timnufc22 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 It could be that Shola does well in training but can't hack the pressure of the crowd - his own crowd. I'm the first one to be critical of the hostility the crowd can give of sometimes, and the negative effect it can have, but imo Ameobi is simply a different case. It cannot be purley down to confidence - you dont need confidence to simply run. And this is not an exageration, thats the crazy thing - he simply dosent run, he jogs. Surley if it was purley confidence, and he wanted to get the crowd on his side - the logical thing to do bieng the size that he is would be to harras defenders on the ball, close them down, and simply put himself about a bit (like he did for about 4 games earlier on this season), and then get the crowd respond positivley, and try and work from there. He refuses to do it, as if he's playing a game with the crowd. It is scandelous what he's been doing this year. We are going down, and he is simply strolling around, taking 10 seconds to get up from the gound everytime, feeling sorry for himself, showing zero urgency, no acknowledgment for the situation we find ourselves in. And yes, imo a clear difference in the lack of effort he has put in compared to the rest. Its a very cliched accusation, a player strolling around, not giving a crap, and I think a lot of the times it is over-used, but it really is the situation here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Didn't he play as a defensive midfielder against Arsenal once? Or is my memory making that up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 To be fair to Shola and indeed Sir Bobby, he did a job for him whenever called upon. Particularly in Europe and remember under Sir Bobby it was a lack of funds soon after he took over and an injury crisis or two that prompted the promotion of a then 18 year-old Shola from the reserves to first-team. I remember his debut very well, a hot warm day at St. James' Park where Shola aquitted himself well, drawing considerable attention from one Dennis Wise at one point where I'm sure the odious rat squared up to a bemused Shola. Back then he had potential. Today he is plain dreadful and needs to head any clear out which I'm sure will happen if Shearer remains in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Didn't he play as a defensive midfielder against Arsenal once? Or is my memory making that up? It was left wing wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I am sure he must have moved into the centre at some point, I remember their fans raving about him and suggesting him as a possible target Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I am sure he must have moved into the centre at some point, I remember their fans raving about him and suggesting him as a possible target IIRC on their forums one or two were saying he could be a possible Vieira replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I am sure he must have moved into the centre at some point, I remember their fans raving about him and suggesting him as a possible target IIRC on their forums one or two were saying he could be a possible Vieira replacement. Thats the one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Shola yesterday showed some ability, I have a sneaky feeling it was really Tino in a Shola mask, pace, power, good ball control, good first touch can't have been Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Championship golden boot has his name on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Shola yesterday showed some ability, I have a sneaky feeling it was really Tino in a Shola mask, pace, power, good ball control, good first touch can't have been Shola. Whenever we play these games Shola always looks different class. Much like I bet he's shit hot in training too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Shola yesterday showed some ability, I have a sneaky feeling it was really Tino in a Shola mask, pace, power, good ball control, good first touch can't have been Shola. Whenever we play these games Shola always looks different class. Much like I bet he's shit hot in training too. So what the hell happens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Shola yesterday showed some ability, I have a sneaky feeling it was really Tino in a Shola mask, pace, power, good ball control, good first touch can't have been Shola. Whenever we play these games Shola always looks different class. Much like I bet he's shit hot in training too. So what the hell happens? his arse goes on the match days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Shola yesterday showed some ability, I have a sneaky feeling it was really Tino in a Shola mask, pace, power, good ball control, good first touch can't have been Shola. Whenever we play these games Shola always looks different class. Much like I bet he's shit hot in training too. So what the hell happens? He just needs Skirge's support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 he was good wiv shearer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 he was good wiv shearer if good means absolutely and utterly bollocks then yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 To be fair to Shola and indeed Sir Bobby, he did a job for him whenever called upon. Particularly in Europe He peaked in 03-04 when he was actually useful. Been a fucking moronic, lazy inconvenience ever since. Only 3 more years!! ... before his new 5 year contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 To be fair to Shola and indeed Sir Bobby, he did a job for him whenever called upon. Particularly in Europe He peaked in 03-04 when he was actually useful. Been a f***ing moronic, lazy inconvenience ever since. Only 3 more years!! ... before his new 5 year contract. End of the 2005-6 season he was good as well. Bits and bobs during the Champions League in 2003, but that apart, I agree. Woeful for 90% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Roeder always seemed to coax something approaching a performance out of Shola like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Roeder always seemed to coax something approaching a performance out of Shola like. until he got the job full-time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Roeder always seemed to coax something approaching a performance out of Shola like. until he got the job full-time Shola played reasonably at the beginning of Roeders full season in charge up until his hip injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Shola played reasonably at the beginning of Roeders full season in charge up until his hip injury. Don't know about that. I remember his goal against Everton (in October I think) so well. - Roeder talks pre game about how in training the players have been working hard all week on not being offside with the way Everton had been pushing up on free kicks against them. - FK to us in the game ball goes in. Everton defence pushes up. Shola manages to be static and still a good 2 yards off even before Everton defenders had moved. Heads it. And the linesman doesn't flag Still been doing it since. The amount of free kicks in our own half lobbed up to him where he's managed to be flagged offside just last season must be a world record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Shola played reasonably at the beginning of Roeders full season in charge up until his hip injury. Don't know about that. I remember his goal against Everton (in October I think) so well. - Roeder talks about how in training the players having been working hard all week on not being offside with the way Everton had been pushing on free kicks against them. - FK to us in the game ball goes in. Everton defence pushes up. Shola manages to be static and still a good 2 yards off even before Everton defenders had moved. Heads it. And the linesman doesn't flag Aye I remember that, 1-1 in the end I think. He definitely wasn't prolific, but he scored a few goals and didn't look a total liability.. I have no idea what we'd have done that season if Martins had got an injury tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Roeder always seemed to coax something approaching a performance out of Shola like. until he got the job full-time Shola played reasonably at the beginning of Roeders full season in charge up until his hip injury. he had about 2 goals from 15 games before the injury, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Shola would be markably improved if a manager took hm and worked on his strengths and got the team playing to them. OTT won't work, running onto won't he needs it out wide with the chance to run at his man and to feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Roeder always seemed to coax something approaching a performance out of Shola like. until he got the job full-time Shola played reasonably at the beginning of Roeders full season in charge up until his hip injury. he had about 2 goals from 15 games before the injury, right? Well I wasn't too sure after you posted that so I checked it out and according to Wiki* he made 13 appearances that season with 3 of them as a sub and scored 5 goals before injury. *Yeah, I know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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