Yorkie Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Accident waiting to happen tbh. Mentally weak as piss and if he doesn't start like a house on fire; the crowd will be on his back and he'll crumble. Just like he did last time. If we've actually got a reasonable £5m to blow on one player, spend it elsewhere. Preferably on a decent striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Yes we do. Nah, we need a more defensively solid player in CM.. Jenas doesn't offer anything different than Barton and Guthrie.. except maybe for stupid dribbles at full pace that usually lead to nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Exactly. Guthrie deserves a stater role and it would be silly to spend 5m on a rotation player. Instead, a cheeky bid of 3m for Bouba Diop would be much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Guthrie doesn't deserve a starting role just yet. He's a poor athlete and is poor defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Exactly. Guthrie deserves a stater role and it would be silly to spend 5m on a rotation player. Instead, a cheeky bid of 3m for Bouba Diop would be much better. As in the Pompy player? I reckon due to his age and their position we'd get him for next to nowt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Guthrie doesn't deserve a starting role just yet. He's a poor athlete and is poor defensively. He's a good passer, but stuggles to have a great impact due to the reasons you've stated. Rotation at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Yes we do. Nah, we need a more defensively solid player in CM.. Jenas doesn't offer anything different than Barton and Guthrie.. except maybe for stupid dribbles at full pace that usually lead to nothing. I really wonder how much football you watch sometimes. He's got pace, a good engine and a fair bit of strength on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Exactly. Guthrie deserves a stater role and it would be silly to spend 5m on a rotation player. Instead, a cheeky bid of 3m for Bouba Diop would be much better. As in the Pompy player? I reckon due to his age and their position we'd get him for next to nowt. in these days when movement more than ever is the key and teams are starting to go 4-3-3 the last thing we need is a diop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Diop is an accident waiting to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Exactly. Guthrie deserves a stater role and it would be silly to spend 5m on a rotation player. Instead, a cheeky bid of 3m for Bouba Diop would be much better. As in the Pompy player? I reckon due to his age and their position we'd get him for next to nowt. in these days when movement more than ever is the key and teams are starting to go 4-3-3 the last thing we need is a diop. He'd be a bigger built Nicky Butt for sure. We need pace and legs in the middle, Nolan, Smith, Barton & Guthrie are too flat for my liken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Exactly. Guthrie deserves a stater role and it would be silly to spend 5m on a rotation player. Instead, a cheeky bid of 3m for Bouba Diop would be much better. As in the Pompy player? I reckon due to his age and their position we'd get him for next to nowt. in these days when movement more than ever is the key and teams are starting to go 4-3-3 the last thing we need is a diop. He'd be a bigger built Nicky Butt for sure. We need pace and legs in the middle, Nolan, Smith, Barton & Guthrie are too flat for my liken. there we go again with pace. it's nice but give me an avergae paced player with technique and a clever brain everytime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Exactly. Guthrie deserves a stater role and it would be silly to spend 5m on a rotation player. Instead, a cheeky bid of 3m for Bouba Diop would be much better. As in the Pompy player? I reckon due to his age and their position we'd get him for next to nowt. in these days when movement more than ever is the key and teams are starting to go 4-3-3 the last thing we need is a diop. He'd be a bigger built Nicky Butt for sure. We need pace and legs in the middle, Nolan, Smith, Barton & Guthrie are too flat for my liken. there we go again with pace. it's nice but give me an avergae paced player with technique and a clever brain everytime. They cost money, pace makes up for a lot of defects in the modern game imo. It's cost effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 You won't get Jenas for £5m with Levy in charge. Probably flog him off to Villa for £7m plus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Exactly. Guthrie deserves a stater role and it would be silly to spend 5m on a rotation player. Instead, a cheeky bid of 3m for Bouba Diop would be much better. As in the Pompy player? I reckon due to his age and their position we'd get him for next to nowt. in these days when movement more than ever is the key and teams are starting to go 4-3-3 the last thing we need is a diop. He'd be a bigger built Nicky Butt for sure. We need pace and legs in the middle, Nolan, Smith, Barton & Guthrie are too flat for my liken. there we go again with pace. it's nice but give me an avergae paced player with technique and a clever brain everytime. They cost money, pace makes up for a lot of defects in the modern game imo. It's cost effective. i really disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Reports kicking about that Beckford has signed/is signing for Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Yes we do. Nah, we need a more defensively solid player in CM.. Jenas doesn't offer anything different than Barton and Guthrie.. except maybe for stupid dribbles at full pace that usually lead to nothing. I really wonder how much football you watch sometimes. He's got pace, a good engine and a fair bit of strength on the ball. No offence, but I'm pretty sure I know more about football than you.. Jenas' biggest asset is his pace but CM is the one position in the pitch where pace doesn't matter. Like I said, I like him but would it be wise to spend half of our budget on a position for which we have plenty of options (Guthrie, Barton and.. em.. Nolan) If we are to buy a midfielder he certainly has to be more defensive-minded. A player with very good tactical discipline and positional awareness OR with very good tackling ability and decent engine. If it was up to me, I'd have no reluctance in playing Colo there. Imo, we'll find it a lot easier (and cheaper) to buy an adequate CB than a good DM.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Nonsense. oh aye.. you're right actually.. let's blow it all on Jenas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Nonsense. oh aye.. you're right actually.. let's blow it all on Jenas. He is considerably better than any other central midfielder we currently have at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Nonsense. oh aye.. you're right actually.. let's blow it all on Jenas. He is considerably better than any other central midfielder we currently have at the club. I agree, although 'considerably' is stretching it a bit.. But unless we sell Barton and Nolan, there's really no need for us to pay millions for Jermaine fucking Jenas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 I'm tempted to make a case for Barton, but bollocks to it. Jenas is better than all of em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Exactly. Guthrie deserves a stater role and it would be silly to spend 5m on a rotation player. Instead, a cheeky bid of 3m for Bouba Diop would be much better. As in the Pompy player? I reckon due to his age and their position we'd get him for next to nowt. in these days when movement more than ever is the key and teams are starting to go 4-3-3 the last thing we need is a diop. He'd be a bigger built Nicky Butt for sure. We need pace and legs in the middle, Nolan, Smith, Barton & Guthrie are too flat for my liken. there we go again with pace. it's nice but give me an avergae paced player with technique and a clever brain everytime. They cost money, pace makes up for a lot of defects in the modern game imo. It's cost effective. i really disagree. Give me a fast player with technique over an average or slow one with techniques anyday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 I find the "I know more about football than you" to be a really strange argument on an anonymous forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 He'd be much more effective than Nolan in the Premiership for us like. Part of me thinks I don't want him back after the spineless performances he put in for us and the way he used to go missing and not look for the ball when we were playing shit, but realistically we aren't anywhere the level we were at before and he would offer us some legs in the middle which we desperately need. Its never gonna happen like but I'd take him for £5m or less if we sold Nolan for a few million. I'd be a lot more confident of us staying up if we get some legs in the middle of the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted May 21, 2010 Share Posted May 21, 2010 Putting a pacey guy into the center of the pitch could be a big boost for Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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