ChrisJbarnes Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 ITV commentry when porto equalise: "and the man united fans look as if theyve got to go through this all the time. theyve got used to it recently" poor bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. To say Rooney can do something better than him (Messi) and I am sure you are just watching English games in your football world. Are you really saying that Messi is better than Rooney in every single aspect of the game? what's messi like with verbal abuse of the ref? bet rooney walks that one If you're trying to claim Messi is a fair and kind player, you'd be massively wrong. Fucking Hand-of-God Maradona wannabe fuckhead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Cracking game last night, naturally Porto being my favourite foreign side and my hatred of the Manc bastards meant there was only one result I wanted to see. Lucho Gonzalez and Lopez, normally the star performers for their side, took a back seat as Porto once again showed their talent for finding unknowns and turning them into house hold names. Cissoko, Fernando and Hulk really stood out as Porto out played the Mancs for large spells of the game. Naturally Porto fans will be some what disappointed, if it wasn't for Alves's shocking back pass, a couple of half chances that went a miss and some poor refereeing decisions they could well of been out of site. They will however take comfort in the fact no English side has ever won at the Dragao. The only real positives for Man United was the performance of Rooney. As a critic of his abilities even I have to admit his recent displays have been impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. To say Rooney can do something better than him (Messi) and I am sure you are just watching English games in your football world. Are you really saying that Messi is better than Rooney in every single aspect of the game? what's messi like with verbal abuse of the ref? bet rooney walks that one If you're trying to claim Messi is a fair and kind player, you'd be massively wrong. Fucking Hand-of-God Maradona wannabe fuckhead. jesus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. To say Rooney can do something better than him (Messi) and I am sure you are just watching English games in your football world. Are you really saying that Messi is better than Rooney in every single aspect of the game? what's messi like with verbal abuse of the ref? bet rooney walks that one If you're trying to claim Messi is a fair and kind player, you'd be massively wrong. Fucking Hand-of-God Maradona wannabe fuckhead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 In terms of all round ability Rooney doesn't get near the likes of Messi, Villa or Gerrard. All players who play or have played in his position in behind the front man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NorwegianMag Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. To say Rooney can do something better than him (Messi) and I am sure you are just watching English games in your football world. Are you really saying that Messi is better than Rooney in every single aspect of the game? what's messi like with verbal abuse of the ref? bet rooney walks that one If you're trying to claim Messi is a fair and kind player, you'd be massively wrong. f***ing Hand-of-God Maradona wannabe fuckhead. So one accident make him an unfair player? Why the hatred against Messi? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 What I find exceptional about Rooney is that he's not just good at producing those moments of skill that will open up a defence, but he's actually very good at all the ordinary things as well - like work rate, heading, tackling, defending, reading the game. And his work is nearly always useful, he doesn't just run around like a twat, trying to take over things that his team mates can do. Messi and his like will produce more of those moments of exceptional skill, and Messi in particular can do things that other players can't. But Rooney can turn his hand to virtually any job on the pitch, and that makes his overall contribution quite exceptional. He's involved all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Its like comparing a Ferrari to a "state of the art <insert name here>" tractor, they are both exceptional for their use. Two totally different players, with different ability. Both world-class at their day... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Its like comparing a Ferrari to a "state of the art <insert name here>" tractor, they are both exceptional for their use. Two totally different players, with different ability. Both world-class at their day... Comparison Of The Year Nominee 2009? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 For the record IMO, overall, Messi > Rooney Rooney though it has to be said is starting to show the form he's capable of, i.e being the star of a game, and dictating Man Utd's offensive play. I still think mind that although they're both obviously hugely talented, Messi is just a class above. Quicker, more skilful and I think frightens defences more. surely rooney is becoming more of a "playmaker" and as a consequence his goals ratio will drop off a bit Rooney's goals to games ratio has never been that good, it can't afford to drop off a bit. If anything it needs to improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. To say Rooney can do something better than him (Messi) and I am sure you are just watching English games in your football world. Are you really saying that Messi is better than Rooney in every single aspect of the game? what's messi like with verbal abuse of the ref? bet rooney walks that one If you're trying to claim Messi is a fair and kind player, you'd be massively wrong. f***ing Hand-of-God Maradona wannabe fuckhead. So one accident make him an unfair player? Why the hatred against Messi? ACCIDENT!??? I'd break your legs if it wasn't such a massive overreaction and this wasn't a forum on the internet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I think we'll all see tonight that Messi is the greatest player in the world at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NorwegianMag Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Another amazing all-round performance by Rooney, I thought. Considering that he won't reach his peak for another 4 or 5 years, it's staggering to think what he might achieve. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. Apart from all his other qualities, his ability to anticipate what's about to happen and get into just the right position to receive the ball is quite fantastic. The best in the world at what he does. Absolutely phenomenal tbh. Wayne Rooney is not the best in the world at anything, and he never will be. Bullshit. His natural understanding of the game is top rate. Although Messi and Ronaldo are the better players, Rooney can do some things better than them. He has a drive and passion to win that exceeds theirs combined. Add that to the wide array of skills in his arsenal, and a powerful right foot, and you have a lethal combination. IMO he really can be one of the greats. To say Rooney can do something better than him (Messi) and I am sure you are just watching English games in your football world. Are you really saying that Messi is better than Rooney in every single aspect of the game? what's messi like with verbal abuse of the ref? bet rooney walks that one If you're trying to claim Messi is a fair and kind player, you'd be massively wrong. f***ing Hand-of-God Maradona wannabe fuckhead. So one accident make him an unfair player? Why the hatred against Messi? ACCIDENT!??? I'd break your legs if it wasn't such a massive overreaction and this wasn't a forum on the internet Haha! Mr. Tough guy I bet you've pissed your pants. to topic: Hope for Barca and Chelsea win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I hope the entire Barca squad get AIDS. (Apart from Thierry, he can be the AIDS mole or some such) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 How can anyone who loves football hate Barca? ITs fkn entertaining... like porn in a way... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I hope the entire Barca squad get AIDS. (Apart from Thierry, he can be the AIDS mole or some such) Barca are class! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I think Messi has more flow to his game. A lot of the things he does just seem to come randomly out of the pure talent that he possesses. Rooney on the other hand is without a doubt immensly talented, but he is only on top of his game when he uses his psychological strenghts and his will to succeed. I don't know exactly how to put it, but it looks to me as if Rooney tries harder than Messi. Has more passion and desire to win. It's that instinct imo which makes him the great player he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 What I find exceptional about Rooney is that he's not just good at producing those moments of skill that will open up a defence, but he's actually very good at all the ordinary things as well - like work rate, heading, tackling, defending, reading the game. And his work is nearly always useful, he doesn't just run around like a t***, trying to take over things that his team mates can do. Messi and his like will produce more of those moments of exceptional skill, and Messi in particular can do things that other players can't. But Rooney can turn his hand to virtually any job on the pitch, and that makes his overall contribution quite exceptional. He's involved all the time. Precisely. Rooney is like the ultimate superstar "utility man". A rich man's Steve Watson if you like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 How can anyone who loves football hate Barca? ITs fkn entertaining... like porn in a way... HALA MADRID Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 How can anyone who loves football hate Barca? ITs fkn entertaining... like porn in a way... HALA MADRID Allah acbar to you too mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Running around like a headless chicken does not mean more 'passion and desire to win' - not that I think Rooney does, but I think he charges around more whereas Messi doesn't. I think the fact that Messi is renowned as a hard-worker off the pitch (first in, last out etc.) shows that he also has the passion and desire to win. His style seems very fluid and natural but I bet he's worked his fucking arse off to be that good on the ball and he should be credited for being so good; the fact that it seems 'natural' should enhance his reputation, not diminish it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Fergie's turned Rooney into a team player so while his individual skills may not have flourished in the way that many hoped and expected, the most important fact is that Man Utd have won a shitload of titles. I don't think Fergie cares who scores 30/40 goals a season as long the team's winning the league and competing in the CL. But of course, for the neutral fans, you like to see the best of the very best and for me, Rooney's just not on the same level as Messi. Like I mentioned, he's more of a team player so he'll pass the ball off instead of taking the man on, he'll rarely go on a crusading run from the halfway line (as he no doubt is capable of) but his style contributes to the team's success so I believe he won't be changing it. On the other hand, Messi's always been someone who has the team revolve around him because the more he touches the ball, the better the team is, so that's why you'll see him pop up on the left, right, up top, drop deeper and single-handedly control the game. And because Barca are imo the best 'footballing' team in the world, Messi's the best player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I think Messi has more flow to his game. A lot of the things he does just seem to come randomly out of the pure talent that he possesses. Rooney on the other hand is without a doubt immensly talented, but he is only on top of his game when he uses his psychological strenghts and his will to succeed. I don't know exactly how to put it, but it looks to me as if Rooney tries harder than Messi. Has more passion and desire to win. It's that instinct imo which makes him the great player he is. Rooney has more passion to win? Based on what? The fact that he shouts at referees and gurns after missing chances? I don't think you can get to where Messi has without a massive desire to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Messi and Rooney are two different players that play two different positions that can influence football matches in their own manner. Technically Messi wipes the floor with Rooney. Rooney may pop up with th odd back heel or a deft chip once in a while but Messi just oozes class and finesse in everything he does, he's just naturally gifted. This alone makes him individually a better player. Rooney on the hand posesses the physical presence that Messi doesn't. He's powerful, strong on the ball and isn't afriad to get stuck in. Both score goals, both are capable of changing football matches but for me only Messi performs week in week out. If you were to ask me now which I'd rather have in my side I'd choose Messi every day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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