Syrette Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Bougherra would be good cover for right back, centre half and holding midfield. For 3m, he has loads of potential. Physically he's superb and he's very good on the ball. A bit of nous and experience and he could be very good. Reminds me a bit of a young Rio- but not as good. He's 26. How much better can he get exactly? As a centre half. A lot I would say. I thought he was 24 tbh, but Rio is 30. Has he not improved in the last 4 years? He was good enough for Man Utd and Leeds to pay £18m+ each before he was 26, so there's your answer. What's that got to do with how much he's improved over the last 4 years though? I got the impression the Captain was implying that he felt Ferdinand has massively improved in the last 4 years. I disagree, he was quality before then and the transfer fees reflect that. Just because he was class before 4 years back doesn't mean to say he hasn't improved since then though. You don't say. Of course he's steadily improved as a player over the years, that's to be expected of a regular England and Man Utd player. The fact is that he was of immense quality and class before he was Bougherra's age, and has only got better since. It's a strange comparison because Bougherra hasn't had anything close to as good a reputation as Ferdinand had before he was 26. Ferdinand hasn't improved "a lot" in the last 4 years because he didn't need to. I can't see such an average player as Bougherra is making a massive leap in quality any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Bougherra would be good cover for right back, centre half and holding midfield. For 3m, he has loads of potential. Physically he's superb and he's very good on the ball. A bit of nous and experience and he could be very good. Reminds me a bit of a young Rio- but not as good. He's 26. How much better can he get exactly? As a centre half. A lot I would say. I thought he was 24 tbh, but Rio is 30. Has he not improved in the last 4 years? He was good enough for Man Utd and Leeds to pay £18m+ each before he was 26, so there's your answer. What's that got to do with how much he's improved over the last 4 years though? I got the impression the Captain was implying that he felt Ferdinand has massively improved in the last 4 years. I disagree, he was quality before then and the transfer fees reflect that. Just because he was class before 4 years back doesn't mean to say he hasn't improved since then though. You don't say. Of course he's steadily improved as a player over the years, that's to be expected of a regular England and Man Utd player. The fact is that he of immense quality and class before he was Bougherra's age, and has only got better since. It's a strange comparison because Bougherra hasn't had anything close to as good a reputation as Ferdinand had before he was 26. Ferdinand hasn't improve "a lot" in the last 4 years because he didn't need to. I can't see such an average player as Bougherra is making a massive leap in quality any time soon. Would have preferred us to go for Cuellar last summer than Bougherra, but he would be ok for back up to the first team I would guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Bougherra would be good cover for right back, centre half and holding midfield. For 3m, he has loads of potential. Physically he's superb and he's very good on the ball. A bit of nous and experience and he could be very good. Reminds me a bit of a young Rio- but not as good. He's 26. How much better can he get exactly? As a centre half. A lot I would say. I thought he was 24 tbh, but Rio is 30. Has he not improved in the last 4 years? He was good enough for Man Utd and Leeds to pay £18m+ each before he was 26, so there's your answer. What's that got to do with how much he's improved over the last 4 years though? I got the impression the Captain was implying that he felt Ferdinand has massively improved in the last 4 years. I disagree, he was quality before then and the transfer fees reflect that. Just because he was class before 4 years back doesn't mean to say he hasn't improved since then though. You don't say. Of course he's steadily improved as a player over the years, that's to be expected of a regular England and Man Utd player. The fact is that he of immense quality and class before he was Bougherra's age, and has only got better since. It's a strange comparison because Bougherra hasn't had anything close to as good a reputation as Ferdinand had before he was 26. Ferdinand hasn't improve "a lot" in the last 4 years because he didn't need to. I can't see such an average player as Bougherra is making a massive leap in quality any time soon. Would have preferred us to go for Cuellar last summer than Bougherra, but he would be ok for back up to the first team I would guess. The important question is - is he better than Taylor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I wish we could sign Ferdinand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Bougherra would be good cover for right back, centre half and holding midfield. For 3m, he has loads of potential. Physically he's superb and he's very good on the ball. A bit of nous and experience and he could be very good. Reminds me a bit of a young Rio- but not as good. He's 26. How much better can he get exactly? As a centre half. A lot I would say. I thought he was 24 tbh, but Rio is 30. Has he not improved in the last 4 years? He was good enough for Man Utd and Leeds to pay £18m+ each before he was 26, so there's your answer. What's that got to do with how much he's improved over the last 4 years though? I got the impression the Captain was implying that he felt Ferdinand has massively improved in the last 4 years. I disagree, he was quality before then and the transfer fees reflect that. Just because he was class before 4 years back doesn't mean to say he hasn't improved since then though. You don't say. Of course he's steadily improved as a player over the years, that's to be expected of a regular England and Man Utd player. The fact is that he of immense quality and class before he was Bougherra's age, and has only got better since. It's a strange comparison because Bougherra hasn't had anything close to as good a reputation as Ferdinand had before he was 26. Ferdinand hasn't improve "a lot" in the last 4 years because he didn't need to. I can't see such an average player as Bougherra is making a massive leap in quality any time soon. Apologies for the confusion. I just used Ferdinand as a comparison as I'd previously stated Bougherra reminded me of him somewhat. My point was that players- certainly centre halfs can improve a lot after 26. Its mainly that bit of nous they need. Bougherra was superb at Sheff Wed. If he had been English and produced those performances he would have cost 10m. He was good for Charlton before they went down and then moved to a Champions League club. He's a good player who doesn't need to improve much to be a good Premier League player. Just needs that experience that will come with games in a top league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Bougherra would be good cover for right back, centre half and holding midfield. For 3m, he has loads of potential. Physically he's superb and he's very good on the ball. A bit of nous and experience and he could be very good. Reminds me a bit of a young Rio- but not as good. He's 26. How much better can he get exactly? As a centre half. A lot I would say. I thought he was 24 tbh, but Rio is 30. Has he not improved in the last 4 years? He was good enough for Man Utd and Leeds to pay £18m+ each before he was 26, so there's your answer. What's that got to do with how much he's improved over the last 4 years though? I got the impression the Captain was implying that he felt Ferdinand has massively improved in the last 4 years. I disagree, he was quality before then and the transfer fees reflect that. Just because he was class before 4 years back doesn't mean to say he hasn't improved since then though. You don't say. Of course he's steadily improved as a player over the years, that's to be expected of a regular England and Man Utd player. The fact is that he of immense quality and class before he was Bougherra's age, and has only got better since. It's a strange comparison because Bougherra hasn't had anything close to as good a reputation as Ferdinand had before he was 26. Ferdinand hasn't improve "a lot" in the last 4 years because he didn't need to. I can't see such an average player as Bougherra is making a massive leap in quality any time soon. Would have preferred us to go for Cuellar last summer than Bougherra, but he would be ok for back up to the first team I would guess. The important question is - is he better than Taylor? Bougherra? I would say yes he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VegasToon Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Bougherra would be good cover for right back, centre half and holding midfield. For 3m, he has loads of potential. Physically he's superb and he's very good on the ball. A bit of nous and experience and he could be very good. Reminds me a bit of a young Rio- but not as good. He's 26. How much better can he get exactly? As a centre half. A lot I would say. I thought he was 24 tbh, but Rio is 30. Has he not improved in the last 4 years? He was good enough for Man Utd and Leeds to pay £18m+ each before he was 26, so there's your answer. What's that got to do with how much he's improved over the last 4 years though? I got the impression the Captain was implying that he felt Ferdinand has massively improved in the last 4 years. I disagree, he was quality before then and the transfer fees reflect that. Just because he was class before 4 years back doesn't mean to say he hasn't improved since then though. You don't say. Of course he's steadily improved as a player over the years, that's to be expected of a regular England and Man Utd player. The fact is that he of immense quality and class before he was Bougherra's age, and has only got better since. It's a strange comparison because Bougherra hasn't had anything close to as good a reputation as Ferdinand had before he was 26. Ferdinand hasn't improve "a lot" in the last 4 years because he didn't need to. I can't see such an average player as Bougherra is making a massive leap in quality any time soon. Would have preferred us to go for Cuellar last summer than Bougherra, but he would be ok for back up to the first team I would guess. The important question is - is he better than Taylor? Bougherra? I would say yes he is. Then lets get him for 3 mil and sell Taylor for 10 mil. I don't think any one would complain. Bassong and Coloccini are first choice any how. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I think 2 destroyers such as: PBD Chris Samba would be fantasic aquisitions and give us some much needed power The pair would probably command a joint fee of around 10-12 mil A full back and a creative CM would be a great window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Would love Samba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Why does everyone here love Samba? He seems bereft of any quality to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Samba and Bouba Diop would be great addition, this way i think we could go into the championship and find back-up fullbacks too. Colo-Samba and Diop-Barton/Guthrie would be a killer if you ask me, we need strong physical players but with a touch of flair, like Bouba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Samba and Bouba Diop would be great addition, this way i think we could go into the championship and find back-up fullbacks too. Colo-Samba and Diop-Barton/Guthrie would be a killer if you ask me, we need strong physical players but with a touch of flair, like Bouba. Samba would be. Papa has went off the boil from the days he was bossing it at Fulham. I saw somewhere Arry may be dumping Dos Santos, I know we have some people on here who have keen interest in Spurs, what has he been like in the games when he has played? I am guessing badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie2000 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I saw somewhere Arry may be dumping Dos Santos, I know we have some people on here who have keen interest in Spurs, what has he been like in the games when he has played? I am guessing badly. don't know how he has done in other games, but he made a big difference when he came on against us in the cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Dos santos is fucking shit. Always has been, bad attitude, overhyped piece of garbage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I saw somewhere Arry may be dumping Dos Santos, I know we have some people on here who have keen interest in Spurs, what has he been like in the games when he has played? I am guessing badly. don't know how he has done in other games, but he made a big difference when he came on against us in the cup. He was on the wing iirc, aye your right he played well had some nice touches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quailman Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Samba and Bouba Diop would be great addition, this way i think we could go into the championship and find back-up fullbacks too. Colo-Samba and Diop-Barton/Guthrie would be a killer if you ask me, we need strong physical players but with a touch of flair, like Bouba. Samba would be. Papa has went off the boil from the days he was bossing it at Fulham. I saw somewhere Arry may be dumping Dos Santos, I know we have some people on here who have keen interest in Spurs, what has he been like in the games when he has played? I am guessing badly. Bouba Diop has the same injury as Barton... could be out for weeks! What happened to the quick fix? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Bougherra would be good cover for right back, centre half and holding midfield. For 3m, he has loads of potential. Physically he's superb and he's very good on the ball. A bit of nous and experience and he could be very good. Reminds me a bit of a young Rio- but not as good. He's 26. How much better can he get exactly? As a centre half. A lot I would say. I thought he was 24 tbh, but Rio is 30. Has he not improved in the last 4 years? not really. His partner have however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Id take Dos Santos in a heartbeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jawesome Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Dos Santos aka Hugo Viana? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Why isn't Michael Johnson playing for City these days? Injured or just can't get a game? Try to reply without making a libelous claim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Why isn't Michael Johnson playing for City these days? Injured or just can't get a game? Off-field problems apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Why isn't Michael Johnson playing for City these days? Injured or just can't get a game? Off-field problems apparently. Oh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Why isn't Michael Johnson playing for City these days? Injured or just can't get a game? Off-field problems apparently. Abdominal problem but problems of mental fatigue have been mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Why isn't Michael Johnson playing for City these days? Injured or just can't get a game? Omgz you guyz sum 1 might sue for stating a rumour!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 For the people who somehow didn't realise, please refrain from making unsubstantiated claims that could get us into hot water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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