Dave Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Was an absolute disgrace. West Brom easily deserved a draw; we sat off them for the entire half and let them basically do what they wanted. Any side with a final ball (ie most in this league) would have stopped us getting the three points and probably gone on to win. They were there for the taking and after creating LOADS of chances first half we just surrendered all momentum. I'm delighted with the three points, but the tactics and performances after the break tonight ought to be seriously questioned IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Tiredness and lack of confidence played a major part in that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Agreed 100%. I spent the whole second half shitting myself. Simply not on against a team like West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Fcking terrible, JK will soon leanr that NUFC can not kill games off especially with our fragile team. Surrending the midfield and possetion and hoofing long balls to Ameobie. Shocking, just plain shocking. I thought we should have took Shola off left Martins on and banged an extra midfeilder on to shore it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 That second half really highlighted Kinnear's ineptitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Tiredness and lack of confidence played a major part in that Yeah, it wasn't good at all, but when you've been on that sort of run, it was inevitable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Kinnear may be a good motivator, but tactics wise he's just like Big Sam without all the fancy Prozone s***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Oh come on, who actually seriously thought it was over at half time? I knew they'd come back into it, but in my head I had it down as a 2-2 draw, we did well to hold them out (just!). Not so sure it was the tactics either at the beginning of the half, until they scored we were playing like we did first half. After they scored everyone sat back though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 A few stats from the game: Corners: 7 to us, 8 to them Shots: 9 to us, 13 to them Posession: 49% us, 51% WBA OK we won, but it could so easily have been the other way. And I don't buy the "Lacking confidence" thing. They're in the mire as much as us, but we're at home and 2-0 up. Where did they find confidence from to play so well in the second half when we could not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 It was truly frightening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 When we try to hold a lead it always goes tits up because there's absolutely fuck all organisation throughout the spine of the team, no fucker has a clue where to be, who to pick up anything. How many times did one ball cut out our whole midfield in that second half? Either the midfield needs to organise who will drop and cover that space or one of the centre backs needs to step up immediately and stop them from turning. Ideally the whole team should have stepped up ten yards and kept the pressure on them inside their own half. It completely kills me to see this scenario that happens time after time where we give the ball away up front and every fucker in sight just runs 15 yards backwards. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!?! It invites pressure and means when we get the ball there is no outlet, disgraceful, school boy stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Don't think it was really Kinnears fault. Players looked tired. Everything bounced off Ameobi back to their midfield too. Once Jonas and Barton are fit and Owen is back we will be much better in the second half. Need to try and keep the same defence together too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 We've got the vital 3pts, but this game has just made me so angry. The whole thing as an organisation is an utter shambolic disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Oh come on, who actually seriously thought it was over at half time? I knew they'd come back into it, but in my head I had it down as a 2-2 draw, we did well to hold them out (just!). Not so sure it was the tactics either at the beginning of the half, until they scored we were playing like we did first half. After they scored everyone sat back though. No we totally backed off and allowed them to pass the ball about. We looked happy to let them have it, we cant do that with our team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 yeah.. I don't like that.. at all.. we did it against Man City, against the mackems and we did tonight again after pretty much battering them the first half.. thank fuck it didn't cost us the points this time.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Not so sure it was the tactics either at the beginning of the half, until they scored we were playing like we did first half. Don't agree at all. They were all over us, and the goal wasn't a shock at all. Kinnear though has just said we shouldn't have sat back and defended a 2-0 lead, we should have gone out and caused our own problems. So it seems that it wasn't on his instructions that we were playing so deep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest timmy boy Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 If we do that against Villa they will rip us apart with Young,Agbonlahor,Barry etc running at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Don't think it was really Kinnears fault. Players looked tired. Subs were shocking again. We got lucky today. That's the most annoying thing about following this club, we seem to always rely on the other team fucking up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Oh come on, who actually seriously thought it was over at half time? I knew they'd come back into it, but in my head I had it down as a 2-2 draw, we did well to hold them out (just!). Not so sure it was the tactics either at the beginning of the half, until they scored we were playing like we did first half. After they scored everyone sat back though. No we totally backed off and allowed them to pass the ball about. We looked happy to let them have it, we cant do that with our team. After they scored we did, yes. Beforehand we didn't, why do you think they scored their goal so easily? And as painful as it was to watch, they didn't really create anything meaningful when we did it and at the end of the day, we got the 3 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Kinnear may be a good motivator, but tactics wise he's just like Big Sam without all the fancy Prozone s***. What? Do you expect JK to be a step up from Keegan or something? He is a caretaker manager. He's not here to turn us into the next barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Don't think it was really Kinnears fault. Players looked tired. Everything bounced off Ameobi back to their midfield too. Once Jonas and Barton are fit and Owen is back we will be much better in the second half. Need to try and keep the same defence together too. NO everyone knows you cant lash balls up to Ameobi, everyone in the game knows that. It hasn't stuck for 8 years FFS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Was the bad second half a case of bad tactics from the manager or poor/gutless player performances? A bit of both? I didn't see the match, but some of our players have made a habit of disappearing in difficult situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Was the bad second half a case of bad tactics from the manager or poor/gutless player performances? A bit of both? I didn't see the match, but some of our players have made a habit of disappearing in difficult situations. Manager advisng the team to sit back and hold the lead. A better team would have torn us a new back 4. Taylor scares the shit out of me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Are people here aware that we hadn't won in 7 games? You're never going to beat someone 3 or 4 nil when that's the case. The players were nervous, not sure how that's a fault of Kinnear. I've seen us play worse under Keegan, and I'll get slated for that but it's a fact. We weren't in the relegation zone for no reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 second half was as bad as anything i can remember, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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