sell based on fact he might get injured. It was simply that taking the money would allow you to spread the risk and avoid the gamble of pinning so much on one player. Anything can happen in the course of a footballing career. How many quality players keep a high standard of play constantly over their career? Any number of things can go wrong. Even if he doesn't have a career ending injury he may well get a bad tackle that keeps him out a good few months. Will he be the same player when he returns? Will it cause a recurring problem like so many players get? Or again, you can avoid the gamble, take the stupid money being offered, use it to buy other quality players. Improve the squad. As mentioned, they could sign a top out and out striker with that money, they can get shot of Wes Brown, Darren Fletcher, Louis Saha and replace them with quality players. Which would benefit Man United more? Ok, so sell him and buy up to three replacements, whats to say those replacements won't get bad/career threatening injuries? I say keep him, truth be told, there isn't one of us wouldn't crawl over broken glass to have him as an NUFC player. Madrid will be back with a £200m bid within two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 united were pretty crap at the start of the season, and brilliant since then. any coincidence then that ronaldo was sent off at pompey and banned for 3 matches at the start? other than the start, theyve barely put a foot wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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