Luque: 3 starts - 3 goals

[Guest Gemmill]

I wouldn't say he's lazy, just a conserver of energy

 

 

:lol:

 

Quote of the year.

You've got nothing else to say abou the topic I am sure you would have been one of the first here if not being the thread starter if Luque had NOT scored tonight to mouth off against him..

 

Jesus Christ lad, he scored a goal for Newcastle.  I'm pleased.  I still don't think he's much cop, and he did nothing last night to suggest that he is.  No doubt you saw some AMAZING things in his performance though.

I didn't say that I saw him doing AMAZING things as I didn't watch the match (Set the mobile phone alarm to 6:45 PM instead of AM errrrr...)

 

Do you think Luque should play on Saturday ?

 

Yeah, he probably should.  No point in giving him a run-out in which he scores and then dropping him when we have no alternatives.  If our other strikers were fit, I would probably say no, but I see no reason not to give him a run on Saturday.

[Guest Skjære]

 

Another case of the Emporer's new clothes. Luque scored a goal, helpfully placed right on his mullet for him to nod in, but apart from that contributed very little to the team.

 

Yes, but he is a striker it's his job to score goals, he scored, so job done!

 

This is the same mentality of those attempting to defend Souness when we were scraping 1-0 wins despite appalling performances.

 

Well, its the managers job to win games and we are winning games.

 

The problem with both Luque and Souness is that they were/are both papering over the cracks and obscuring underlying problems. You don't win games/score goals consistently unless you are playing well and doing the right things.

 

Luque was woeful, he has no impetus, desire or determination. He should be jumping out of his foreskin to prove to Roeder he has what it takes. He may have the footballling attributes to succeed at Newcastle but in my opinion he is lacking the personal qualities required.

 

To compare him with the likes of  Bergkamp or Pires, players who initially struggled in the premiership, is ridiculous.  They didn't give up as soon as thing didn't go their way.

[alpal78]

 

Another case of the Emporer's new clothes. Luque scored a goal, helpfully placed right on his mullet for him to nod in, but apart from that contributed very little to the team.

 

Yes, but he is a striker it's his job to score goals, he scored, so job done!

 

This is the same mentality of those attempting to defend Souness when we were scraping 1-0 wins despite appalling performances.

 

Well, its the managers job to win games and we are winning games.

 

The problem with both Luque and Souness is that they were/are both papering over the cracks and obscuring underlying problems. You don't win games/score goals consistently unless you are playing well and doing the right things.

 

Luque was woeful, he has no impetus, desire or determination. He should be jumping out of his foreskin to prove to Roeder he has what it takes. He may have the footballling attributes to succeed at Newcastle but in my opinion he is lacking the personal qualities required.

 

To compare him with the likes of  Bergkamp or Pires, players who initially struggled in the premiership, is ridiculous.  They didn't give up as soon as thing didn't go their way.

 

Perhaps, but neither were they dumped into the reserves after their first few lacklustre performances. Quite how you expect Luque to score consistently when he does not even play most matches is beyond me, his goal/per minute ratio is better than most if not all of our current strikers/attacking players.

[junkhead]

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albert will prove you all wrong motherfuckers.. don't sleep

[Guest ChickenKiev]

I dont think Id be too far from the truth in saying Owen doesnt do much for the team except score.  That game against west brom or birmingham (where he scored that cracking volley) he  scored two goals and thats about all he did.  Luque did exactly what owen would have done today - score and nothing else.  Owen would have been hailed a hero, Luque should too.

 

Exactly my thoughts. A striker's job is to score goals when the chance comes to him and Luque did just that under extremely difficult circumstances. I know he did f*ck all for the rest of the match but that's why there's 11 f*cking players on the field and not 1! He did his job and he did it well. As the guy above said owen would have been a hero. Some "fans" just haen't got a f*cking clue about football!!

[buzza]

Just a thought on Luques' plight:

He gets a decent cross and slots it in. How many other decent through balls and crosses did he get last night? I don't know cos it wasn't on telly here.....

My point is that week in, week out our service from the flanks and the middle is completely average, doesn't matter if it's LUque, shearer, Rooney or Eto, we aint going to get many goals....

I honestly think that Luque needs a run in the team and considering our striker situation and the fact he gave Roeder what he wanted: a goal from an opportunity, then he should play on saturday..... or we could stick a winger, midfielder or even a defender upfront instead of him.....get a life Roeder!

[Skirge]

He has to start alongside Rossi on saturday you have to feel sorry for him, in no way is he the kind of striker to play upfront alone.

Okay he does look like he has not a care in the world and is not the msot mobile of strikers.

He does find the goal though and if its more confidence he needs then dropping him is not going to give him that. We did see more effort is the 2nd half though he chased about a bit and tried closing down, I do think its to late for him here though and come the transfer window he will be sold but until then let him atleast have 90 mins in the Prem on Saturday.

[alpal78]

Just a thought on Luques' plight:

He gets a decent cross and slots it in. How many other decent through balls and crosses did he get last night? I don't know cos it wasn't on telly here.....

My point is that week in, week out our service from the flanks and the middle is completely average, doesn't matter if it's LUque, shearer, Rooney or Eto, we aint going to get many goals....

I honestly think that Luque needs a run in the team and considering our striker situation and the fact he gave Roeder what he wanted: a goal from an opportunity, then he should play on saturday..... or we could stick a winger, midfielder or even a defender upfront instead of him.....get a life Roeder!

 

Exactly, its not as if the team was creating a hatful of chances or that he missed a few sitters. He got one good chance and put it away. A striker's job is to score based on the chances he gets. Sure there are strikers like Henry and Rooney who create goals for themselves, but that's why those type of strikers cost tripple of what Luque cost us.

[Guest Gemmill]

Whoever said Mickey Owen does nothing for the team apart from score, that's bullshit. His holdup play is good, and he is always looking for opportunities and space.

 

Luque I thought was woeful last night apart from the goal. He put no effort in to win the ball back, and when he did get it, the majority of the time he lost it quite easily.

 

 

Aye, there's a world of difference between Michael Owen "doing nothing but scoring" and Albert Luque "doing nothing but scoring".  Wullie's not daft though, so I suspect he knew this when he was trying to make the argument.  bluebigrazz.gif

[jimmymag]

We desperately need to win tomorrow's game so, IMO, Luque should not start. I'd rather go with Sibierski as he's looked more capable of linking our midfield with attack.

[James]

I wouldn't start Luque tommorrow - two games in 48 hours for someone not matchfit. is not really a good idea. He definitely deserves a few more starting opportunities though.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I think some people need to realise what makes up a successful football team. It's not 11 Scott Parkers who run themselves into the ground for the cause. It's a good mix of Scott Parkers and a couple of Albert Luques.

 

We need someone who has talent, technique and vision, as well as an eye for goal as he has. True, I haven't seen enough to truly judge yet, but I bet if he had had a few of those chances Duffer wasted against Charlton we'd have won that game.

[Guest newcastle4life]

Luque deserves one last chance other forwards cant score and the midfielders arent scoring so he should try.

[BottledDog]

Luque deserves one last chance other forwards cant score and the midfielders arent scoring so he should try.

 

One last chance? That's very magnanimous of you considering the massive number of chances handed to him thus far under Roeder.

[ujpest doza]

He was garbage tonight, what did he do apart from score the goal?? best of luck to him anyways a good Luque can only benefit Newcastle United, but he has to do alot better to support his team mates in my humble opinion

 

He was in the team to play as a lone striker and did everything that was asked of him by putting the ball in the back of the net.

 

Gordon Lee used to criticise Supermac for standing on the halfway line with his hands on his hips doing fuck all, but he still used to do the business at the business end of the pitch where he was supposed to.

 

Too much emphasis on forwards tracking back these days, we won 1-0 and he scored the winner, thats his job.

 

[David Icke - Son of God]

 

Another case of the Emporer's new clothes. Luque scored a goal, helpfully placed right on his mullet for him to nod in, but apart from that contributed very little to the team.

 

Yes, but he is a striker it's his job to score goals, he scored, so job done!

 

This is the same mentality of those attempting to defend Souness when we were scraping 1-0 wins despite appalling performances.

 

Well, its the managers job to win games and we are winning games.

 

The problem with both Luque and Souness is that they were/are both papering over the cracks and obscuring underlying problems. You don't win games/score goals consistently unless you are playing well and doing the right things.

 

Luque was woeful, he has no impetus, desire or determination. He should be jumping out of his foreskin to prove to Roeder he has what it takes. He may have the footballling attributes to succeed at Newcastle but in my opinion he is lacking the personal qualities required.

 

To compare him with the likes of  Bergkamp or Pires, players who initially struggled in the premiership, is ridiculous.  They didn't give up as soon as thing didn't go their way.

 

Really, what the fuck are you talking about? The Souness and Luque comparisons are bewildering, nay sorry, moronic.

 

No impetus, desire, determination? He was playing as a lone striker in a team who went out there try and sneak a result. What did you want him to do?

 

You're right, sorry, it is daft to compare him to players like Bergkamp and Bobby Pires. They had managers that saw they were quality and just needed time to adapt whereas we have a manager who just plain doesn't like him and won't give him games to prove his worth.

[David Icke - Son of God]

He was garbage tonight, what did he do apart from score the goal?? best of luck to him anyways a good Luque can only benefit Newcastle United, but he has to do alot better to support his team mates in my humble opinion

 

He was in the team to play as a lone striker and did everything that was asked of him by putting the ball in the back of the net.

 

Gordon Lee used to criticise Supermac for standing on the halfway line with his hands on his hips doing **** all, but he still used to do the business at the business end of the pitch where he was supposed to.

 

Too much emphasis on forwards tracking back these days, we won 1-0 and he scored the winner, thats his job.

 

 

It's not really about him not tracking back, it's about how easily he lost the ball, and how he didn't even try to close players down in the later stages of the game when we needed to get possesion back.

 

 

 

Not match fit, not a defender. The last thing we wanted was him flying in with a mistimed tackle, getting himself sent off and giving away a dangerous set piece.

 

EDIT: Yes, that was tounge in cheek. Trying to show that I can be as ridiculous defending the lad as others can having a go at him.

[PM]

Luque did everything I wanted from him last night - scored.

 

It was never going to be the type of game where he was outstripping defenders time after time, or beating them in the air to win flick ons for his partner, mainly because he didn't have one.

 

He had 1 chance, and he took it.  Otherwise he had a pretty fruitless task, but kept going.

[Guest pedros-mighty-chin]

he scored last night but that was it. he comes across as lazy and off the pace.

 

if that goal gets him a run in the team and the run in the team improves his output then alls well that ends well and Roder will have to eat humble pie.

 

but tapping a header in from 5 yards and doing nowt else for 89 minutes isn't enough for me I'm afraid...fingers crossed he proves me wrong !

[Wullie]

Whoever said Mickey Owen does nothing for the team apart from score, that's bullshit. His holdup play is good, and he is always looking for opportunities and space.

 

Luque I thought was woeful last night apart from the goal. He put no effort in to win the ball back, and when he did get it, the majority of the time he lost it quite easily.

 

 

Aye, there's a world of difference between Michael Owen "doing nothing but scoring" and Albert Luque "doing nothing but scoring". Wullie's not daft though, so I suspect he knew this when he was trying to make the argument. bluebigrazz.gif

 

I thought Luque's hold up play and link up play was as good as it was going to get in the circumstances, with very little help from central midfield.

 

We both know there's a huge difference between Owen and Luque, but my point was just that you never ever see Michael Owen have a poor game, get one chance, score the winner and then have everyone say "well yeah we've won, but fucking hell he was shit".

[Guest]

I'm all for giving him another game on Saturday, but I have to say I thought (apart from the goal) he was dreadful.

 

If we're saying the exact same thing 8pm on Saturday, I'll be delighted.

[Mr. Snrub]

The way Roeder was talking before the game about this being Luque's one big chance to prove himself and all that, then shoving him up front on his own was almost like he was setting out to watch him fail.  But he did what he was there to do last night, score.  Who cares if he didn't run his socks off for 90 minutes, he won us the ****ing game so people should get off his back.

 

It's quite clear most people will accept a shite performance but a goal from Ameobi, Sibierski and Martins, but with Luque he has to score and put in a MOM performance just to avoid people slating him.

[Guest SLK]

he scored last night but that was it. he comes across as lazy and off the pace.

 

if that goal gets him a run in the team and the run in the team improves his output then alls well that ends well and Roder will have to eat humble pie.

 

but tapping a header in from 5 yards and doing nowt else for 89 minutes isn't enough for me I'm afraid...fingers crossed he proves me wrong !

Mate...Martins, Ameobi and Duff had zillion crosses by Solano and Milner and did f*ck all even though they were running like headless chicken (martins and duff but not ameobi obviously due to his snail speed)

[vicente_14]

Just watched the aftermatch interview with Luque on .cock, and he basically said, he needs a run of three games to get his match fitness, because he hasnt played, and the Newcastle supporters have yet to see the REAL Albert Luque, all he wants is a run of 3 games to get up to speed and match fitness. He said the lack of action caught up with him after the break and he was very tired.

 

Whilst some on here are still ripping him to shreds, he scored, which is what strikers are paid for, and i thought he showed a bit more fight and determination than he has done previously, he even won a header!

[CPL]

Missed the game last night but was delighted when i heard Luque scored the winner, watching the highlights they were all over us. Playing in a 4-5-1 formation, Luque was really up against it not the most mobile and isn't the strongest niether. Fair play to him though he scored when the chance came his way and thats all you can ask for. I think people have got it spot on saying he's just done what Owen does. Won't say no more cause i know for players like Luque, one bad game and this one will be forgotten very quickly.

 

Head up Albert!