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One way of looking at it could be to rank each position, and score points accordingly:

 

Goalkeepers

1. James (5pt)

2. Friedel (4pt)

3. Given (3pt)

4. Howard (2pt)

5. Gomes (1pt)

 

Right backs

1. Beye (5pt)

2. Hutton (4pt)

3. Glen Johnson (3pt)

4. Hibbert (2pt)

5. Luke Young (1pt)

 

Left Backs

1. Lescott (5pt)

2. Bale (4pt)

3. Enrique (3pt)

4. Shorey (2pt)

5. Hreidarsson (1pt)

 

Centre Backs

1. Coloccini (5pt)

2. King (4.5pt)

3. Woodgate (4pt)

4. Distin (3.5pt)

5. Campbell (3pt)

6. Yobo (2.5pt)

7. Laursen (2pt)

8. Davies (1.5pt)

9. Taylor (1pt)

10. Jagielka (0.5pt)

 

Right midfield

1. Bentley (5pt)

2. Pienaar (4pt)

3. Milner (3pt)

4. Utaka (2pt)

5. Petrov (1pt)

 

Left midfield

1. Young (5pt)

2. Modric (4pt)

3. Kranjcar (3pt)

4. Gutierrez (2pt)

5. Arteta (1pt)

 

Central Midfield

1. Barry (5pt)

2. Diarra (4.5pt)

3. Huddlestone (4pt)

4. Bouba Diop (3.5pt)

5. Barton (3pt)

6. Reo-Coker (2.5pt)

7. Guthrie (2pt)

8. Jenas (1.5pt)

9. Neville (1pt)

10. Rodwell (0.5pt)

 

Attacking midfielder/second striker

1. Owen (5pt)

2. Defoe (4pt)

3. Agbonlahor (3pt)

4. Bent (2pt)

5. Cahill (1pt)

 

Target man

1. Berbatov (5pt)

2. Crouch (4pt)

3. Viduka (3pt)

4. Carew (2pt)

5. Yakubu (1pt)

 

Final totals:

 

1. Tottenham 39 pts

2. Portsmouth 36.5 pts

3. Newcastle 35 pts

4. Aston Villa 28.5 pts

5. Everton 20.5 pts

 

So yes, Spurs do have the greatest comparative strength, but if they lose some players and others keep theirs fit, other teams can topple them.

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Villa by a mile, might have said Pompey had they not sold Muntari

 

how villa?  really, what have they actually got?

 

Balance, strength, pace, organization and damn good manager.

 

seriously we could argue this all night but we have equally, if not more, dangerous players than them

 

compare villas first choice forwards with ours, for example

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Right midfield

1. Bentley (5pt)

2. Pienaar (4pt)

3. Milner (3pt)

4. Utaka (2pt)

5. Petrov (1pt)

 

 

Milner > Petrov?

 

Easy that one, you know I'm talking about Stylian Petrov the Villa central midfielder who plays on the right hand side, who Villa fans want to replace with Milner....

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I don't know where to start with those rankings James.

 

Anywhere you like.

 

Okay, take Owen out then swap the list round, put Owen back on the top and that would be my list. Crouch, Viduka and carew above Yakubu? Collicini top ahead of the likes of Woodgate, King, Distin, Yobo who are all proven to be excellent defenders in the prem. Gutiarrez ahead of Arteta... could go on.

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Final totals:

 

1. Tottenham 39 pts

2. Portsmouth 36.5 pts

3. Newcastle 35 pts

4. Aston Villa 28.5 pts

5. Everton 20.5 pts

 

 

Remind me who finished 5th & 6th last year?

 

Been weakened since.

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One way of looking at it could be to rank each position, and score points accordingly:

 

Goalkeepers

1. James (5pt)

2. Friedel (4pt)

3. Given (3pt)

4. Howard (2pt)

5. Gomes (1pt)

 

Right backs

1. Beye (5pt)

2. Hutton (4pt)

3. Glen Johnson (3pt)

4. Hibbert (2pt)

5. Luke Young (1pt)

 

Left Backs

1. Lescott (5pt)

2. Bale (4pt)

3. Enrique (3pt)

4. Shorey (2pt)

5. Hreidarsson (1pt)

 

Centre Backs

1. Coloccini (5pt)

2. King (4.5pt)

3. Woodgate (4pt)

4. Distin (3.5pt)

5. Campbell (3pt)

6. Yobo (2.5pt)

7. Laursen (2pt)

8. Davies (1.5pt)

9. Taylor (1pt)

10. Jagielka (0.5pt)

 

Right midfield

1. Bentley (5pt)

2. Pienaar (4pt)

3. Milner (3pt)

4. Utaka (2pt)

5. Petrov (1pt)

 

Left midfield

1. Young (5pt)

2. Modric (4pt)

3. Kranjcar (3pt)

4. Gutierrez (2pt)

5. Arteta (1pt)

 

Central Midfield

1. Barry (5pt)

2. Diarra (4.5pt)

3. Huddlestone (4pt)

4. Bouba Diop (3.5pt)

5. Barton (3pt)

6. Reo-Coker (2.5pt)

7. Guthrie (2pt)

8. Jenas (1.5pt)

9. Neville (1pt)

10. Rodwell (0.5pt)

 

Attacking midfielder/second striker

1. Owen (5pt)

2. Defoe (4pt)

3. Agbonlahor (3pt)

4. Bent (2pt)

5. Cahill (1pt)

 

Target man

1. Berbatov (5pt)

2. Crouch (4pt)

3. Viduka (3pt)

4. Carew (2pt)

5. Yakubu (1pt)

 

Final totals:

 

1. Tottenham 39 pts

2. Portsmouth 36.5 pts

3. Newcastle 35 pts

4. Aston Villa 28.5 pts

5. Everton 20.5 pts

 

So yes, Spurs do have the greatest comparative strength, but if they lose some players and others keep theirs fit, other teams can topple them.

 

I'll kick it off...

 

Arteta is a right winger, and probably the best one!! Even left wing he's better than bloody kranjcar, young, and the unproven Guti and Modric (in this league).

 

Cahil's a midfielder who scores more goals than most of those he's up against, never mind assists.

 

Carew and Viduka better than Yakubu

 

Milner better than 2 people?

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James,

 

Sorry, but where did you get those numbers? Really a bit silly giving a player like Modric who has done nothing 4 points and a proven player like Arteta 1 point. Really, you'd rate Carew, Viduka, and Crouch ahead of Yakubu? Based on what? Surely not  goals scored.

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Final totals:

 

1. Tottenham 39 pts

2. Portsmouth 36.5 pts

3. Newcastle 35 pts

4. Aston Villa 28.5 pts

5. Everton 20.5 pts

 

 

Remind me who finished 5th & 6th last year?

 

Been weakened since.

 

How?  Villa have lost a centre half granted, but gained a far superior goal keeper, are on the verge of getting a decent rightback (which they didn't have last year) & signed Shorey & Sidwell.

 

Seriously mate, what an absolute load of rubbish :lol:

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James,

 

Sorry, but where did you get those numbers? Really a bit silly giving a player like Modric who has done nothing 4 points and a proven player like Arteta 1 point. Really, you'd rate Carew, Viduka, and Crouch ahead of Yakubu? Based on what? Surely not  goals scored.

 

Carew, Viduka and Crouch better Yakubu in terms of overall play, and Viduka and Crouch would get more goals if they played the same number of games as Yak.

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OK then

 

Barton over Reo-Coker - Barton who basically did nothing last and has had nearly no preseason over Reo-Coker who enjoyed a very solid year last season.

 

Campbell over Laursen and Yobo - Campbell was rubbish at the back end of last season and is starting to go down hill fast. Both Yobo and Laursen have been rcoks for Everton and Villa

 

Coloccini - How can you rank this guy at the top when he hasn't played a single Premiership game and amny of the defenders below have been rocks in the Premiership these last few years

 

Jenas - Your showing more bias here. Jenas was much better performer last season than Guthrie and Barton

 

I could go on but I won't.

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Final totals:

 

1. Tottenham 39 pts

2. Portsmouth 36.5 pts

3. Newcastle 35 pts

4. Aston Villa 28.5 pts

5. Everton 20.5 pts

 

 

Remind me who finished 5th & 6th last year?

 

Been weakened since.

 

How?  Villa have lost a centre half granted, but gained a far superior goal keeper, are on the verge of getting a decent rightback (which they didn't have last year) & signed Shorey & Sidwell.

 

Seriously mate, what an absolute load of rubbish :lol:

 

Something by James is a load of crap? Whatever next?

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