LooneyToonArmy Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 bringing back the Koeman `outcasts` will be key to Valencia surviving. their experience will no doubt help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 The season has been a disaster for Valencia, the manager at the start of the season Quique Sanchez Flores fell out with the sporting director Amedeo Carboni. They never sorted their differences, and after some avergae displays the supporters were calling for the head of Flores. He left, the ego maniac Koeman arrived and immediately tried to throw his weight about, make his mark and show who was the boss, wielding the axe to Canizares, Albelda and Angulo, 3 long serving and key squad members. That didn't sit well with the rest of the squad, and he started fielding younger players and he attempted to stamp his authority upon the squad, whilst some of the players used, have lots of potential and have bright futures, they were not ready to be thrown in at the deep end. Confidence was shot and the players started playing for themselves, lifting themselves for cup games, and basically playing how they wanted to play in those games. The players believe they work best in a 4-4-2, Koeman preferred 4-3-3/4-5-1 or even some experiments with 3-5-2, which didn't work. Koeman, thankfully, has now gone, and Voro is in charge, the first thing he did was bring back Albelda, canizares and Angulo to train with the first team squad. Key players have spent much of the season out injured also, David Villa suffered a lack of form and service for a key chunk of the season, and will be gone in the summer, and despite his goals, isn't the most popular character in the dressing room. Vicente has had an injury nightmare for the best part of two years, and whilst he was one of the worlds best wingers, major doubts remain as to what sort of level he can return to. Joaquin has obvious quality, but has struggled due to Koeman's rotation of him. Miguel still has much to offer but seems disillusioned and uninterested and maybe needs a move to get going again. The squad has plenty of quality, Albelda, Albiol, Silva, Vicente, Joaquin, Morientes, Villa, Mata, Canizares, Hildebrand, Sunny, and Banega, and they should just avoid the drop, but there could still be a huge clearout in the summer, when, Marcelino is expected to take charge. Not THE Marcelino? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 He ment Racing Santander's manager.. On the other hand that would've been fun.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 According to wiki "our" Marcelino is a Liverpool scout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 According to wiki "our" Marcelino is a Liverpool scout Surely all that writing can't be good for his bad finger? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 "our Marcelino" is a football commentator on spanish telly or radio, can'r remember which at mo... Would have any of: Silva, Villa, Vidic, Vicente, Albelda or Angulo (too old maybee?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Hildebrand, Miguel, Albiol, Albelda, Silva, Vicente, Joaquin, Manuel Fernandes, Villa, Zigic, Gavilan, Arrabenzieri (sp?), or in other words, about 85% of their 1. team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Didnt Joaquin say he'd be interested in signing for us a while back, he looks a qulaity player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicente_14 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 And so, No Koeman, and a 3-0 victory! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Hildebrand, Miguel, Albiol, Albelda, Silva, Vicente, Joaquin, Manuel Fernandes, Villa, Zigic, Gavilan, Arrabenzieri (sp?), or in other words, about 85% of their 1. team Arizmendi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Didnt Joaquin say he'd be interested in signing for us a while back, he looks a qulaity player. Under Souness is friends with Luque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Hildebrand, Miguel, Albiol, Albelda, Silva, Vicente, Joaquin, Manuel Fernandes, Villa, Zigic, Gavilan, Arrabenzieri (sp?), or in other words, about 85% of their 1. team Arizmendi haha, almost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Mata, Vicente, Villa, Albelda, Joaquin, Zigic, Caniera, Miguel, Silva, Banega, Maduro, Albiol. So much quality in that side. We'd have problems getting any of the above even if they did get relegated. Timo Hildebrand. yes, please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 It takes a special kind of managerial incompetence to almost relegate a team with this much talent. Kind of like dropping five points to Derby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 It takes a special kind of managerial incompetence to almost relegate a team with this much talent. Kind of like dropping five points to Derby. See, considering everything, I look at it as 1 point gained. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Villa, Joaquin and Silva would be lovely. Realistically though, I think Albelda we can get - after this year I think he'd want to get out of there for a fresh start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BudBud Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Get Villa for Smith, he will score as well as pick up countless cards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Villa, Joaquin and Silva would be lovely. Realistically though, I think Albelda we can get - after this year I think he'd want to get out of there for a fresh start. Welcome to the forums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Arizmendi plays one decent game in five TBH... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmsy10 Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 Getting thumped 6-0 by Barca! to be fair, barca have played some great stuff! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Getting thumped 6-0 by Barca! to be fair, barca have played some great stuff! What a game that was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Just two points above the drop now. Could see two famous clubs (Parma in Italy and Valencia) go down this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Just two points above the drop now. Could see two famous clubs (Parma in Italy and Valencia) go down this year. 3 if you include the mighty derby :-[ one win......one fucking win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 quite frankly if they manage to avoid the drop i can't see them selling too many players. valencia are still a big club, and they are in europe next season are they not? after winning the copa del ray or something. they've sacked whats his face as well, so the players who were fucked about can look forward to a fresh start under the next boss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 quite frankly if they manage to avoid the drop i can't see them selling too many players. valencia are still a big club, and they are in europe next season are they not? after winning the copa del ray or something. they've sacked whats his face as well, so the players who were f***** about can look forward to a fresh start under the next boss. There in a financial crisis and have to sell they have no choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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