Wullie Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Take away the £35 million from the carroll sale (which may or may not be re-invested back into the club. we'll have to see), and those stats don't look anywhere near as nasty as they do there mind. Again factor in our relegation which required a bit of a fire sale and it is a bit of a myth, like. I don;t know what the net profit was for transfers during Ashleys reign before our relegation, but i'm sure it wasn't too bad. Those are pre-Carroll I believe. I might be wrong but I'm fairly sure that includes the Carroll sale. We were definitely higher up the table last time I checked. Fair enough, thought UV had said at one point that they were pre-AC but I can't be arsed to check. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Aye, you can get the up to date ones here: http://www.transferleague.co.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Whatever happened on 31st January and whatever the reasons behind each decision, Carroll handed in a transfer request and signed on the dotted line for Liverpool. Whether Ashley really wanted the money or not, whether Pardew wanted Carroll gone or not, whether Carroll actually wanted to go or not, all the management did was accept an offer that they felt they couldn't turn down and protect their position with the rest of the team in terms of contract demands (there was a team to consider after all, NUFC doesn't just revolve around Carroll). It was Carroll's decision right along the line, from signing the request to signing the Liverpool contract. If we sell Enrique/Barton/Tiote in the summer and they can give proof that they were forced out then I'll hold up my hands and plead to join the Wullie/Colocho revolution. Until then, I won't fully blame/criticise the regime for this transfer. Proof that they were forced out? i.e. refusing to sign a transfer request or it being known that they weren't wanted. And how will that proof manifest itself? If the club accept an offer that surely that alone is proof that they're not wanted. I can't say that it is tbh. It's harder to prove you weren't wanted, but not signing a transfer request is relatively easy. Easier than Carroll made out anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Take away the £35 million from the carroll sale (which may or may not be re-invested back into the club. we'll have to see), and those stats don't look anywhere near as nasty as they do there mind. Again factor in our relegation which required a bit of a fire sale and it is a bit of a myth, like. I don;t know what the net profit was for transfers during Ashleys reign before our relegation, but i'm sure it wasn't too bad. Those are pre-Carroll I believe. Pre-relegation, this is Mike's transfer list (according to this site http://www.footbo.com/Teams/Newcastle/Transfers) The ones in bold represent who we know went for reletavely big money, the others are all speculation, or 3 million etc. The combined ammount in bold for bought is roughly £40 million, and sold is roughly £30 million. I don't know how accurate it is or anything, but pre-relegation he was hardly selling withought investing back into the squad. IN Nolan Taylor Jonas Guthrie Bassong Coloccini Xisco Tozer Viduka Barton Smith Rozenhal Enrique Faye OUT N'zogbia Given Rammage Carr Rozenhal Faye Milner Parker Bramble Sibierski Moore O'brien Gate Dyer Huntington Solano Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 did the math based on that sites figures what wullie posted was including carroll transfer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 I can't see this posted anywhere yet... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-england-tyne-13053716 I can't believe they got my age wrong! I'm 36 not 33! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 A man has been arrested on suspicion of setting fire to Liverpool striker Andy Carroll's car. The ex-Newcastle player was at the house of his then captain Kevin Nolan, in Ponteland, Northumberland, when his Range Rover was set alight in October. Police said a man, 33, from Whitley Bay, was currently in police custody in connection with the incident. On Monday Carroll, 22, scored his first goals for Liverpool, against Manchester City, after his £35m transfer. Carroll moved from Newcastle to the Merseyside club in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Aye, you can get the up to date ones here: http://www.transferleague.co.uk/ According to that we have made roughly £50 million post relegation (including Carroll sale), pre-relegation we invested roughly £5 million. All in all if we were to go by Mike Ashleys previous tenture in the premiership, all of the Carroll money AND more will be invested into the squad. (Ofcourse I realise that this is very unlikely, like.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Cannot belive Sunderland have a higher net spend than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Cannot belive Sunderland have a higher net spend than us. why not? first there was keano wasting shit loads now brucey boy wasting shit loads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Cannot belive Sunderland have a higher net spend than us. For 2-3 years they had no-one worth selling and spunked a ton on average players. Their net spend was always likely to be high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Ugh, honestly this whole identical bullshit shouting match that seems to be creeping up in every single thread since February is getting tedious as fuck. It's like the whole fucking forum has turned into NE5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Ugh, honestly this whole identical bullshit shouting match that seems to be creeping up in every single thread since February is getting tedious as fuck. It's like the whole fucking forum has turned into NE5. Go then. You can't blame people for seeing things the way they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 yup, tedium beyond belief. Rarely bother in FC because of it. Though I can't say I think this is a new thing, if it wasn't this it'd be something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 yup, tedium beyond belief. Rarely bother in FC because of it. Though I can't say I think this is a new thing, if it wasn't this it'd be something else. Ugh, honestly this whole identical bullshit shouting match that seems to be creeping up in every single thread since February is getting tedious as fuck. It's like the whole fucking forum has turned into NE5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Ugh, honestly this whole identical bullshit shouting match that seems to be creeping up in every single thread since February is getting tedious as f***. It's like the whole f***ing forum has turned into NE5. Go then. You can't blame people for seeing things the way they are. And you're the fucking worst of the lot. At least NE5 didn't seem to be magnetically attracted to every single thing I post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 'Fans question club's ambition and direction after selling homegrown star striker at first available opportunity' shocker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Just because it's true (or even if it's true) doesn't mean it deserves 3209438209482 pages of cyclical bullshit Dave. You of all people should understand this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 ..he posted, in the Andy Carroll thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 ... for the 300,000th time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 ..he posted, in the Andy Carroll thread. ..he posted, clearly without understanding a single word in oldtype's post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 This is exactly like the new board/old board bullshit that NE5 got banned for, only on a much wider scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Why exactly are you in this thread (or on this forum at all) if it bores you so much? Fairly easily avoided. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 If that's the sort of argument you've been reduced to making I think my point is fairly evident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Just because it's true (or even if it's true) doesn't mean it deserves 3209438209482 pages of cyclical bullshit Dave. You of all people should understand this. it deserves as much discussion as the members of the forum think it deserves. do you think that people find the intentions of the owner of nufc important enough to talk about this much because it DOESNT impact everything about the way the club is run and what our fortunes are likely to be over the coming years? it's pretty important stuff if you're interested in the club doing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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