Kazenga Lua Lua

[Tooj]

Great reason not to put the youngsters in, cos the one's in the past weren't good enough. LuaLua needs to be given a chance to show what he can do. Edgar keeps getting games, Taylor keeps getting games. Why? They have proven that they are not good enough.

 

Eh? I never said it was a reason at all not to play the kids at the moment. I've never said Lua-Lua isn't good enough. But ok then. Whereas you've said that we don't give youngsters a chance yet as shown by palnese we do and they've proven not to be good enough of which I commented on.

 

We, Premiership fans and clubs as a whole, do not give youngsters a chance. There are four teams within the premier league that can state they do. Everton, Villa, Boro and West Ham. Look at the statistics, it is well documented that youngsters are not being allowed to progress into premiership teams.

 

So Arsenal don't give youngsters a chance?

[Guest toonlass]

Great reason not to put the youngsters in, cos the one's in the past weren't good enough. LuaLua needs to be given a chance to show what he can do. Edgar keeps getting games, Taylor keeps getting games. Why? They have proven that they are not good enough.

 

Eh? I never said it was a reason at all not to play the kids at the moment. I've never said Lua-Lua isn't good enough. But ok then. Whereas you've said that we don't give youngsters a chance yet as shown by palnese we do and they've proven not to be good enough of which I commented on.

 

We, Premiership fans and clubs as a whole, do not give youngsters a chance. There are four teams within the premier league that can state they do. Everton, Villa, Boro and West Ham. Look at the statistics, it is well documented that youngsters are not being allowed to progress into premiership teams.

 

So Arsenal don't give youngsters a chance?

 

Not usually their own that they bring through the academy. Wenger buys in youngsters from elsewhere.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

Great reason not to put the youngsters in, cos the one's in the past weren't good enough. LuaLua needs to be given a chance to show what he can do. Edgar keeps getting games, Taylor keeps getting games. Why? They have proven that they are not good enough.

 

Eh? I never said it was a reason at all not to play the kids at the moment. I've never said Lua-Lua isn't good enough. But ok then. Whereas you've said that we don't give youngsters a chance yet as shown by palnese we do and they've proven not to be good enough of which I commented on.

 

We, Premiership fans and clubs as a whole, do not give youngsters a chance. There are four teams within the premier league that can state they do. Everton, Villa, Boro and West Ham. Look at the statistics, it is well documented that youngsters are not being allowed to progress into premiership teams.

 

So Arsenal don't give youngsters a chance?

 

They sign the best youngsters for decent fees, I know what you're getting at, but it's not quite the same.

[Guest optimistic nit]

Great reason not to put the youngsters in, cos the one's in the past weren't good enough. LuaLua needs to be given a chance to show what he can do. Edgar keeps getting games, Taylor keeps getting games. Why? They have proven that they are not good enough.

 

Eh? I never said it was a reason at all not to play the kids at the moment. I've never said Lua-Lua isn't good enough. But ok then. Whereas you've said that we don't give youngsters a chance yet as shown by palnese we do and they've proven not to be good enough of which I commented on.

 

We, Premiership fans and clubs as a whole, do not give youngsters a chance. There are four teams within the premier league that can state they do. Everton, Villa, Boro and West Ham. Look at the statistics, it is well documented that youngsters are not being allowed to progress into premiership teams.

 

thats mostly down to the riddiculous knee-jerking success-demanding fans of the modern game though. they can't really afford too.

[Guest toonlass]

Great reason not to put the youngsters in, cos the one's in the past weren't good enough. LuaLua needs to be given a chance to show what he can do. Edgar keeps getting games, Taylor keeps getting games. Why? They have proven that they are not good enough.

 

Eh? I never said it was a reason at all not to play the kids at the moment. I've never said Lua-Lua isn't good enough. But ok then. Whereas you've said that we don't give youngsters a chance yet as shown by palnese we do and they've proven not to be good enough of which I commented on.

 

We, Premiership fans and clubs as a whole, do not give youngsters a chance. There are four teams within the premier league that can state they do. Everton, Villa, Boro and West Ham. Look at the statistics, it is well documented that youngsters are not being allowed to progress into premiership teams.

 

thats mostly down to the riddiculous knee-jerking success-demanding fans of the modern game though. they can't really afford too.

 

Exactly.

[WhatTheFunk]

Perhaps yesterday's game wasn't one for LuaLua to start, but look at Everton. Their 18 year old Dan Gosling scored yesterday, bet we here about him in the future. Villa blooded Gabbi Agbonlahore at a young age and he has proved right. The problem with Newcastle is that they never give their youngsters a chance.

 

huntington, ramage, edgar, pattison, o`brien, shola, chopra, taylor.. all given chances.. just not good enough.

 

Wouldn't matter if they were. We demand instant success so they would not be allowed a chance.

 

Do we? And what about Steven Taylor? The amount of chances he's been given off certain quarters of the fans due to his local status. At the end of the day most of the kids we've produced lately haven't been good enough, that's why they haven't been given a chance.

 

With Steven Taylor though. you could see from early on that he has the potential to be a top flight footballer. With Ramage, Chopra, Pattison and O'Brien you could see something was missing.

 

Shola rode the wave of manager instability, and acquitted himself quite well with a decent if unspectacular scoring record.

 

Tbh though, I really thought something would come of Huntington. Maybe his attitude wasn't that of a pro, and he was moved on.

 

I quite like the look of Kazenga, and want to see him given more game time, especially as a 2nd half sub where he can inject a dose of pace and enthusiasm into the side no matter who we're playing.

 

Would also like to see Harper wished well and released, so we can start seeing what Krul and Forster are all about.

[Pilko]

LuaLua should always be on our bench, and put on with 20mins to go to run at tired defences. You know it makes sense.

[Guest toonlass]

LuaLua should always be on our bench, and put on with 20mins to go to run at tired defences. You know it makes sense.

 

[sicsfingeredmong]

LuaLua should always be on our bench, and put on with 20mins to go to run at tired defences. You know it makes sense.

 

And it's the ideal way to blood the lad, without the harness of being closely checked during a game's more physical opening stages.

 

His older brother - as a dribbling & quick ball-carrier - at times had a major impact while moonlighting on the flanks on the counter, and a few late season games in season 01-02 spring to mind. Notably one jinking run down the left flank, leading to an assist to Bernard. That game may have been away to Derby if i recall correctly, when we put them to the sword late on.

 

I'd say that he appears to be more creative, to have more vision/or an eye for a final ball than Tressor after beating his man. I see him as somebody who can inflict some damage around the bylines, with the likes of Jonas & Guthrie inside and his elder brother was no slouch in this department. Especially when the former floats inside. Barton, when fit, is intelligent with his late off-the-ball movement/runs into the box. These just a players who can benefit from having such a player on the pitch/the right flank - another being Owen. N'Zogbia's inside play - off the ball - as a wideman is an under-recognized strength imo.

 

When the game opens up late, you don't necessarily need a specialist crossing winger out there/operating wide in order to kill teams. Quick ball-carriers, who can get to the bylines are just about standard order. Bellamy, Lua-Lua, Martins have killed teams late and these are recent examples in our case. He may not be an all-out crossing type winger, but I see no reason as to why he shouldn't be injected into the fray on the right side, with 20 to go, especially with a lead & with the finishing line in sight.

[Guest Edd]

Great reason not to put the youngsters in, cos the one's in the past weren't good enough. LuaLua needs to be given a chance to show what he can do. Edgar keeps getting games, Taylor keeps getting games. Why? They have proven that they are not good enough.

 

Eh? I never said it was a reason at all not to play the kids at the moment. I've never said Lua-Lua isn't good enough. But ok then. Whereas you've said that we don't give youngsters a chance yet as shown by palnese we do and they've proven not to be good enough of which I commented on.

 

We, Premiership fans and clubs as a whole, do not give youngsters a chance. There are four teams within the premier league that can state they do. Everton, Villa, Boro and West Ham. Look at the statistics, it is well documented that youngsters are not being allowed to progress into premiership teams.

 

So Arsenal don't give youngsters a chance?

 

They sign the best youngsters for decent fees, I know what you're getting at, but it's not quite the same.

Arsenal have had plenty of their own youngsters come through the ranks that certainly weren't signed for decent fees.  Sure most have had to move on because they weren't quite good enough for a top-4 team, but some would be more than good enough to play for a team at our level (as many already are).

 

It stands to reason that the higher up the league you are competing then the fewer home grown players will make the grade, but in our position the lack of home grown players coming through is almost criminal and one of the reasons we've fallen behind the Villas and Evertons.

[TRon]

LuaLua should always be on our bench, and put on with 20mins to go to run at tired defences. You know it makes sense.

 

And it's the ideal way to blood the lad, without the harness of being closely checked during a game's more physical opening stages.

 

His older brother - as a dribbling & quick ball-carrier - at times had a major impact while moonlighting on the flanks on the counter, and a few late season games in season 01-02 spring to mind. Notably one jinking run down the left flank, leading to an assist to Bernard. That game may have been away to Derby if i recall correctly, when we put them to the sword late on.

 

I'd say that he appears to be more creative, to have more vision/or an eye for a final ball than Tressor after beating his man. I see him as somebody who can inflict some damage around the bylines, with the likes of Jonas & Guthrie inside and his elder brother was no slouch in this department. Especially when the former floats inside. Barton, when fit, is intelligent with his late off-the-ball movement/runs into the box. These just a players who can benefit from having such a player on the pitch/the right flank - another being Owen. N'Zogbia's inside play - off the ball - as a wideman is an under-recognized strength imo.

 

When the game opens up late, you don't necessarily need a specialist crossing winger out there/operating wide in order to kill teams. Quick ball-carriers, who can get to the bylines are just about standard order. Bellamy, Lua-Lua, Martins have killed teams late and these are recent examples in our case. He may not be an all-out crossing type winger, but I see no reason as to why he shouldn't be injected into the fray on the right side, with 20 to go, especially with a lead & with the finishing line in sight.

 

Very good post.

[Thespence]

Perhaps yesterday's game wasn't one for LuaLua to start, but look at Everton. Their 18 year old Dan Gosling scored yesterday, bet we here about him in the future.

 

The slight difference being Gosling already has league games behind him & Gosling has always been one of the best youngsters for his age group, where Kaz has not.

[Guest toonlass]

Perhaps yesterday's game wasn't one for LuaLua to start, but look at Everton. Their 18 year old Dan Gosling scored yesterday, bet we here about him in the future.

 

The slight difference being Gosling already has league games behind him & Gosling has always been one of the best youngsters for his age group, where Kaz has not.

 

Might as well get rid of him now then, eh?

[Thespence]

Perhaps yesterday's game wasn't one for LuaLua to start, but look at Everton. Their 18 year old Dan Gosling scored yesterday, bet we here about him in the future.

 

The slight difference being Gosling already has league games behind him & Gosling has always been one of the best youngsters for his age group, where Kaz has not.

 

Might as well get rid of him now then, eh?

 

Not atm sweetcheeks but a 3 month loan in the lower leagues could do him so good. Getting him used to playing men of a decent standard.

[Greg]

Perhaps yesterday's game wasn't one for LuaLua to start, but look at Everton. Their 18 year old Dan Gosling scored yesterday, bet we here about him in the future.

 

The slight difference being Gosling already has league games behind him & Gosling has always been one of the best youngsters for his age group, where Kaz has not.

 

Might as well get rid of him now then, eh?

 

Not atm sweetcheeks but a 3 month loan in the lower leagues could do him so good. Getting him used to playing men of a decent standard.

 

Sadly we don't have a big enough squad to let him go at the moment.

[Guest toonlass]

Perhaps yesterday's game wasn't one for LuaLua to start, but look at Everton. Their 18 year old Dan Gosling scored yesterday, bet we here about him in the future.

 

The slight difference being Gosling already has league games behind him & Gosling has always been one of the best youngsters for his age group, where Kaz has not.

 

Might as well get rid of him now then, eh?

 

 

Not atm sweetcheeks but a 3 month loan in the lower leagues could do him so good. Getting him used to playing men of a decent standard.

 

Or, snookums, lets give him 20 mins or so for a few games in the Premier League and see what he can do. He shouldn't be on the bench if the manager doesn't think he is capable of doing it.

 

[Tooj]

Perhaps yesterday's game wasn't one for LuaLua to start, but look at Everton. Their 18 year old Dan Gosling scored yesterday, bet we here about him in the future.

 

The slight difference being Gosling already has league games behind him & Gosling has always been one of the best youngsters for his age group, where Kaz has not.

 

Might as well get rid of him now then, eh?

 

 

Not atm sweetcheeks but a 3 month loan in the lower leagues could do him so good. Getting him used to playing men of a decent standard.

 

Or, snookums, lets give him 20 mins or so for a few games in the Premier League and see what he can do. He shouldn't be on the bench if the manager doesn't think he is capable of doing it.

 

 

[Guest Jawesome]

Pwnt.

 

How about we all reserve our judgement until he's played a couple of games in a row, rather than 1 or 2 measley 5 minutes here and there.

[Thespence]

Perhaps yesterday's game wasn't one for LuaLua to start, but look at Everton. Their 18 year old Dan Gosling scored yesterday, bet we here about him in the future.

 

The slight difference being Gosling already has league games behind him & Gosling has always been one of the best youngsters for his age group, where Kaz has not.

 

Might as well get rid of him now then, eh?

 

 

Not atm sweetcheeks but a 3 month loan in the lower leagues could do him so good. Getting him used to playing men of a decent standard.

 

Or, snookums, lets give him 20 mins or so for a few games in the Premier League and see what he can do. He shouldn't be on the bench if the manager doesn't think he is capable of doing it.

 

 

Give him 20 mins, we are in relegation battle we cant be dishing out mins willy-nilly in PL games. If anything I would play him from the start in the cup game.

[Guest toonlass]

Perhaps yesterday's game wasn't one for LuaLua to start, but look at Everton. Their 18 year old Dan Gosling scored yesterday, bet we here about him in the future.

 

The slight difference being Gosling already has league games behind him & Gosling has always been one of the best youngsters for his age group, where Kaz has not.

 

Might as well get rid of him now then, eh?

 

 

Not atm sweetcheeks but a 3 month loan in the lower leagues could do him so good. Getting him used to playing men of a decent standard.

 

Or, snookums, lets give him 20 mins or so for a few games in the Premier League and see what he can do. He shouldn't be on the bench if the manager doesn't think he is capable of doing it.

 

 

Give him 20 mins, we are in relegation battle we cant be dishing out mins willy-nilly in PL games. If anything I would play him from the start in the cup game.

 

Well don't put him on the bench if he is not good enough to be played. Unless he gets time on the field he will never develop.

[Thespence]

Perhaps yesterday's game wasn't one for LuaLua to start, but look at Everton. Their 18 year old Dan Gosling scored yesterday, bet we here about him in the future.

 

The slight difference being Gosling already has league games behind him & Gosling has always been one of the best youngsters for his age group, where Kaz has not.

 

Might as well get rid of him now then, eh?

 

 

Not atm sweetcheeks but a 3 month loan in the lower leagues could do him so good. Getting him used to playing men of a decent standard.

 

Or, snookums, lets give him 20 mins or so for a few games in the Premier League and see what he can do. He shouldn't be on the bench if the manager doesn't think he is capable of doing it.

 

 

Give him 20 mins, we are in relegation battle we cant be dishing out mins willy-nilly in PL games. If anything I would play him from the start in the cup game.

 

Well don't put him on the bench if he is not good enough to be played. Unless he gets time on the field he will never develop.

 

NEWSFLASH: WE HAVE NOT GOT MANY PLAYERS!!!! We are not going to turn up with only 6 subs are we.

[Guest toonlass]

Perhaps yesterday's game wasn't one for LuaLua to start, but look at Everton. Their 18 year old Dan Gosling scored yesterday, bet we here about him in the future.

 

The slight difference being Gosling already has league games behind him & Gosling has always been one of the best youngsters for his age group, where Kaz has not.

 

Might as well get rid of him now then, eh?

 

 

Not atm sweetcheeks but a 3 month loan in the lower leagues could do him so good. Getting him used to playing men of a decent standard.

 

Or, snookums, lets give him 20 mins or so for a few games in the Premier League and see what he can do. He shouldn't be on the bench if the manager doesn't think he is capable of doing it.

 

 

Give him 20 mins, we are in relegation battle we cant be dishing out mins willy-nilly in PL games. If anything I would play him from the start in the cup game.

 

Well don't put him on the bench if he is not good enough to be played. Unless he gets time on the field he will never develop.

 

NEWSFLASH: WE HAVE NOT GOT MANY PLAYERS!!!! We are not going to turn up with only 6 subs are we.

 

NEWSFLASH: WE NEED TO BE BRINGING PROMISING YOUNGSTERS THROUGH!!!! If they are good enough for the bench we cannot be afraid to use them!

[LooneyToonArmy]

Starlet Sets Sights On Senior Start

By Craig Hope

 

KAZENGA LuaLua hopes that his eye-catching display and double strike for Newcastle United Under-18s this week will go some way to seeing him rewarded with a full first-team debut.

 

With the Magpies trailing by three goals to nil and down to ten men after an hour of Wednesday's FA Youth Cup tie at holders Man City, 18-year-old LuaLua took the game by the scruff of the neck and embarked on a one-man mission to drag his side back into the contest.

 

Having shaved woodwork and stung palms with a string of earlier long-range efforts, the Congolese youngster eventually got his reward with a 25-yard screamer with 14 minutes left on the clock.

 

Still the Geordies pressed and, inspired by LuaLua, got to within a goal of their opponents as the younger brother of former Toon trickster Lomana dispatched a 20-yard free-kick with sniper-like precision.

 

Sadly for United the equaliser was to be out of their reach and City broke to seal a 4-2 win deep into stoppage time.

 

But LuaLua's efforts would certainly have done his first-team chances no harm with coaches Chris Hughton and Colin Calderwood watching from the stands at Eastlands.

 

"I know that Chris and Colin were there watching the game, so hopefully they will tell the manager about my goals and performance," Kazenga told nufcTV.

 

"I was pleased with my goals. For the first one I'd gone close a few times before that but I was happy to see the ball hit the back of the net because that gave us hope.

 

"For the free-kick to make it 3-2 I went for power and again it went in.

 

"After that we put a lot of men forward and sadly it wasn't to be, but we gave it our best shot."

 

LuaLua has made eight substitute appearances for Newcastle since making his debut in January last year, but is now setting his sights on a first start between now and the end of the season.

 

"I feel good at the moment and would love to get my first start," he added.

 

"We need points from every game we play and I want to help and feel I could bring something to the team.

 

"West Brom on Saturday is very important but I really think we will win."

 

[Mike]

Would like to see him get a run out.

[Pilko]

When does his contract expire? We should get him tied down to a new one, he looks an exciting prospect.

 

Hope he starts a game soon. He can't be any worse than Duff.