Guest The Libertine Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 this kind of shit appearing in the papers almost every day probably gave the "general impression" most fans seem to have about an imminent massive spending spree; "A source close to the United owner told the Telegraph today that Mike has told Keegan he has a "bottomless pit" of money at his disposal as he attempts to turn the club into an exciting, attacking force capable of challenging English football's big four. Telegraph also reveals that the Tottenham striker Jermain Defoe, Chelsea winger Shaun Wright-Phillips and fullback Wayne Bridge, Barcelona's Deco, Celtic's Scott Brown, Bayern Munich's Belgian centre-half Daniel van Buyten and Manchester United's Wes Brown are among Keegan's first transfer list in January." Oh, come on. Even though that nonsense is a genuine quote, no one believed any such thing. Most supporters expected more than we got, though, as that was what we were made to believe. i disagree. the "average fan" is gullible and when they see those chronicle boards around town saying "keegan chasing henry" or "keegan's infinite funds", more often than not they believe it. the press only continue to write about made up stories if there are people buying into them and they kept writing about that shit for a few months in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I agree with Dave - this stupidity of still going on about Keegan does no good and could do ill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Poor, poor Kevin. It must have been earth-shattering to have to work with Dennis Wise and not have enough money to buy Lionel Messi. Let's give him £9 million to compensate for all that terrible suffering. The last two posts of yours I've read have probably been the most pathetic attempts to garner bites I've seen on this site. There's a lot of competition out there, but congratulations, you've nailed it. Well, I'm so f***ing sorry, but I haven't read a single argument about the nature of his departure -- of his choice to depart -- that comes within a light year of justifying a £9 million payout. I do realise he's a sacred cow, and that any criticism of him at all will be regarded by many as trolling, but that is my honest opinion. Well... It going to the court because of constructive dismissial whereby people above him made his job extremely difficult to do - in a deliberate attempt to get him to quit. Which he did! as couldn't handle it anymore.. especially after promising the fans a replacement for Milner - which a penny hasn't even arrived yet! Probably was super stressful being undermined like that. Well, I'm sure that £9 million will help the poor fellow relax after his terrible ordeal. He didn't deserve be treated like that, he couldn't do his job. A sacked manager gets compensation out of his contract, a manager forced out must be due similiar.. i don't think you understand that he was being deliberately forced out. No, I don't understand that. In fact, I think the idea is completely daft. Do you honestly believe that Ashley appointed Keegan in January only to purposely engineer his departure in September? Why on earth do you believe such a thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Poor, poor Kevin. It must have been earth-shattering to have to work with Dennis Wise and not have enough money to buy Lionel Messi. Let's give him £9 million to compensate for all that terrible suffering. The last two posts of yours I've read have probably been the most pathetic attempts to garner bites I've seen on this site. There's a lot of competition out there, but congratulations, you've nailed it. Well, I'm so f***ing sorry, but I haven't read a single argument about the nature of his departure -- of his choice to depart -- that comes within a light year of justifying a £9 million payout. I do realise he's a sacred cow, and that any criticism of him at all will be regarded by many as trolling, but that is my honest opinion. Well... It going to the court because of constructive dismissial whereby people above him made his job extremely difficult to do - in a deliberate attempt to get him to quit. Which he did! as couldn't handle it anymore.. especially after promising the fans a replacement for Milner - which a penny hasn't even arrived yet! Probably was super stressful being undermined like that. Well, I'm sure that £9 million will help the poor fellow relax after his terrible ordeal. He didn't deserve be treated like that, he couldn't do his job. A sacked manager gets compensation out of his contract, a manager forced out must be due similiar.. i don't think you understand that he was being deliberately forced out. No, I don't understand that. In fact, I think the idea is completely daft. Do you honestly believe that Ashley appointed Keegan in January only to purposely engineer his departure in September? Why on earth do you believe such a thing? It's just as daft as suggesting Keegan only accepted the job with the intent to make a few bob, which some have done. Works both ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Poor, poor Kevin. It must have been earth-shattering to have to work with Dennis Wise and not have enough money to buy Lionel Messi. Let's give him £9 million to compensate for all that terrible suffering. The last two posts of yours I've read have probably been the most pathetic attempts to garner bites I've seen on this site. There's a lot of competition out there, but congratulations, you've nailed it. Well, I'm so f***ing sorry, but I haven't read a single argument about the nature of his departure -- of his choice to depart -- that comes within a light year of justifying a £9 million payout. I do realise he's a sacred cow, and that any criticism of him at all will be regarded by many as trolling, but that is my honest opinion. Well... It going to the court because of constructive dismissial whereby people above him made his job extremely difficult to do - in a deliberate attempt to get him to quit. Which he did! as couldn't handle it anymore.. especially after promising the fans a replacement for Milner - which a penny hasn't even arrived yet! Probably was super stressful being undermined like that. Well, I'm sure that £9 million will help the poor fellow relax after his terrible ordeal. He didn't deserve be treated like that, he couldn't do his job. A sacked manager gets compensation out of his contract, a manager forced out must be due similiar.. i don't think you understand that he was being deliberately forced out. No, I don't understand that. In fact, I think the idea is completely daft. Do you honestly believe that Ashley appointed Keegan in January only to purposely engineer his departure in September? Why on earth do you believe such a thing? It's just as daft as suggesting Keegan only accepted the job with the intent to make a few bob, which some have done. Works both ways. or the in between possibility that keegan took the job and thought his force of personality would get him his own way...as it did first time round and at fulham. (bit like when you go with a woman who says she doesn't do oral.........."i'll persuade her") Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Poor, poor Kevin. It must have been earth-shattering to have to work with Dennis Wise and not have enough money to buy Lionel Messi. Let's give him £9 million to compensate for all that terrible suffering. The last two posts of yours I've read have probably been the most pathetic attempts to garner bites I've seen on this site. There's a lot of competition out there, but congratulations, you've nailed it. Well, I'm so f***ing sorry, but I haven't read a single argument about the nature of his departure -- of his choice to depart -- that comes within a light year of justifying a £9 million payout. I do realise he's a sacred cow, and that any criticism of him at all will be regarded by many as trolling, but that is my honest opinion. Well... It going to the court because of constructive dismissial whereby people above him made his job extremely difficult to do - in a deliberate attempt to get him to quit. Which he did! as couldn't handle it anymore.. especially after promising the fans a replacement for Milner - which a penny hasn't even arrived yet! Probably was super stressful being undermined like that. Well, I'm sure that £9 million will help the poor fellow relax after his terrible ordeal. He didn't deserve be treated like that, he couldn't do his job. A sacked manager gets compensation out of his contract, a manager forced out must be due similiar.. i don't think you understand that he was being deliberately forced out. No, I don't understand that. In fact, I think the idea is completely daft. Do you honestly believe that Ashley appointed Keegan in January only to purposely engineer his departure in September? Why on earth do you believe such a thing? It's just as daft as suggesting Keegan only accepted the job with the intent to make a few bob, which some have done. Works both ways. or the in between possibility that keegan took the job and thought his force of personality would get him his own way...as it did first time round and at fulham. Perfectly plausible. There was an interesting article on the main site about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Nice edit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Poor, poor Kevin. It must have been earth-shattering to have to work with Dennis Wise and not have enough money to buy Lionel Messi. Let's give him £9 million to compensate for all that terrible suffering. The last two posts of yours I've read have probably been the most pathetic attempts to garner bites I've seen on this site. There's a lot of competition out there, but congratulations, you've nailed it. Well, I'm so f***ing sorry, but I haven't read a single argument about the nature of his departure -- of his choice to depart -- that comes within a light year of justifying a £9 million payout. I do realise he's a sacred cow, and that any criticism of him at all will be regarded by many as trolling, but that is my honest opinion. Well... It going to the court because of constructive dismissial whereby people above him made his job extremely difficult to do - in a deliberate attempt to get him to quit. Which he did! as couldn't handle it anymore.. especially after promising the fans a replacement for Milner - which a penny hasn't even arrived yet! Probably was super stressful being undermined like that. Well, I'm sure that £9 million will help the poor fellow relax after his terrible ordeal. He didn't deserve be treated like that, he couldn't do his job. A sacked manager gets compensation out of his contract, a manager forced out must be due similiar.. i don't think you understand that he was being deliberately forced out. No, I don't understand that. In fact, I think the idea is completely daft. Do you honestly believe that Ashley appointed Keegan in January only to purposely engineer his departure in September? Why on earth do you believe such a thing? It's just as daft as suggesting Keegan only accepted the job with the intent to make a few bob, which some have done. Works both ways. or the in between possibility that keegan took the job and thought his force of personality would get him his own way...as it did first time round and at fulham. Perfectly plausible. There was an interesting article on the main site about this. i don't know if this happened or not but it's as likely a scenario as the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Poor, poor Kevin. It must have been earth-shattering to have to work with Dennis Wise and not have enough money to buy Lionel Messi. Let's give him £9 million to compensate for all that terrible suffering. The last two posts of yours I've read have probably been the most pathetic attempts to garner bites I've seen on this site. There's a lot of competition out there, but congratulations, you've nailed it. Well, I'm so f***ing sorry, but I haven't read a single argument about the nature of his departure -- of his choice to depart -- that comes within a light year of justifying a £9 million payout. I do realise he's a sacred cow, and that any criticism of him at all will be regarded by many as trolling, but that is my honest opinion. Well... It going to the court because of constructive dismissial whereby people above him made his job extremely difficult to do - in a deliberate attempt to get him to quit. Which he did! as couldn't handle it anymore.. especially after promising the fans a replacement for Milner - which a penny hasn't even arrived yet! Probably was super stressful being undermined like that. Well, I'm sure that £9 million will help the poor fellow relax after his terrible ordeal. He didn't deserve be treated like that, he couldn't do his job. A sacked manager gets compensation out of his contract, a manager forced out must be due similiar.. i don't think you understand that he was being deliberately forced out. No, I don't understand that. In fact, I think the idea is completely daft. Do you honestly believe that Ashley appointed Keegan in January only to purposely engineer his departure in September? Why on earth do you believe such a thing? It's just as daft as suggesting Keegan only accepted the job with the intent to make a few bob, which some have done. Works both ways. So financial reward was no part of Keegan's motivation? I honestly think he would not have come back had Soccer Circus been doing well and raking it in. His heart never seemed completely in it, this time around. All of which, though, has absolutely zero bearing on a discussion of whether Ashley deliberately engineered his departure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brummiemag Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 this kind of s*** appearing in the papers almost every day probably gave the "general impression" most fans seem to have about an imminent massive spending spree; "A source close to the United owner told the Telegraph today that Mike has told Keegan he has a "bottomless pit" of money at his disposal as he attempts to turn the club into an exciting, attacking force capable of challenging English football's big four. Telegraph also reveals that the Tottenham striker Jermain Defoe, Chelsea winger Shaun Wright-Phillips and fullback Wayne Bridge, Barcelona's Deco, Celtic's Scott Brown, Bayern Munich's Belgian centre-half Daniel van Buyten and Manchester United's Wes Brown are among Keegan's first transfer list in January." Oh, come on. Even though that nonsense is a genuine quote, no one believed any such thing. Most supporters expected more than we got, though, as that was what we were made to believe. i disagree. the "average fan" is gullible and when they see those chronicle boards around town saying "keegan chasing henry" or "keegan's infinite funds", more often than not they believe it. the press only continue to write about made up stories if there are people buying into them and they kept writing about that s*** for a few months in the summer. Glad to know your an above average fan and not as gullible as the rest of us. Its got fuck all to do with the press, its my opinion that Keegan would not have taken the job unless he had been promised significant transfer funds and control over the funds. Its a shame that so many people on this forum seem to prefer to believe Ashley rather than Keegan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 this kind of s*** appearing in the papers almost every day probably gave the "general impression" most fans seem to have about an imminent massive spending spree; "A source close to the United owner told the Telegraph today that Mike has told Keegan he has a "bottomless pit" of money at his disposal as he attempts to turn the club into an exciting, attacking force capable of challenging English football's big four. Telegraph also reveals that the Tottenham striker Jermain Defoe, Chelsea winger Shaun Wright-Phillips and fullback Wayne Bridge, Barcelona's Deco, Celtic's Scott Brown, Bayern Munich's Belgian centre-half Daniel van Buyten and Manchester United's Wes Brown are among Keegan's first transfer list in January." Oh, come on. Even though that nonsense is a genuine quote, no one believed any such thing. Most supporters expected more than we got, though, as that was what we were made to believe. i disagree. the "average fan" is gullible and when they see those chronicle boards around town saying "keegan chasing henry" or "keegan's infinite funds", more often than not they believe it. the press only continue to write about made up stories if there are people buying into them and they kept writing about that s*** for a few months in the summer. Glad to know your an above average fan and not as gullible as the rest of us. Its got fuck all to do with the press, its my opinion that Keegan would not have taken the job unless he had been promised significant transfer funds and control over the funds. Its a shame that so many people on this forum seem to prefer to believe Ashley rather than Keegan lets assume you're correct and keegan was promised £100 million or so. he would have known early on in the window he had been lied to so why didnt he leave then? btw, after a small search i found this keegan quote from 7th may; "The fans are thinking 'How much money is there?'," he said. "I have a major responsibility to be realistic with them and to tell them that I am not going to get enough money to make major changes at this football club. I know that already. Major changes take massive finance and it's not massive finance." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Poor, poor Kevin. It must have been earth-shattering to have to work with Dennis Wise and not have enough money to buy Lionel Messi. Let's give him £9 million to compensate for all that terrible suffering. It all boils down ironically to the thing many are criticising KK of being - selfish. We selfishly expect an unhappy man to stick to his job just for us. We expect him to get on with people just for us. We expect him to forsake money just for us. We expect players to stay here for life just for us. We expect the owner to pump in his own money out of his own pocket just for us. We expect him to just f*** off and sell up even at a loss just for us. We expect him to pick KK over Wise just for us. We expect Wise to f*** off just for us. We expect too much of other people who I'll let you into a little secret do not and never will see things as we do where our club is concerned, be it KK or Shay Given, Ashley or Wise. Poor us more like... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Poor, poor Kevin. It must have been earth-shattering to have to work with Dennis Wise and not have enough money to buy Lionel Messi. Let's give him £9 million to compensate for all that terrible suffering. It all boils down ironically to the thing many are criticising KK of being - selfish. We selfishly expect an unhappy man to stick to his job just for us. We expect him to get on with people just for us. We expect him to forsake money just for us. We expect players to stay here for life just for us. We expect the owner to pump in his own money out of his own pocket just for us. We expect him to just f*** off and sell up even at a loss just for us. We expect him to pick KK over Wise just for us. We expect Wise to f*** off just for us. We expect too much of other people who I'll let you into a little secret do not and never will see things as we do where our club is concerned, be it KK or Shay Given, Ashley or Wise. Poor us more like... I agree with you completely, as it goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Poor, poor Kevin. It must have been earth-shattering to have to work with Dennis Wise and not have enough money to buy Lionel Messi. Let's give him £9 million to compensate for all that terrible suffering. It all boils down ironically to the thing many are criticising KK of being - selfish. We selfishly expect an unhappy man to stick to his job just for us. We expect him to get on with people just for us. We expect him to forsake money just for us. We expect players to stay here for life just for us. We expect the owner to pump in his own money out of his own pocket just for us. We expect him to just f*** off and sell up even at a loss just for us. We expect him to pick KK over Wise just for us. We expect Wise to f*** off just for us. We expect too much of other people who I'll let you into a little secret do not and never will see things as we do where our club is concerned, be it KK or Shay Given, Ashley or Wise. Poor us more like... I agree with you completely, as it goes. The NUFC die-hard in me thinks "how dare KK try and sue for walking out", just like the NUFC die-hard in me thinks "f*** Shay Given, if he doesn't want to be here, piss off" The realist thinks "KK is well within his rights to try and sue the club", if he wasn't the LMA, FA, solicitors and courts wouldn't allow him a case. He has one and the powers that be will determine whether he wins or not, likewise the club have a case too if only in response to KK taking it to the courts and again the powers that be will determine the outcome based on testimony, evidence etc. The logical me thinks "just because KK takes the club to court doesn't mean he doesn't have any affection for the club and fans", not that he is taking Newcastle United or any of us lot to court anyway, the club was not his employer, Mike Ashley was. Strictly speaking. Using hindsight it is clear as day tracing through the 8 months or so he was in charge that a series of things made KK unhappy and not just the one thing or even one person as is claimed and it will be these things that made him decide to leave, just like how back in '97 it wasn't just the floatation that forced him to resign. We must never try and belittle someone's principles either whether we think they be foolish or not. You cannot expect others to think and act just like you and I imagine many on here if faced with problems at work which impeded your ability to carry out your job to a self satisfactory level or made you unhappy, would also seriously think and maybe even act out walking away. I didn't and never will support KK's walking away because selfishly it left my club without a very good manager, made it true that things were not right and because I love the man and for what he stands for. But I support his right to walk away if he feels unhappy or undermined and would never ever criticise someone for doing what is best for them and what they feel is right for them as individuals. Furthermore, because I trust and respect the man (he's earned that at least), I trust his reasons for quitting. Despite what some have implied and would like to believe, KK would never have walked away from the job if he didn't think certain things were not right for HIM (forget what is right for NUFC or us lot as fans, it is all about and rightly so KK). To give up the adulation of a whole city, a very very good paying job, players who loved working with him, and a realistic goal of turning the club around and finishing the business he started? No f***ing way. He gets called a quitter, a bottler, but his entire life has been one of commitment, to the game, his philosophies, professionalism, hard work, good ethics, players and in our case, Newcastle United while he was here not just as a player but as a manager too. The almost character like assassinations on KK from FANS since the turn of September for me has been just as sickening as this whole ugly saga and if KK himself has questions to answer then so do some fans. Back to selfishness.... I understand it all by the way. NUFC is far more important and a more righteous cause than any single individual, be it KK or Shay Given. When our club is "attacked" be it the resignation of a manager or the transfer request from a player, we can feel attacked too because we are one with the club. KK, Shay, Wise et al never ever will be, they are mere passengers through history. This is why some fans turn on people like KK, Shay or indeed a Mike Ashley and while it isn't always excusable or right, its natural. It is also natural to defend KK or a Shay, to use them as martyrs against any perceived evil-doing. In the case of KK, Ashley and Wise and our own selfish view of NUFC which is you're either one of us or you're not. We cannot except that people can be part of us which KK most certainly is and always will be, and Ashley too. You have to be one of us though. This is why you have the two contrasting ideas or emotions. Basically both Ashley and KK have sort of attacked our value of NUFC and our selfish desires for our beloved club. KK by walking away and Ashley for allowing it to happen. Me I always go back to my default settings of trust in matters of the unknown and I trust KK over Ashley and co and always will do until they one day show the same level of commitments he has and earned the same level of respect and trust that can only be won by success at MY football club, again it all boils down to selfishness and what I want. Do well by my club and with it me and Ashley can be a hero. Don't do well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Another great post HTT. Agree especially with the final paragraph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OzzieMandias Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Poor, poor Kevin. It must have been earth-shattering to have to work with Dennis Wise and not have enough money to buy Lionel Messi. Let's give him £9 million to compensate for all that terrible suffering. The last two posts of yours I've read have probably been the most pathetic attempts to garner bites I've seen on this site. There's a lot of competition out there, but congratulations, you've nailed it. Well, I'm so f***ing sorry, but I haven't read a single argument about the nature of his departure -- of his choice to depart -- that comes within a light year of justifying a £9 million payout. I do realise he's a sacred cow, and that any criticism of him at all will be regarded by many as trolling, but that is my honest opinion. Is there any clarification anywhere of there being a £9m payout? I haven't seen any. That's what he's sueing the club for. Matter of public record. other than press speculation, can you tell us where you get this info from? A Google new search for "Keegan tribunal £9 million" turns up 240 news stories. http://news.google.co.uk/news?pz=1&ned=uk&hl=en&q=keegan+tribunal+£9+million If you don't believe the literally hundreds of press reports, what would you believe? A stone tablet handed down from the Messiah? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sheds Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Poor, poor Kevin. It must have been earth-shattering to have to work with Dennis Wise and not have enough money to buy Lionel Messi. Let's give him £9 million to compensate for all that terrible suffering. The last two posts of yours I've read have probably been the most pathetic attempts to garner bites I've seen on this site. There's a lot of competition out there, but congratulations, you've nailed it. Well, I'm so f***ing sorry, but I haven't read a single argument about the nature of his departure -- of his choice to depart -- that comes within a light year of justifying a £9 million payout. I do realise he's a sacred cow, and that any criticism of him at all will be regarded by many as trolling, but that is my honest opinion. Is there any clarification anywhere of there being a £9m payout? I haven't seen any. That's what he's sueing the club for. Matter of public record. other than press speculation, can you tell us where you get this info from? A Google new search for "Keegan tribunal £9 million" turns up 240 news stories. http://news.google.co.uk/news?pz=1&ned=uk&hl=en&q=keegan+tribunal+£9+million If you don't believe the literally hundreds of press reports, what would you believe? A stone tablet handed down from the Messiah? TBH that could be the same story on hundreds of sites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 literally hundreds of press reports said Keegan had been sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 You all think you know exactly what happened regarding Keegan's departure, despite there being no actual facts in the public domain at all other than that he left the club. But a fact reported in literally hundreds of newspapers -- the amount Keegan is claiming in his lawsuit against the club -- isn't good enough for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 who said they know exactly what happened regarding Keegan's departure? you used a pretty stupid argument to back up your claim that it is a matter of public record, that hundreds of news stories were reporting it as fact. but hundreds of news sources also reported that Keegan was sacked. the amount of outlets reporting a given story does not verify the truth of the story. 1 newspaper could be right, and a hundred could be wrong, consensus does not equal truth. that's before you get into the fact that often, when disparate outlets make a claim. they actually have the same source which could be wrong, or that, in google news results, many outlets simply re-report what another outlet has claimed rather than provide an original article on the matter, or, perhaps most crucially here, that the "240 news stories" do not actually make the claim, the 240 number is the amount of RELATED stories which may focus on the keegan tribunal or may focus on an entirely different matter related to NUFC. In this case, of the first 5 links that appear as related, only ONE (goal.com) mentions the £9m claim, and, funnily enough, it is simply re-itering the original claim made in the Mirror. And im not sure why the size of the claim is that important anyway. even if he was claiming £9m i doubt he'd get it, and would settle out of court just as Robson did for £2m. i didnt blame Robson for taking money in that case because he had a legitimate claim, i blamed Shepherd for being bloody stupid. Likewise, any subsequent payout to keegan is yet another consequence of Ashley's mismanagement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 It's a matter of public record. Keegan has filed a claim for £9 million. Fact. An extremely widely reported one. Your attempt to talk it away is, quite frankly, ludicrous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 There were a number of stories reporting that Man U beat Fulham yesterday. I suppose that was just speculation, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 There were a number of stories reporting that Man U beat Fulham yesterday. I suppose that was just speculation, too. Yes, but that was because there was actual evidence that this happened i.e. we saw it happening, live, on tv. Except for newspaper reports, which are unreliable, at best, what is the evidence for this £9m claim? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 There were a number of stories reporting that Man U beat Fulham yesterday. I suppose that was just speculation, too. Yes, but that was because there was actual evidence that this happened i.e. we saw it happening, live, on tv. Except for newspaper reports, which are unreliable, at best, what is the evidence for this £9m claim? You saw it on TV? Well, that's the same old "media", isn't it? Probably just a bunch of actors dressed up in Man U and Fulham kit. Meanwhile, the amount KK is after will have been filed with the relevant tribunal when he launched his action, and announced to the press at the same time. Can anyone find one single article where the £9 million figure is in dispute? Of course you can't. Do you think an erroneous or invented figure will have been reported absolutely everywhere without anyone from the Keegan camp correcting the mistake? Well, I guess you Keegan fans will believe anything, as long as it doesn't cast The Messiah in a bad light. This is like debating evolution with a bunch of evangelical Christians. "God just put those dinosaur bones in the ground to test our faith!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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