steve_69 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Carroll doesn't want to leave this club, he's leaving his dream of playing for Newcastle United and has just become an England international. The only thing he could get elsewhere that he isn't getting here is European football but there's plenty of time for that. No doubt Fergy and Arry will try and get their players to turn his head but I reckon they'll be wasting their time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 It's fucking Jose we need to be getting a new contract for man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 He's already on a long contract. Why would we give him a pay rise? He's a Newcastle player whether he likes it or not. Not in the real world my friend If he is not being given what he thinks he deserves, or what he is being offered elsewhere, he can negotiate a deal whenever he likes whether the club like it or not He knows his value Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 He's already on a long contract. Why would we give him a pay rise? He's a Newcastle player whether he likes it or not. Not in the real world my friend If he is not being given what he thinks he deserves, or what he is being offered elsewhere, he can negotiate a deal whenever he likes whether the club like it or not He knows his value This - sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I think it is sad when a good young talent appears that the media seem determined to move the player to a "bigger" club as soon as possible. Carroll has potentially 15 years ahead of him if he looks after himself (a big if in this case) and stays fit. Why can't they leave him to enjoy playing for his hometown club for a couple of years before trying to move him to another club. It is hard to believe that back in August, we were more concerned about whether he could maintain his form in the Premier League rather than worrying about whether we would be able to hold on to him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I think it is sad when a good young talent appears that the media seem determined to move the player to a "bigger" club as soon as possible. Carroll has potentially 15 years ahead of him if he looks after himself (a big if in this case) and stays fit. Why can't they leave him to enjoy playing for his hometown club for a couple of years before trying to move him to another club. It is hard to believe that back in August, we were more concerned about whether he could maintain his form in the Premier League rather than worrying about whether we would be able to hold on to him because it's easier and better for the press to have the same 4 or 5 clubs up there all the time. it's easier to build up a smaller group of players to cultivate and fawn over as celebrities than to have to keep an eye on many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiemonster Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 To be honest, the more I think about this I reckon we should let him go if Spurs are willing to pay us a ridiculous amount. No denying he has played well this season, but we haven't missed him that much since he was injured. If Spurs came in with say £20m + Kranjcar I think we should snap their hands off. £20m would buy a decent replacement striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 To be honest, the more I think about this I reckon we should let him go if Spurs are willing to pay us a ridiculous amount. No denying he has played well this season, but we haven't missed him that much since he was injured. If Spurs came in with say £20m + Kranjcar I think we should snap their hands off. £20m would buy a decent replacement striker. In a word, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiemonster Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 To be honest, the more I think about this I reckon we should let him go if Spurs are willing to pay us a ridiculous amount. No denying he has played well this season, but we haven't missed him that much since he was injured. If Spurs came in with say £20m + Kranjcar I think we should snap their hands off. £20m would buy a decent replacement striker. In a word, no. What has he done though? He's had one half decent season in the premier league, but I reckon defenders are going to get wise to him next season and he won't be a £30m player then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Glad you aint running our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 To be honest, the more I think about this I reckon we should let him go if Spurs are willing to pay us a ridiculous amount. No denying he has played well this season, but we haven't missed him that much since he was injured. If Spurs came in with say £20m + Kranjcar I think we should snap their hands off. £20m would buy a decent replacement striker. I think £20m would buy a decent striker, maybe 2 but if we keep him for a few years and he continues to develop, he'll be worth double or maybe treble that. More importantly, if we keep him, he might fire us into Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 To be honest, the more I think about this I reckon we should let him go if Spurs are willing to pay us a ridiculous amount. No denying he has played well this season, but we haven't missed him that much since he was injured. If Spurs came in with say £20m + Kranjcar I think we should snap their hands off. £20m would buy a decent replacement striker. f***ing hell man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I think defenders already know what he is about, but he is simply unplayable when he is on form. A 6ft4 (or whatever he is) striker isn't exactly something you can play against easily, and he's more than just a tall, powerful striker he can actually finish clinically. Aside from that he is young and English, which ultimately adds to his price tag. By the end of the season he'll be worth £30million and 3 or 4 clubs will have their eye on him. Krancjar would be a useful addition but if he is priced at £3million, that's £23million for Caroll. If Bent goes for £24million, then our chances of bringing in someone equally as good as Caroll for £20million would be some task. No doubt Ashley would pocket some of the cash too. Carroll is excellent and is a massive part of the spine of our team, we should be building around the likes of him, Barton, Nolan, Coloccini and Williamson not breaking it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiemonster Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Haha, I guess this isn't a popular view then I think £30m is an obscene amount for someone who is basically unproven at the highest level. Liverpool only paid about £20m for Torres and he was one of the most highly rated players in the world at the time. Andy Carroll is a good player, but there is no way he is a £30m player based on half a season. Everyone has their price and I think that would be more that acceptable for Carroll. Also I meant to say that one of our major problems is squad depth. We need a strong overall squad, but with plenty of strength in depth to cover suspensions and the like. We don't have that now - we were down to the bare bones yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Haha, I guess this isn't a popular view then I think £30m is an obscene amount for someone who is basically unproven at the highest level. Liverpool only paid about £20m for Torres and he was one of the most highly rated players in the world at the time. Andy Carroll is a good player, but there is no way he is a £30m player based on half a season. Everyone has their price and I think that would be more that acceptable for Carroll. It's only me that disagrees mate. I think you're right about the unproven stuff, but if he were to finish the season the way he has started, I think it would be safe to say he was proven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Haha, I guess this isn't a popular view then I think £30m is an obscene amount for someone who is basically unproven at the highest level. Liverpool only paid about £20m for Torres and he was one of the most highly rated players in the world at the time. Andy Carroll is a good player, but there is no way he is a £30m player based on half a season. Everyone has their price and I think that would be more that acceptable for Carroll. Carroll's Premier League goalscoring record is better than Torres' was in La Liga, for what it's worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Curls Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I love how everyone thinks players will get wise about carrolls game, I would of thought this happens with most strikers. Thing is Andy has many attributes not just a head to aim at, he's not gonna shrink anytime soon so he's still gonna keep winning balls regardless ala crouchy, he's got it all (almost) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 It's fucking Jose we need to be getting a new contract for man! And Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Right now he's priceless. Something different in English football and a potential match winner for many years to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I love how everyone thinks players will get wise about carrolls game, I would of thought this happens with most strikers. Thing is Andy has many attributes not just a head to aim at, he's not gonna shrink anytime soon so he's still gonna keep winning balls regardless ala crouchy, he's got it all (almost) Defenders can get wise to it all they want, it just doesn't mean they'll be able to stop it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 When he develops a decent dribbling ability, he'll be unstoppable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 When he develops a decent dribbling ability, he'll be unstoppable. This is probably the least focussed skill amongst English footballers, the best we've got to show is Joe Cole and that says it all, so I'm not holding my breath on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 No need for Carroll to go off on England duty to wake up to the idea of bigger wages when he's got Alan Smith sat next to him on 60k a week. On the idea of selling Carroll and getting in a decent replacement, you simply won't get another striker like him. He's different - thus the excitement surrounding him after just half a full top-flight season. As someone said on this thread, he is unplayable if used correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 To be honest, the more I think about this I reckon we should let him go if Spurs are willing to pay us a ridiculous amount. No denying he has played well this season, but we haven't missed him that much since he was injured. If Spurs came in with say £20m + Kranjcar I think we should snap their hands off. £20m would buy a decent replacement striker. No offense, but what a load of bollocks. He is the one player we would not be able to replace. He will only get better as well if he carries on the way he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiemonster Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I don't agree - no player is irreplaceable. Man U had the nearest when they had Ronaldo, but they've coped fine since he left. I'd prefer depth than relying on one player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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