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Tiote and Enrique will be agitating for moves sooner rather than later. Today sends out a hugely negative message to our current playing staff that the club has very little ambition in chasing success.

 

Exactly. The circumstances don't even matter.

 

indeed. all about the bigger picture. Given, N'Zogbia, Milner, Bassong, Carroll. the pattern has now been set. I think it is reasonable to guess that this time next year or even in the summer we will be having this same conversation about someone like Tiote or Enrique. They'll have caught the eye of a bigger club, we'll have negotiated hard for a big fee, and maybe they'll have put in a transfer request to escape an unambitious club with haphazard ownership. and the same cretins will come out and defend ashley and say "But Tiote/Enrique/Barton/Ben Arfa requested a transfer."

 

Do i blame Ashley for taking £35m rising to £40m? No, it's a great offer.

Do i blame Carroll for putting in a request and moving? No, it's a great opportunity for him and we're not exactly an enticing proposition.

 

However that shouldn't obscure the fact that under Ashley's tenure he's created a club that players like carroll want to escape from at the first sign of a better offer.

 

And let's be honest here, had the club not wanted to sell Carroll, then no matter what Carroll wants, he would've been going nowhere.

 

The club negotiated with liverpool all day, cancelled press conferences and so on - it seems fair to assume that they spent that time negotiating for the best price, knocking back the lower bids saying "not good enough" rather than"not for sale". some people are acting as if the only reason Carroll is going to Liverpool is because he put a transfer request in which seems, frankly, deluded. that happening just rubber stamped or speeded up the process, and gave the club a convenient excuse to take some heat off them.

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think carroll been told to had a transfer req by the club .so theres not as much backlash on ashley etc.what uz think?

 

Carroll is a mong magnet, he doesn't have to do something like this to attract even more attention.  :lol:

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I'd guess that Damien Comolli, that f***ing smug c*** is the key playa behind the deal..

 

Tapping up Carroll was probably the first thing he did in his job.. well f***ing done you french c***

 

What pisses me off now is that it is f***ing Liverpool.. we had a better first team than them till yesterday.. FFS!

..And then The Glorious Cop, Stevie G The Spirit of Shankly and all that crap.. Always loathed Liverpool, more than the mackems, more than any other club and f***ing ANDY goes there. My favourite f***ing player..

 

Completely devastated by this.

 

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Will be interesting to see how Carroll copes with the pressure mind. Most expensive English player ever, England's number 9, at an underachieving club. He needs to score at least 6 between now and May. Here there was little pressure. Lower mid-table would have been accepted, the fans loved him, etc. Liverpool, they won't settle for Europa League every year, he's now going to have to score 20 a season to justify the pricetag.

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What the fuck happened overnight? Without reading 100 pages, how did this unfold?

 

Liverpool bid somewhere around 30m, we say no.

Liverpool bid 35m (plus add ons), we say no.

Andy Carroll submits transfer request.

We accept the 35m + add ons.

Liverpool and Andy Carroll agree terms.

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#Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners

 

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still no reasoning behind why he'd do that.

 

This is how it went.

 

MA It's a lot fahkin money Dekks.

Dekka Yeah, take it Guv

MA What about the mongs outside?

Carroll I'll put in a request...

MA Eh? What?

Dekka Err he means we'll come aht smelling of roses boss...

MA At right.

Carroll Keep me bonus tho aye..

MA (*Already on phone to Doglesh)..

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#Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners

 

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So we said we sell at £35 million. Liverpool bid £35 million. Carroll puts transfer request in disgusted that we are going to accept a bid for him.

 

I can't work that out.

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Transfer request was pr for Ashley. Carroll agreed for £££ and because at that point he had probably made up his mind.

 

How?  Carroll give's up his 10% of the transfer deal.  So that makes no sense at all.

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Not sure why the conspiracy about Carroll's transfer request. He wanted to go, and NUFC have said that they won't accept a bid unless you hand in a transfer request. So he does it.

 

The idea that a rumour that NUFC would accept a bid of £35m upset him so much that he then decided to change his mind and go (and agree personal terms in 15minutes) is absurd. His agent will have been dealing with Liverpool all day.

 

Would be a laugh if he failed the medical.

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Transfer request was pr for Ashley. Carroll agreed for £££ and because at that point he had probably made up his mind.

 

Carroll handing in a transfer request will have cost him a fortune, he hasn't done that for PR.

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Gary speed had a bid accepted for him behind his manager's back. If a bid is accepted for you, you go. Simple as. It's a pride thing, it's a money thing. The only time I've seen a player reject a chance to move to a better club was kaka, and that was because he was uncertain about city.

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#Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners

 

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So why was a £35m bid rejected then..

 

It wasnt. They released that we rejected their 2nd offer & gave no details on what that was, we may well have accepted a 3rd by that point & been calming a backlash. Its common sense.

 

Common sense?, really? ???  Its common sense to say that we hadn't rejected a bid, because we probably, maybe, perhaps had accepted a third bid, so Carroll then asked to leave instead of just leaving and picking up his part of the transfer?  That's common sense now?

 

You've tangled up your own thoughts there.

 

Im purely saying that we simply released that we'd turned down a 2nd offer. The idea that this meant a deal was off the table or hadnt already been agreed since that point is all assumptions. David craig was making a point of saying Ashley was resisting selling as much as he could, as if he was "trying his best" & a further way to back this up would be to leak that we'd turned down 2 offers in a row.

 

This purely suggests that we were trying hard to keep him, which is what you're being lead to think.

 

The fact that we made no attempt to take any deal off the table & were quiet all day suggests the opposite.

 

Still no explanation as to why he handed in a transfer request.

 

Does it not maker more sense that we actually DID reject the bids, Caroll decides he wants a payrise - hands in a transfer request, leaving little option but to accept bid?

 

Without an official transfer request Carroll would get a cut of the transfer fee. If he wanted to go, NUFC will have only sanctioned it if he put in a request and relinquished this cut. It's pretty simple.

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#Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners

 

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still no reasoning behind why he'd do that.

 

This is how it went.

 

MA It's a lot fahkin money Dekks.

Dekka Yeah, take it Guv

MA What about the mongs outside?

Carroll I'll put in a request...

MA Eh? What?

Dekka Err he means we'll come aht smelling of roses boss...

MA At right.

Carroll Keep me bonus tho aye..

MA (*Already on phone to Doglesh)..

aye righto parky.
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