johnnypd Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 milner was an average premiership winger that we moved on for more than he was worth so that we could bring in a better replacement. this final bit never happened. though i never rated him we would've been far better placed to stay up had he stayed for the season because, since dyer and solano went unreplaced, he was the only right-winger at the club. testament to how unbalanced our squad was/is. Villa can do better than him and will have to do so if they want to break into the top four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 milner was an average premiership winger that we moved on for more than he was worth so that we could bring in a better replacement. this final bit never happened. though i never rated him we would've been far better placed to stay up had he stayed for the season because, since dyer and solano went unreplaced, he was the only right-winger at the club. testament to how unbalanced our squad was/is. Villa can do better than him and will have to do so if they want to break into the top four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Milner reminds me of a slightly better Keith Gillespie beyond belief. There is nothing similar about them imo, Gillespie was twice the player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Gillespie was the complete opposite of Milner. Fast as fuck with a good crossing technique. Milner, despite his constant turns left and right, is very predictible as a winger and his final ball is often aimed at nobody.. just throw it in there. 12 million is a great price for his limited ability and I don't blame Ashley for accepting that. N'Zogbia on the other hand is a more complete player, despite his brainless dribble. As an attacking threat, he was miles ahead of any of our midfielders and Joe fucking Kinnear should've treated him differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Milner reminds me of a slightly better Keith Gillespie Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Milner reminds me of a slightly better Keith Gillespie beyond belief. There is nothing similar about them imo, Gillespie was twice the player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Milner reminds me of a slightly better Keith Gillespie beyond belief. There is nothing similar about them imo, Gillespie was twice the player Aye for sure, faster and better crosser oh and he could take the ball past a defender too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Milner reminds me of a slightly better Keith Gillespie beyond belief. There is nothing similar about them imo, Gillespie was twice the player Aye for sure, faster and better crosser oh and he could take the ball past a defender too jonas is the better footballer. gillespie is the better out and out winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I had an epic debate about Jonas with one of my best mates the other day, I still reckon it will click for him soon and he'll be class! Think he'll do a job in the championship if he's still here. Not sure why I believe these things! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I had an epic debate about Jonas with one of my best mates the other day, I still reckon it will click for him soon and he'll be class! Think he'll do a job in the championship if he's still here. Not sure why I believe these things! i do aswell. i doubt it'll be here and in the championship though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I think people are far too over critical on Jonas tbf, he's a very good player and capable of playing for any team below the top 4 nevermind us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Milner reminds me of a slightly better Keith Gillespie beyond belief. There is nothing similar about them imo, Gillespie was twice the player Aye for sure, faster and better crosser oh and he could take the ball past a defender too jonas is the better footballer. gillespie is the better out and out winger. The comparison was with Milner mate, not Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Can you think of one stand-out performance from Milner which made you feel, "wow, what a player"? With Ginola, you had the battering of Neil Cox, Robert had the two belters against Spurs, Gillespie the anal raping of Sergi in the Barcelona match, Gutierrez his debut at Old Trafford... Can't think of a single performance in his 3 full seasons here which will live in the memory like those above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Can you think of one stand-out performance from Milner which made you feel, "wow, what a player"? With Ginola, you had the battering of Neil Cox, Robert had the two belters against Spurs, Gillespie the anal raping of Sergi in the Barcelona match, Gutierrez his debut at Old Trafford... Can't think of a single performance in his 3 full seasons here which will live in the memory like those above. the only time I left a match thinking he'd played brilliantly was the Chelsea (h) last game of 04-05. We drew 1-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 He had a pretty good game in his last game for us IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 He had a pretty good game in his last game for us IIRC. Against Coventry mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 He had a pretty good game in his last game for us IIRC. Against Coventry mind. True. Still not sure how we managed to go into extra time with that, that was one of the best performances from us I've seen in a long time. I remember going to football the next morning and my team mate saying that it was the best performance he'd seen from any team so far that season. Ultimately meant shit though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 He had a pretty good game in his last game for us IIRC. Against Coventry mind. He was outstanding that night though,totally ran the game,with Jonas coincidentally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 He had a pretty good game in his last game for us IIRC. Against Coventry mind. True. Still not sure how we managed to go into extra time with that, that was one of the best performances from us I've seen in a long time. I remember going to football the next morning and my team mate saying that it was the best performance he'd seen from any team so far that season. Ultimately meant s*** though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 He had a pretty good game in his last game for us IIRC. Against Coventry mind. True. Still not sure how we managed to go into extra time with that, that was one of the best performances from us I've seen in a long time. I remember going to football the next morning and my team mate saying that it was the best performance he'd seen from any team so far that season. Ultimately meant s*** though... Seriously mate, I was as surprised as you are to hear it, he's a Liverpool fan as well. We did play pretty well that game, and it was very early in the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 It was a good night that, long entertaining game. Great feeling about football - 3 games, 2 wins and a draw (against Man u no less) how things had changed a week later, ruined a holiday I paid over 2 grand for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 We absolutely battered Coventry that night, stupid last few minutes of each half aside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I think people are far too over critical on Jonas tbf, he's a very good player and capable of playing for any team below the top 4 nevermind us. Like him, as he's a player who can turn a defensive, nothing situation into an attacking one, and is great at keeping possession in tight situations, unlike everyone else in the squad (now that Viduka has left). His best games have also been against the top teams for the most part. At the same time though, he's becoming a bit like Michael Owen in that he might well be a much more useful/effective player in a considerably better team, but that "better team" is not us, and won't be for a good few years now that we're no longer a Premiership team. So why have him in the team? The excuses or reasons of "it's the fault of those around him" won't translate to points on the board for us. Would be worth looking into a Kieron Richardson type winger who may be more useful in the short term, providing we can sell Jonas for silly money of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Coventry was class, things lokked to be on the up. First half especially we passed the ball better than at any time in the previous 5 years. And then Milner handed in his request......and then..............oblivion! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Has anybody mentioned how Milner was being greedy in demanding a pay-rise yet his performances had not reflected this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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