Thespence Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Hey 'thespence', do you go to any away games? If so, do you stand or sit? Also, what is you're beef with people standing? Of course I stood at SAFC & Blackburn but nee one asked me to sit down & at most away grounds only employ old fuckers as stewards not DOORMEN. While were on the subject of away games our away fans has a lot scummy/charva bastards in its ranks as well as in recent times they have got us banned from Arkles near Anfield/Goodison & a decent bar near Bolton's ground. My beef is not with people standing but if you stand dont be shocked if you get chucked out. Personally I would start from the front row in the corner & work backwards with evictions. Why should the people in corner get the cheap tickets but then cause the club more trouble than any other part of ground? There's no trouble being caused in the singing section though, which 2nd half proved as a fact (when they left us alone). The stewards after "losing one of there men" probably took a tactical retreat. As Baggio said earlier the club could end up closing the area by making the prices in that part of ground similar to rest of the ground. Which is a shame for the people that wanted singing area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Hey 'thespence', do you go to any away games? If so, do you stand or sit? Also, what is you're beef with people standing? Of course I stood at SAFC & Blackburn but nee one asked me to sit down & at most away grounds only employ old fuckers as stewards not DOORMEN. While were on the subject of away games our away fans has a lot scummy/charva bastards in its ranks as well as in recent times they have got us banned from Arkles near Anfield/Goodison & a decent bar near Bolton's ground. My beef is not with people standing but if you stand dont be shocked if you get chucked out. Personally I would start from the front row in the corner & work backwards with evictions. Why should the people in corner get the cheap tickets but then cause the club more trouble than any other part of ground? News to me, cos me and my mates were drinking in Arkles before the Everton game this season and last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Hey 'thespence', do you go to any away games? If so, do you stand or sit? Also, what is you're beef with people standing? Of course I stood at SAFC & Blackburn but nee one asked me to sit down & at most away grounds only employ old fuckers as stewards not DOORMEN. While were on the subject of away games our away fans has a lot scummy/charva bastards in its ranks as well as in recent times they have got us banned from Arkles near Anfield/Goodison & a decent bar near Bolton's ground. My beef is not with people standing but if you stand dont be shocked if you get chucked out. Personally I would start from the front row in the corner & work backwards with evictions. Why should the people in corner get the cheap tickets but then cause the club more trouble than any other part of ground? News to me, cos me and my mates were drinking in Arkles before the Everton game this season and last season. Maybe the ban was lifted then but there was a ban after a few our lot started whacking eachother for something to do until kick off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 We're banned from the Cabbage Hall pub because it got trashed last season when we played Liverpool, not that it is relevant to the thread. Obviously we have some arseholes following us but we have a large amount of fans that follow the team away from home so it's, sadly, to be expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 ....but did anyone see what happened in the Singing Section against Spuds? I heard some bloke got nutted by one of the bouncers who were brought in to help steward the game. If so that's absolutely disgraceful.It's rediculous to think how victimised you get as a football fan, compared to any other "type" of person. I for one thought it was really impressive when both sets of fans sung "stand up if you love football" which was started in the Singing Section. It showed a bit of unity and that people are willing to put differences aside to fight for something they believe in. Don't get me wrong, people should be allowed to sit at the game if they desire, but you should be able to stand if you want too. ....but aye, anyon know exactly what happened with that bloke? Shows how pathetic it is when they're hiring bouncers to get people to sit down! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
O Neill Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Hey 'thespence', do you go to any away games? If so, do you stand or sit? Also, what is you're beef with people standing? Of course I stood at SAFC & Blackburn but nee one asked me to sit down & at most away grounds only employ old fuckers as stewards not DOORMEN. While were on the subject of away games our away fans has a lot scummy/charva bastards in its ranks as well as in recent times they have got us banned from Arkles near Anfield/Goodison & a decent bar near Bolton's ground. My beef is not with people standing but if you stand dont be shocked if you get chucked out. Personally I would start from the front row in the corner & work backwards with evictions. Why should the people in corner get the cheap tickets but then cause the club more trouble than any other part of ground? News to me, cos me and my mates were drinking in Arkles before the Everton game this season and last season. Maybe the ban was lifted then but there was a ban after a few our lot started whacking eachother for something to do until kick off. A few seasons back against Liverpool it was restricted to home supporters only and entry was permitted on producing a ticket for the home end. Still the same? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 ....but did anyone see what happened in the Singing Section against Spuds? I heard some bloke got nutted by one of the bouncers who were brought in to help steward the game. If so that's absolutely disgraceful.It's rediculous to think how victimised you get as a football fan, compared to any other "type" of person. I for one thought it was really impressive when both sets of fans sung "stand up if you love football" which was started in the Singing Section. It showed a bit of unity and that people are willing to put differences aside to fight for something they believe in. Don't get me wrong, people should be allowed to sit at the game if they desire, but you should be able to stand if you want too. ....but aye, anyon know exactly what happened with that bloke? Shows how pathetic it is when they're hiring bouncers to get people to sit down! As Nixon (steward at SJP) said last week the stewards have been TUPE across to firm called Phoenix-Eye. Phoenix-Eye also look after events at Newcastle Racecourse, which used to be the place Operations Director at Newcastle United David Williamson worked. David Williamson is quoted on the Phoenix-Eye website endorsing PE. Now the bit where the doormen come in is Phoenix-Eye sister company is Phoenix-Security. The P-S staff have been working at Shearers since it opened. Dont cry if your "bring back the noise" seats last for 1 season only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 ....but did anyone see what happened in the Singing Section against Spuds? I heard some bloke got nutted by one of the bouncers who were brought in to help steward the game. If so that's absolutely disgraceful.It's rediculous to think how victimised you get as a football fan, compared to any other "type" of person. I for one thought it was really impressive when both sets of fans sung "stand up if you love football" which was started in the Singing Section. It showed a bit of unity and that people are willing to put differences aside to fight for something they believe in. Don't get me wrong, people should be allowed to sit at the game if they desire, but you should be able to stand if you want too. ....but aye, anyon know exactly what happened with that bloke? Shows how pathetic it is when they're hiring bouncers to get people to sit down! As Nixon (steward at SJP) said last week the stewards have been TUPE across to firm called Phoenix-Eye. Phoenix-Eye also look after events at Newcastle Racecourse, which used to be the place Operations Director at Newcastle United David Williamson worked. David Williamson is quoted on the Phoenix-Eye website endorsing PE. Now the bit where the doormen come in is Phoenix-Eye sister company is Phoenix-Security. The P-S staff have been working at Shearers since it opened. Dont cry if your "bring back the noise" seats last for 1 season only. http://www.ghostfairy.com/pk014.JPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 ....but did anyone see what happened in the Singing Section against Spuds? I heard some bloke got nutted by one of the bouncers who were brought in to help steward the game. If so that's absolutely disgraceful.It's rediculous to think how victimised you get as a football fan, compared to any other "type" of person. I for one thought it was really impressive when both sets of fans sung "stand up if you love football" which was started in the Singing Section. It showed a bit of unity and that people are willing to put differences aside to fight for something they believe in. Don't get me wrong, people should be allowed to sit at the game if they desire, but you should be able to stand if you want too. ....but aye, anyon know exactly what happened with that bloke? Shows how pathetic it is when they're hiring bouncers to get people to sit down! As Nixon (steward at SJP) said last week the stewards have been TUPE across to firm called Phoenix-Eye. Phoenix-Eye also look after events at Newcastle Racecourse, which used to be the place Operations Director at Newcastle United David Williamson worked. David Williamson is quoted on the Phoenix-Eye website endorsing PE. Now the bit where the doormen come in is Phoenix-Eye sister company is Phoenix-Security. The P-S staff have been working at Shearers since it opened. Dont cry if your "bring back the noise" seats last for 1 season only. What's your problem with this like? A lot of people who sit/stand in the leazes corner were up in level 7 slightly further along last season before the prices were cut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 ....but did anyone see what happened in the Singing Section against Spuds? I heard some bloke got nutted by one of the bouncers who were brought in to help steward the game. If so that's absolutely disgraceful.It's rediculous to think how victimised you get as a football fan, compared to any other "type" of person. I for one thought it was really impressive when both sets of fans sung "stand up if you love football" which was started in the Singing Section. It showed a bit of unity and that people are willing to put differences aside to fight for something they believe in. Don't get me wrong, people should be allowed to sit at the game if they desire, but you should be able to stand if you want too. ....but aye, anyon know exactly what happened with that bloke? Shows how pathetic it is when they're hiring bouncers to get people to sit down! As Nixon (steward at SJP) said last week the stewards have been TUPE across to firm called Phoenix-Eye. Phoenix-Eye also look after events at Newcastle Racecourse, which used to be the place Operations Director at Newcastle United David Williamson worked. David Williamson is quoted on the Phoenix-Eye website endorsing PE. Now the bit where the doormen come in is Phoenix-Eye sister company is Phoenix-Security. The P-S staff have been working at Shearers since it opened. Dont cry if your "bring back the noise" seats last for 1 season only. http://www.ghostfairy.com/pk014.JPG I am not sure what means, feel free to PM & let me know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Singing "Stand up if you love football" is pretty stupid like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 ....but did anyone see what happened in the Singing Section against Spuds? I heard some bloke got nutted by one of the bouncers who were brought in to help steward the game. If so that's absolutely disgraceful.It's rediculous to think how victimised you get as a football fan, compared to any other "type" of person. I for one thought it was really impressive when both sets of fans sung "stand up if you love football" which was started in the Singing Section. It showed a bit of unity and that people are willing to put differences aside to fight for something they believe in. Don't get me wrong, people should be allowed to sit at the game if they desire, but you should be able to stand if you want too. ....but aye, anyon know exactly what happened with that bloke? Shows how pathetic it is when they're hiring bouncers to get people to sit down! As Nixon (steward at SJP) said last week the stewards have been TUPE across to firm called Phoenix-Eye. Phoenix-Eye also look after events at Newcastle Racecourse, which used to be the place Operations Director at Newcastle United David Williamson worked. David Williamson is quoted on the Phoenix-Eye website endorsing PE. Now the bit where the doormen come in is Phoenix-Eye sister company is Phoenix-Security. The P-S staff have been working at Shearers since it opened. Dont cry if your "bring back the noise" seats last for 1 season only. What's your problem with this like? A lot of people who sit/stand in the leazes corner were up in level 7 slightly further along last season before the prices were cut. The club creates an area for people, flogs cheap as chips tickets to create the noise & people act like Man United fans thinking they can stand up & do what they like & just like Manc fans it is all over zealous staff that are the issue. CRINGEWORTHY!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 ....but did anyone see what happened in the Singing Section against Spuds? I heard some bloke got nutted by one of the bouncers who were brought in to help steward the game. If so that's absolutely disgraceful.It's rediculous to think how victimised you get as a football fan, compared to any other "type" of person. I for one thought it was really impressive when both sets of fans sung "stand up if you love football" which was started in the Singing Section. It showed a bit of unity and that people are willing to put differences aside to fight for something they believe in. Don't get me wrong, people should be allowed to sit at the game if they desire, but you should be able to stand if you want too. ....but aye, anyon know exactly what happened with that bloke? Shows how pathetic it is when they're hiring bouncers to get people to sit down! As Nixon (steward at SJP) said last week the stewards have been TUPE across to firm called Phoenix-Eye. Phoenix-Eye also look after events at Newcastle Racecourse, which used to be the place Operations Director at Newcastle United David Williamson worked. David Williamson is quoted on the Phoenix-Eye website endorsing PE. Now the bit where the doormen come in is Phoenix-Eye sister company is Phoenix-Security. The P-S staff have been working at Shearers since it opened. Dont cry if your "bring back the noise" seats last for 1 season only. What's your problem with this like? A lot of people who sit/stand in the leazes corner were up in level 7 slightly further along last season before the prices were cut. The club creates an area for people, flogs cheap as chips tickets to create the noise & people act like Man United fans thinking they can stand up & do what they like & just like Manc fans it is all over zealous staff that are the issue. CRINGEWORTHY!!! But I saw this incident and the lad who got hit (who wasn't a bairn by the way but a middle aged bloke) was just standing up. Doing nowt else wrong. He was randomly picked out of all the people standing and aggressively told to sit down and when he asked why he got hit for it. Why does being able to buy cheap tickets mean that he deserves to be hit by someone? People have a choice of where to sit at a game. A lot of people chose to sit in the leazes corner as it was a chance to be able to sing and have some fun, instead of sitting as if you are in a library like a lot of other areas of the ground. Some people chose to sit there because it was cheaper than other areas, but the majority have been moved from the old leazes end level 7 round to the corner. The steward launched himself at the bloke to hit him. Over zealous staff? Aye, and then some. No-one has the right to hit someone for not sitting down at a football game, we are not in fucking Italy you know. What next? Hand the stewards batons, riot gear and cs spray and let them have a real dig at the fans? Bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 ....but did anyone see what happened in the Singing Section against Spuds? I heard some bloke got nutted by one of the bouncers who were brought in to help steward the game. If so that's absolutely disgraceful.It's rediculous to think how victimised you get as a football fan, compared to any other "type" of person. I for one thought it was really impressive when both sets of fans sung "stand up if you love football" which was started in the Singing Section. It showed a bit of unity and that people are willing to put differences aside to fight for something they believe in. Don't get me wrong, people should be allowed to sit at the game if they desire, but you should be able to stand if you want too. ....but aye, anyon know exactly what happened with that bloke? Shows how pathetic it is when they're hiring bouncers to get people to sit down! As Nixon (steward at SJP) said last week the stewards have been TUPE across to firm called Phoenix-Eye. Phoenix-Eye also look after events at Newcastle Racecourse, which used to be the place Operations Director at Newcastle United David Williamson worked. David Williamson is quoted on the Phoenix-Eye website endorsing PE. Now the bit where the doormen come in is Phoenix-Eye sister company is Phoenix-Security. The P-S staff have been working at Shearers since it opened. Dont cry if your "bring back the noise" seats last for 1 season only. What's your problem with this like? A lot of people who sit/stand in the leazes corner were up in level 7 slightly further along last season before the prices were cut. The club creates an area for people, flogs cheap as chips tickets to create the noise & people act like Man United fans thinking they can stand up & do what they like & just like Manc fans it is all over zealous staff that are the issue. CRINGEWORTHY!!! But I saw this incident and the lad who got hit (who wasn't a bairn by the way but a middle aged bloke) was just standing up. Doing nowt else wrong. He was randomly picked out of all the people standing and aggressively told to sit down and when he asked why he got hit for it. Why does being able to buy cheap tickets mean that he deserves to be hit by someone? People have a choice of where to sit at a game. A lot of people chose to sit in the leazes corner as it was a chance to be able to sing and have some fun, instead of sitting as if you are in a library like a lot of other areas of the ground. Some people chose to sit there because it was cheaper than other areas, but the majority have been moved from the old leazes end level 7 round to the corner. The steward launched himself at the bloke to hit him. Over zealous staff? Aye, and then some. No-one has the right to hit someone for not sitting down at a football game, we are not in fucking Italy you know. What next? Hand the stewards batons, riot gear and cs spray and let them have a real dig at the fans? Bollocks. You're being a bit OTT really. If people didn't stand all of the time, there wouldn't be any bother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The steward in question got carted off by the Police which is the correct thing. The club was trying to create singing area, not a standing section. Hopefully warnings will start getting dished out & then bans. AS IT WOULD BE A SHAME THAT THE AREA WAS ENDED BECAUSE MORONS COULD NOT FOLLOW THE CLUBS & LOCAL AUTHORITY RULES!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 If they make people sit down, it won't be a singing area anyway because its hard to get an atmosphere going sitting down. Sitting down in the hope that they keep the section will be pointless, because without standing up and singing, it might as well be any other part of the ground. I'd prefere everyone to keep doing what they're doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Those rule are stupid though and are just about keeping people 'under control', nothing to do with safety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 If they make people sit down, it won't be a singing area anyway because its hard to get an atmosphere going sitting down. That is nonsense though, i can sing sitting down. I can speak and walk at the same time too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I can sing and sit down as well, but its alot easier when standing up. The atmosphere wouldnt be as good if everyone sat down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Surely you mean it would be 'better', not 'easier' ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I can sing and sit down as well, but its alot easier when standing up. The atmosphere wouldnt be as good if everyone sat down. Easier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 LMFAO The stupidity of some of your arguments are hilarious. Fair enough I'm not going to change any points of view with this ran, because you're probably stubborn old fuckers who have forgot what it was like when you used to go as a young'n but aye, anyways.... The people backing up the stewards on this one are all either employed or have been previously employed by the club as stewards, also they have somehting against the bring back the noise lads. It is NOT law to remain seated in football stadia, however the club can suffer fines and risk getting the ground closed due to losing its safety certificate. Which I must admit I don't wish to happen. However, how many of you whinged about Ashley and wanted him out? If he gets fined, if the ground gets closed and he doesn't get ticket sales, maybe he'll have to fuck off slightly sharper? Double standards if you ask me when half of you probably complained about people buying a fucking pie at half time because you wanted him out. When our away fans stand everywhere else in the country, there is never a problem, similar with other fans I have seen travel away. I used to go into the unofficial singing section last year, where the Toon Ultras sat/stood and there was never any bother, unfortunately some more charvas decided to tag onto this. However, should only middle-class people be able to attend? Should they fuck. Check the history of the game, and you will find it is/was a working class sport for working class people, so why the fuck should less fortunate people not be allowed to support the team they love? These so called scummy people have been going for years, even since you were a kid, when there was even more violence and hooliganism. Since when was attacking someone for not sitting down acceptable? When is anything ever going to change until people rebel, and protest. The singing of "Stand up if you love football" was a stroke of genius from who ever began singing it on the spot, it was veyr basic, caught on quick and it united both sets of fans in their love of the game. It worked, really quickly too. For anyone who has sat in the singing section this year, they can clarify the effect it has made, it's getting stronger and stronger and louder and louder. People who have never sat there seem to have a fear of accepting how good it is/can be. The largest problem about this standing issue is the government and laws about standing at football games. How come you can stand for Rod Stewart in the North West Corner of St James' but not for Newcastle United? At the end of the day I am sure a good 75% of those standing in the singing section would happily admit people have every right to sit and watch if they choose, they just believe they should have the right to stand if they like too. Considering the likes of thespence and Liam Oh were PROBABLY the ones criticising the Toon Ultras for their narrow mindedness and slagging off other fans, I think you need to take a good look at yourselves first. As it would appear the "bring back the noise" lads are the ones creating a unity with not only their on fans but other ses of fans too not causing a divide like you PROBABLY originally, and still do claim. Apologies if I have offended either of the members mentioned, I just think your hatred for these lads who want to make a difference is extremely annoying, ignorant and damn right pathetic. Apart from that have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnMags Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I understand what you're saying about it being against regulations and I can't argue against that fact. The main point for people sitting there, though, is that it is pretty much 100% of people in the area stand up and there are no problems amongst fans (i.e. getting in the way of other fans) as everyone seems to want to stand up. Also, unless it was just a throwaway comment that you don't want to stand by, your comment about it only being poor/scummy people sitting there makes you ignorant and makes you come across as extremely unintelligent. The 'singing section', as mentioned by others, is on the whole people who used to sit in the main part of Leazes Level 7 who were moved due to the new away section. The club set the prices for this new section; are people going to request to pay more for sitting there?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The steward in question got carted off by the Police which is the correct thing. The club was trying to create singing area, not a standing section. Hopefully warnings will start getting dished out & then bans. AS IT WOULD BE A SHAME THAT THE AREA WAS ENDED BECAUSE MORONS COULD NOT FOLLOW THE CLUBS & LOCAL AUTHORITY RULES!!!! You obviously include stewards assaulting people in that? Yes you're right, BUNCH OF MORONS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane2005 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 For all of those morons in this topic who keep saying , cheap seats this , cheap seats that have you really got a clue about it. Some fans like myself renewed my season ticket knowing I was going to be moved into the " singing section " , do you really think I chose to sit there because there are cheaper seats there. I dont think so like . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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