Unbelievable Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Went down easily, but was clearly pulled back from behind in a one on one with the goalkeeper situation. A pen every day of the week, except for Man U day.. It probably would be called a penalty for any other team, but I don't think it should be. Penalty should be given if the player is attempting to score, not looking to go to ground, which Pedersen clearly was (and no idea why Pedersen did, he could easily have stayed on his feet and been one on one with the keeper). Strange that. There are other reasons why a pen can be given, even hand ball without immediate danger of the opposition scoring. I don't understand the theatrics when there is a clear foul like this. As far as I am concerned MGP should have just stopped running, pick up the ball and put it on the spot. Stonewall penalty for what the defender was trying to do: hold him back by the shoulder in a one on one with the goalkeeper when he was already beaten.. You could even argue last man, and a red (would have been if it was outside of the box; what makes it less of a foul inside of the box?) I guess I should have been more clear-I meant in those kinds of situations only, handballs and the like are different. Rafael might have had the intention to hold back MGP, but he didn't in the end. You are allowed to put your hands on a player as long as you don't impede them, and MGP simply felt a touch and went down without ever actually having been impeded. Also, I actually don't agree that a foul outside the box should be held 100% to the same standard as a foul in the box, because the results are different. If they were indeed the same, then just like any other foul, the affected team should be given a free kick at the spot of the foul, instead of a special situation of a free one-on-one with the keeper. A penalty is a special situation. I don't see why something like a foul created by stepping on a players foot when he wasn't involved should result in a penalty just because he was inside the box. If you don't think Rafael held MGP back you may want to watch it again on MOTD. He almost hung around his neck. With regards to fouls inside the box: such are the rules, and such is the way they should be followed. Are you saying it would have been a free kick in a very good position (better than the one Ronaldo scored from) if it would have been a few yards further back from goal but not a pen as it was in the box, because that does not make any sense to me..? It was a clear foul, whatever MGP did or didn't do after the foul should have been irrelevant to the judgement of the foul situation itself, or next thing you know we will have players getting acting lessons to prepare for matches.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Yaya Toure pulls one back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Went down easily, but was clearly pulled back from behind in a one on one with the goalkeeper situation. A pen every day of the week, except for Man U day.. It probably would be called a penalty for any other team, but I don't think it should be. Penalty should be given if the player is attempting to score, not looking to go to ground, which Pedersen clearly was (and no idea why Pedersen did, he could easily have stayed on his feet and been one on one with the keeper). Strange that. There are other reasons why a pen can be given, even hand ball without immediate danger of the opposition scoring. I don't understand the theatrics when there is a clear foul like this. As far as I am concerned MGP should have just stopped running, pick up the ball and put it on the spot. Stonewall penalty for what the defender was trying to do: hold him back by the shoulder in a one on one with the goalkeeper when he was already beaten.. You could even argue last man, and a red (would have been if it was outside of the box; what makes it less of a foul inside of the box?) I guess I should have been more clear-I meant in those kinds of situations only, handballs and the like are different. Rafael might have had the intention to hold back MGP, but he didn't in the end. You are allowed to put your hands on a player as long as you don't impede them, and MGP simply felt a touch and went down without ever actually having been impeded. Also, I actually don't agree that a foul outside the box should be held 100% to the same standard as a foul in the box, because the results are different. If they were indeed the same, then just like any other foul, the affected team should be given a free kick at the spot of the foul, instead of a special situation of a free one-on-one with the keeper. A penalty is a special situation. I don't see why something like a foul created by stepping on a players foot when he wasn't involved should result in a penalty just because he was inside the box. If you don't think Rafael held MGP back you may want to watch it again on MOTD. He almost hung around his neck. With regards to fouls inside the box: such are the rules, and such is the way they should be followed. Are you saying it would have been a free kick in a very good position (better than the one Ronaldo scored from) if it would have been a few yards further back from goal but not a pen as it was in the box, because that does not make any sense to me..? It was a clear foul, whatever MGP did or didn't do after the foul should have been irrelevant to the judgement of the foul situation itself, or next thing you know we will have players getting acting lessons to prepare for matches.. And whilst we are on the subject of that particular match the decision to chalk off the Johnny Evans "goal" from the "corner" was a clear cut case of the sort of crap that goes on imo. It wasn't a corner but there was nothing wrong with the "goal".......so Webb puts it right - sort of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Went down easily, but was clearly pulled back from behind in a one on one with the goalkeeper situation. A pen every day of the week, except for Man U day.. It probably would be called a penalty for any other team, but I don't think it should be. Penalty should be given if the player is attempting to score, not looking to go to ground, which Pedersen clearly was (and no idea why Pedersen did, he could easily have stayed on his feet and been one on one with the keeper). Strange that. There are other reasons why a pen can be given, even hand ball without immediate danger of the opposition scoring. I don't understand the theatrics when there is a clear foul like this. As far as I am concerned MGP should have just stopped running, pick up the ball and put it on the spot. Stonewall penalty for what the defender was trying to do: hold him back by the shoulder in a one on one with the goalkeeper when he was already beaten.. You could even argue last man, and a red (would have been if it was outside of the box; what makes it less of a foul inside of the box?) I guess I should have been more clear-I meant in those kinds of situations only, handballs and the like are different. Rafael might have had the intention to hold back MGP, but he didn't in the end. You are allowed to put your hands on a player as long as you don't impede them, and MGP simply felt a touch and went down without ever actually having been impeded. Also, I actually don't agree that a foul outside the box should be held 100% to the same standard as a foul in the box, because the results are different. If they were indeed the same, then just like any other foul, the affected team should be given a free kick at the spot of the foul, instead of a special situation of a free one-on-one with the keeper. A penalty is a special situation. I don't see why something like a foul created by stepping on a players foot when he wasn't involved should result in a penalty just because he was inside the box. If you don't think Rafael held MGP back you may want to watch it again on MOTD. He almost hung around his neck. With regards to fouls inside the box: such are the rules, and such is the way they should be followed. Are you saying it would have been a free kick in a very good position (better than the one Ronaldo scored from) if it would have been a few yards further back from goal but not a pen as it was in the box, because that does not make any sense to me..? It was a clear foul, whatever MGP did or didn't do after the foul should have been irrelevant to the judgement of the foul situation itself, or next thing you know we will have players getting acting lessons to prepare for matches.. And whilst we are on the subject of that particular match the decision to chalk off the Johnny Evans "goal" from the "corner" was a clear cut case of the sort of crap that goes on imo. It wasn't a corner but there was nothing wrong with the "goal".......so Webb puts it right - sort of. Didn't see that incident, so can't comment. Agree about not being able to stand referees balancing decisions out; it's ridiculous.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 In the words of FM09: "Brave Barca finally lose" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Barca are wobbling at the wrong time; CL games coming up, Real in fantastic form. I still really want to see them sweep through the CL this year with their football so I hope they recover some form soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Does anyone know whether you need a tv license to watch MoTD on the internet? We have a tv license for the kitchen tv but lately we've been getting letters from the licensing company saying that someone's been illegally watching tv so I'm wondering if it's me.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Does anyone know whether you need a tv license to watch MoTD on the internet? We have a tv license for the kitchen tv but lately we've been getting letters from the licensing company saying that someone's been illegally watching tv so I'm wondering if it's me.... Wouldn't have thought you'd need a separate one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Does anyone know whether you need a tv license to watch MoTD on the internet? We have a tv license for the kitchen tv but lately we've been getting letters from the licensing company saying that someone's been illegally watching tv so I'm wondering if it's me.... http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/students.jsp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Some of the TV licensing regulations are an utter joke, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Does anyone know whether you need a tv license to watch MoTD on the internet? We have a tv license for the kitchen tv but lately we've been getting letters from the licensing company saying that someone's been illegally watching tv so I'm wondering if it's me.... http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/students.jsp Your hall probably has a licence covering TVs in communal areas, but this won't cover a TV in your room. So, if you're planning to watch TV in your room, make sure you're covered by a valid licence. So that answers it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 What a joke. Why don't they just put adverts on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 What a joke. Why don't they just put adverts on. Three simple letters: I T V Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 That's a cracking free-kick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Ronaldo for all his talent is an absolute baby sometime, the sooner someone shows a set of bollocks and sends him off for kicking players the better. Two arms on his shoulder of Pedersen as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 A couple of classic Old Trafford decisions today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Never a penalty for Pedersen. Pedersen was looking for the easy way out the soft biatch. That tiny Rafael had his hands on him for one second and didn't even pull him. Pedersen is a pansy. I would fine him for going down in that situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Portsmouth can feel a little hard done by today I think.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Never a penalty for Pedersen. Pedersen was looking for the easy way out the soft biatch. That tiny Rafael had his hands on him for one second and didn't even pull him. Pedersen is a pansy. I would fine him for going down in that situation. Nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 How many times has Ronaldo and Rooney kicked out at other players this season and not been sent off? Rooney, iirc, did it twice against Stoke away and Ronaldo was also in on the action that day, but that's just one example of the many, many times that they've escaped punishment. I love how Hansen's taking the piss out of Allardyce for that body language comment classic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Never a penalty for Pedersen. Pedersen was looking for the easy way out the soft biatch. That tiny Rafael had his hands on him for one second and didn't even pull him. Pedersen is a pansy. I would fine him for going down in that situation. Did you watch the same match mate? Deffo penalty had the opponent been any other than Manchester United. And by the way, some of the comments by some of you here going "giving a penalty isn't the same as giving a free-kick." Are you dumb? You're not meant to do fouls at all, and when you do, you get punished. And the rule book is the same even if it's on the other side of the pitch or in the opponent's penalty area. You stop the play and it's a free-kick or a penalty. Simple as. I'd go on but I'm tired, someone else who knows how it's like will probably pick up my side of an eventual argument from here on out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Never a penalty for Pedersen. Pedersen was looking for the easy way out the soft biatch. That tiny Rafael had his hands on him for one second and didn't even pull him. Pedersen is a pansy. I would fine him for going down in that situation. Did you watch the same match mate? Deffo penalty had the opponent been any other than Manchester United. And by the way, some of the comments by some of you here going "giving a penalty isn't the same as giving a free-kick." Are you dumb? You're not meant to do fouls at all, and when you do, you get punished. And the rule book is the same even if it's on the other side of the pitch or in the opponent's penalty area. You stop the play and it's a free-kick or a penalty. Simple as. I'd go on but I'm tired, someone else who knows how it's like will probably pick up my side of an eventual argument from here on out Not for me. Pedersen was weak as piss there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Never a penalty for Pedersen. Pedersen was looking for the easy way out the soft biatch. That tiny Rafael had his hands on him for one second and didn't even pull him. Pedersen is a pansy. I would fine him for going down in that situation. Did you watch the same match mate? Deffo penalty had the opponent been any other than Manchester United. And by the way, some of the comments by some of you here going "giving a penalty isn't the same as giving a free-kick." Are you dumb? You're not meant to do fouls at all, and when you do, you get punished. And the rule book is the same even if it's on the other side of the pitch or in the opponent's penalty area. You stop the play and it's a free-kick or a penalty. Simple as. I'd go on but I'm tired, someone else who knows how it's like will probably pick up my side of an eventual argument from here on out Not for me. Pedersen was weak as piss there. That doesn't mean it wasn't a penalty though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Never a penalty for Pedersen. Pedersen was looking for the easy way out the soft biatch. That tiny Rafael had his hands on him for one second and didn't even pull him. Pedersen is a pansy. I would fine him for going down in that situation. Did you watch the same match mate? Deffo penalty had the opponent been any other than Manchester United. And by the way, some of the comments by some of you here going "giving a penalty isn't the same as giving a free-kick." Are you dumb? You're not meant to do fouls at all, and when you do, you get punished. And the rule book is the same even if it's on the other side of the pitch or in the opponent's penalty area. You stop the play and it's a free-kick or a penalty. Simple as. I'd go on but I'm tired, someone else who knows how it's like will probably pick up my side of an eventual argument from here on out Not for me. Pedersen was weak as piss there. That doesn't mean it wasn't a penalty though. That's why I said not for me. I think it would have been a very soft penalty and Pedersen is one of those who will always go over when given a chance, and I feel that is why he did. Watch it again and pay attention to the way he actually falls down in relation to how Rafael puts his hands on him. Pedersen is an ass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 N'Zogbia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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