BOYCOTT the protest rally !!

Happy Face · February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

It was called for repeatedly in the meeting last wednesday, and reported in the media as something that the NUSC have endorsed, like I say I am not prepared to do this and have said why. Anyone who wants to boycott the club's merchandise etc can do, but I personally can see that doing more harm than good.

I'd like to see those media reports if you have a link.

You'll get individuals calling for all sorts of things (like boycotting games), but that's the good thing about the NUSC, they'll not put into action something unless the majority are in agreement.

As long as it's a thousand or so people the vocal minority of radgies will find it easier. Perhaps when more people like yourself join and promote inaction the NUSC will vote to reverse their position on a merchandise boycott.

Listen to the weblink of the meeting again.

Just for starters

http://www.true-faith.co.uk/tf/nusc.nsf?OpenDatabase

http://www.true-faith.co.uk/tf/nusc.nsf/0/8E0B38FDBBD657B1802574E10046E708/$file/NUSCnewsletter1steditiondraft.pdf

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/10/30/nufc-supporters-club-vows-to-boycott-ashley-72703-22151426/

http://www.newcastle-united-supporters-club.co.uk/farrington0911.php

Parky · February 12, 2009

Well I for one am not prepared to give up buying my season ticket by direct debit. It is the best option for me, financially, as I can spread the payments and I am paying no more now for my ticket than I was last year. And last year my season ticket was £50 cheaper than it was the year before! I will not pay more for individual match tickets, seeing that I will be at all the home games next season as I cannot justify the extra expense when I can get the same seat cheaper by buying it upfront.

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

Thirdly, I won't be joining NUSC or joining any of their protests or rallies, until they are clearer about what they really stand for. They claim to be a supporters club, and yet continually to make the supporters look stupid by releasing ill-thought out statements on SSN etc claiming to speak for the majority. Well, 600 members out of a ground that holds 52,000 (and not including supporters who cannot attend the matches) is not a majority. I am impressed that the helped the fans who were picked on at Middlesbrough, but to be honest they have done little else. They claim to have brought the stewarding problems to the fore at Newcastle. Well I phoned the club on the monday after the Tottenham game and complained about the stewarding, and I emailed the match day police with a video of the steward hitting the fan in level 7. I have had a phone call back to say that due to the video and complaints including mine the stewards are going to be a mix of the longer working stewards and new blokes up in level 7 now. It didn't take a £10 membership fee and a committee to do that.

I don't need a keyring, badge and car-sticker to tell me I am a Newcastle United fan. I don't need some bloke with a megaphone by the monument to tell me that the club is being ran badly. I know Ashley is not the bloke to take this club forward, but until there is another option there, then what can we do. We cannot force Ashley to sell the club to someone who isn't there.

How much are they paying you mate?

February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

Well I for one am not prepared to give up buying my season ticket by direct debit. It is the best option for me, financially, as I can spread the payments and I am paying no more now for my ticket than I was last year. And last year my season ticket was £50 cheaper than it was the year before! I will not pay more for individual match tickets, seeing that I will be at all the home games next season as I cannot justify the extra expense when I can get the same seat cheaper by buying it upfront.

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

Thirdly, I won't be joining NUSC or joining any of their protests or rallies, until they are clearer about what they really stand for. They claim to be a supporters club, and yet continually to make the supporters look stupid by releasing ill-thought out statements on SSN etc claiming to speak for the majority. Well, 600 members out of a ground that holds 52,000 (and not including supporters who cannot attend the matches) is not a majority. I am impressed that the helped the fans who were picked on at Middlesbrough, but to be honest they have done little else. They claim to have brought the stewarding problems to the fore at Newcastle. Well I phoned the club on the monday after the Tottenham game and complained about the stewarding, and I emailed the match day police with a video of the steward hitting the fan in level 7. I have had a phone call back to say that due to the video and complaints including mine the stewards are going to be a mix of the longer working stewards and new blokes up in level 7 now. It didn't take a £10 membership fee and a committee to do that.

I don't need a keyring, badge and car-sticker to tell me I am a Newcastle United fan. I don't need some bloke with a megaphone by the monument to tell me that the club is being ran badly. I know Ashley is not the bloke to take this club forward, but until there is another option there, then what can we do. We cannot force Ashley to sell the club to someone who isn't there.

How much are they paying you mate?

Who?

Happy Face · February 12, 2009

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/10/30/nufc-supporters-club-vows-to-boycott-ashley-72703-22151426/

Cheers

"Around 50 of the Newcastle United Supporters Club (NUSC) who turned out at its first public meeting agreed to continue the action launched after Kevin Keegan’s departure."

:blush:

Not sure those 50 people are still keeping it up after 6 months and the failure to sell up as promised.

OzzieMandias · February 12, 2009

Can you at least except you're mistakes on previous arguments

We've paid off all our debt, but we've still got loads of debt with more to come.
Our wage bill is too high, but Ashley has increased the wage bill.
We need investment, but Ashley turns down offers of investment from local businessmen.
It's cheaper to pay a DOF to bring in players than let the manager do it, but the DOF is paid 150% more than the manager.

For all the tales of woe, they don't actually seem to be that worried about it or doing much to sort it.

Is that true? Don't think I've seen it before.

According to Mike Ashley it is...

?So when you are Mike Ashley at Newcastle United then of course you think partners would make sense. And, if I can, I?d like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing?

?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

?I?d tell them we?d look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/08/08/mike-ashley-exclusive-chronicle-interview-72703-21492315/

But he's been known to talk bollocks....which is exactly ther point.

And where does he turn down offers of investment, exactly? The context of that quote was him announcing that he was looking for investors!

"I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

Exactly. No refusal there at all.

When you asked that tart out and she said "some other time" that was a knock back mate. I know you don't like to think so, but it was.

Feeble.

"There are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? ?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

Either they've invested since or he's knocked them back or he was making it up at the time. Which is it?

Whatever it is, it's clearly not a refusal. In fact, it seems more like an invitation.

He's inventing imaginary questions for himself in an attempt to attract people to the club? That reminds me of someone...

So now you're saying it's lie. So it's still not a refusal.

Parky · February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

Well I for one am not prepared to give up buying my season ticket by direct debit. It is the best option for me, financially, as I can spread the payments and I am paying no more now for my ticket than I was last year. And last year my season ticket was £50 cheaper than it was the year before! I will not pay more for individual match tickets, seeing that I will be at all the home games next season as I cannot justify the extra expense when I can get the same seat cheaper by buying it upfront.

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

Thirdly, I won't be joining NUSC or joining any of their protests or rallies, until they are clearer about what they really stand for. They claim to be a supporters club, and yet continually to make the supporters look stupid by releasing ill-thought out statements on SSN etc claiming to speak for the majority. Well, 600 members out of a ground that holds 52,000 (and not including supporters who cannot attend the matches) is not a majority. I am impressed that the helped the fans who were picked on at Middlesbrough, but to be honest they have done little else. They claim to have brought the stewarding problems to the fore at Newcastle. Well I phoned the club on the monday after the Tottenham game and complained about the stewarding, and I emailed the match day police with a video of the steward hitting the fan in level 7. I have had a phone call back to say that due to the video and complaints including mine the stewards are going to be a mix of the longer working stewards and new blokes up in level 7 now. It didn't take a £10 membership fee and a committee to do that.

I don't need a keyring, badge and car-sticker to tell me I am a Newcastle United fan. I don't need some bloke with a megaphone by the monument to tell me that the club is being ran badly. I know Ashley is not the bloke to take this club forward, but until there is another option there, then what can we do. We cannot force Ashley to sell the club to someone who isn't there.

How much are they paying you mate?

Who?

MENCAP

February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

She actually....

The thing I do see is that money will have to be paid for the day to day running of the club. If we are not putting money into the club through merchandising etc then the cost of the day to day running of the club has to come from somewhere. I didn't express any hope, it is just a reality. Ashley will have to put more money in to cover day to day costs (wages of non-playing staff ~ you know the ordinary folks of the north-east who do the shop work, office work, cleaning etc) and other costs involved leaving less to go towards players. Its just common sense that something has to give if we stop supporting the club financially and the transfers in of players will probably be it.

Happy Face · February 12, 2009

Can you at least except you're mistakes on previous arguments

We've paid off all our debt, but we've still got loads of debt with more to come.
Our wage bill is too high, but Ashley has increased the wage bill.
We need investment, but Ashley turns down offers of investment from local businessmen.
It's cheaper to pay a DOF to bring in players than let the manager do it, but the DOF is paid 150% more than the manager.

For all the tales of woe, they don't actually seem to be that worried about it or doing much to sort it.

Is that true? Don't think I've seen it before.

According to Mike Ashley it is...

?So when you are Mike Ashley at Newcastle United then of course you think partners would make sense. And, if I can, I?d like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing?

?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

?I?d tell them we?d look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/08/08/mike-ashley-exclusive-chronicle-interview-72703-21492315/

But he's been known to talk bollocks....which is exactly ther point.

And where does he turn down offers of investment, exactly? The context of that quote was him announcing that he was looking for investors!

"I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

Exactly. No refusal there at all.

When you asked that tart out and she said "some other time" that was a knock back mate. I know you don't like to think so, but it was.

Feeble.

"There are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? ?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

Either they've invested since or he's knocked them back or he was making it up at the time. Which is it?

Whatever it is, it's clearly not a refusal. In fact, it seems more like an invitation.

He's inventing imaginary questions for himself in an attempt to attract people to the club? That reminds me of someone...

So now you're saying it's lie. So it's still not a refusal.

I'm asking you what it is. I still call it a refusal....if it happened.

Do you believe anyone asked the question?

Parky · February 12, 2009

Can you at least except you're mistakes on previous arguments

We've paid off all our debt, but we've still got loads of debt with more to come.
Our wage bill is too high, but Ashley has increased the wage bill.
We need investment, but Ashley turns down offers of investment from local businessmen.
It's cheaper to pay a DOF to bring in players than let the manager do it, but the DOF is paid 150% more than the manager.

For all the tales of woe, they don't actually seem to be that worried about it or doing much to sort it.

Is that true? Don't think I've seen it before.

According to Mike Ashley it is...

?So when you are Mike Ashley at Newcastle United then of course you think partners would make sense. And, if I can, I?d like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing?

?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

?I?d tell them we?d look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/08/08/mike-ashley-exclusive-chronicle-interview-72703-21492315/

But he's been known to talk bollocks....which is exactly ther point.

And where does he turn down offers of investment, exactly? The context of that quote was him announcing that he was looking for investors!

"I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

Exactly. No refusal there at all.

When you asked that tart out and she said "some other time" that was a knock back mate. I know you don't like to think so, but it was.

Feeble.

"There are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? ?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

Either they've invested since or he's knocked them back or he was making it up at the time. Which is it?

Whatever it is, it's clearly not a refusal. In fact, it seems more like an invitation.

He's inventing imaginary questions for himself in an attempt to attract people to the club? That reminds me of someone...

So now you're saying it's lie. So it's still not a refusal.

The girls must love you.

Parky · February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

She actually....

The thing I do see is that money will have to be paid for the day to day running of the club. If we are not putting money into the club through merchandising etc then the cost of the day to day running of the club has to come from somewhere. I didn't express any hope, it is just a reality. Ashley will have to put more money in to cover day to day costs (wages of non-playing staff ~ you know the ordinary folks of the north-east who do the shop work, office work, cleaning etc) and other costs involved leaving less to go towards players. Its just common sense that something has to give if we stop supporting the club financially and the transfers in of players will probably be it.

Isn't toonlass the former well renowned and persisitent god botherer?

February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

Well I for one am not prepared to give up buying my season ticket by direct debit. It is the best option for me, financially, as I can spread the payments and I am paying no more now for my ticket than I was last year. And last year my season ticket was £50 cheaper than it was the year before! I will not pay more for individual match tickets, seeing that I will be at all the home games next season as I cannot justify the extra expense when I can get the same seat cheaper by buying it upfront.

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

Thirdly, I won't be joining NUSC or joining any of their protests or rallies, until they are clearer about what they really stand for. They claim to be a supporters club, and yet continually to make the supporters look stupid by releasing ill-thought out statements on SSN etc claiming to speak for the majority. Well, 600 members out of a ground that holds 52,000 (and not including supporters who cannot attend the matches) is not a majority. I am impressed that the helped the fans who were picked on at Middlesbrough, but to be honest they have done little else. They claim to have brought the stewarding problems to the fore at Newcastle. Well I phoned the club on the monday after the Tottenham game and complained about the stewarding, and I emailed the match day police with a video of the steward hitting the fan in level 7. I have had a phone call back to say that due to the video and complaints including mine the stewards are going to be a mix of the longer working stewards and new blokes up in level 7 now. It didn't take a £10 membership fee and a committee to do that.

I don't need a keyring, badge and car-sticker to tell me I am a Newcastle United fan. I don't need some bloke with a megaphone by the monument to tell me that the club is being ran badly. I know Ashley is not the bloke to take this club forward, but until there is another option there, then what can we do. We cannot force Ashley to sell the club to someone who isn't there.

How much are they paying you mate?

Who?

MENCAP

Are you being facetious?

February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

She actually....

The thing I do see is that money will have to be paid for the day to day running of the club. If we are not putting money into the club through merchandising etc then the cost of the day to day running of the club has to come from somewhere. I didn't express any hope, it is just a reality. Ashley will have to put more money in to cover day to day costs (wages of non-playing staff ~ you know the ordinary folks of the north-east who do the shop work, office work, cleaning etc) and other costs involved leaving less to go towards players. Its just common sense that something has to give if we stop supporting the club financially and the transfers in of players will probably be it.

Isn't toonlass the former well renowned and persisitent god botherer?

What has that got to do with anything?

TRon · February 12, 2009

Can you at least except you're mistakes on previous arguments

We've paid off all our debt, but we've still got loads of debt with more to come.
Our wage bill is too high, but Ashley has increased the wage bill.
We need investment, but Ashley turns down offers of investment from local businessmen.
It's cheaper to pay a DOF to bring in players than let the manager do it, but the DOF is paid 150% more than the manager.

For all the tales of woe, they don't actually seem to be that worried about it or doing much to sort it.

Is that true? Don't think I've seen it before.

According to Mike Ashley it is...

?So when you are Mike Ashley at Newcastle United then of course you think partners would make sense. And, if I can, I?d like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing?

?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

?I?d tell them we?d look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/08/08/mike-ashley-exclusive-chronicle-interview-72703-21492315/

But he's been known to talk bollocks....which is exactly ther point.

And where does he turn down offers of investment, exactly? The context of that quote was him announcing that he was looking for investors!

"I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

Exactly. No refusal there at all.

When you asked that tart out and she said "some other time" that was a knock back mate. I know you don't like to think so, but it was.

Feeble.

"There are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? ?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

Either they've invested since or he's knocked them back or he was making it up at the time. Which is it?

Whatever it is, it's clearly not a refusal. In fact, it seems more like an invitation.

He's inventing imaginary questions for himself in an attempt to attract people to the club? That reminds me of someone...

So now you're saying it's lie. So it's still not a refusal.

I'm asking you what it is. I still call it a refusal....if it happened.

Do you believe anyone asked the question?

Why would Ashley make up a story about looking for partners to invest in the club if he didn't want to do it?

Parky · February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

She actually....

The thing I do see is that money will have to be paid for the day to day running of the club. If we are not putting money into the club through merchandising etc then the cost of the day to day running of the club has to come from somewhere. I didn't express any hope, it is just a reality. Ashley will have to put more money in to cover day to day costs (wages of non-playing staff ~ you know the ordinary folks of the north-east who do the shop work, office work, cleaning etc) and other costs involved leaving less to go towards players. Its just common sense that something has to give if we stop supporting the club financially and the transfers in of players will probably be it.

Isn't toonlass the former well renowned and persisitent god botherer?

What has that got to do with anything?

Oh nothing.

Happy Face · February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

She actually....

The thing I do see is that money will have to be paid for the day to day running of the club. If we are not putting money into the club through merchandising etc then the cost of the day to day running of the club has to come from somewhere. I didn't express any hope, it is just a reality. Ashley will have to put more money in to cover day to day costs (wages of non-playing staff ~ you know the ordinary folks of the north-east who do the shop work, office work, cleaning etc) and other costs involved leaving less to go towards players. Its just common sense that something has to give if we stop supporting the club financially and the transfers in of players will probably be it.

We've still got one of the highest gates in the league, best selling strips, and fattest beer, guzzling pie eaters in any stadium.

Do you believe the 50 people still boycotting are the reason for our lack of transfer investment and decrepit manager?

February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

She actually....

The thing I do see is that money will have to be paid for the day to day running of the club. If we are not putting money into the club through merchandising etc then the cost of the day to day running of the club has to come from somewhere. I didn't express any hope, it is just a reality. Ashley will have to put more money in to cover day to day costs (wages of non-playing staff ~ you know the ordinary folks of the north-east who do the shop work, office work, cleaning etc) and other costs involved leaving less to go towards players. Its just common sense that something has to give if we stop supporting the club financially and the transfers in of players will probably be it.

We've still got one of the highest gates in the league, best selling strips, and fattest beer, guzzling pie eaters in any stadium.

Do you believe the 50 people still boycotting are the reason for our lack of transfer investment and decrepit manager?

I am saying I do not agree with NUSC's stance for promoting this boycott. That's all.

Happy Face · February 12, 2009

Can you at least except you're mistakes on previous arguments

We've paid off all our debt, but we've still got loads of debt with more to come.
Our wage bill is too high, but Ashley has increased the wage bill.
We need investment, but Ashley turns down offers of investment from local businessmen.
It's cheaper to pay a DOF to bring in players than let the manager do it, but the DOF is paid 150% more than the manager.

For all the tales of woe, they don't actually seem to be that worried about it or doing much to sort it.

Is that true? Don't think I've seen it before.

According to Mike Ashley it is...

?So when you are Mike Ashley at Newcastle United then of course you think partners would make sense. And, if I can, I?d like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing?

?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

?I?d tell them we?d look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/08/08/mike-ashley-exclusive-chronicle-interview-72703-21492315/

But he's been known to talk bollocks....which is exactly ther point.

And where does he turn down offers of investment, exactly? The context of that quote was him announcing that he was looking for investors!

"I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

Exactly. No refusal there at all.

When you asked that tart out and she said "some other time" that was a knock back mate. I know you don't like to think so, but it was.

Feeble.

"There are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? ?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

Either they've invested since or he's knocked them back or he was making it up at the time. Which is it?

Whatever it is, it's clearly not a refusal. In fact, it seems more like an invitation.

He's inventing imaginary questions for himself in an attempt to attract people to the club? That reminds me of someone...

So now you're saying it's lie. So it's still not a refusal.

I'm asking you what it is. I still call it a refusal....if it happened.

Do you believe anyone asked the question?

Why would Ashley make up a story about looking for partners to invest in the club if he didn't want to do it?

I have no doubt he was looking for investment. But he claims he's had former shareholders offering to invest.

If he has, why has he not taken them up on it?

If he hasn't, why's he telling porky pies?

Parky · February 12, 2009

Can you at least except you're mistakes on previous arguments

We've paid off all our debt, but we've still got loads of debt with more to come.
Our wage bill is too high, but Ashley has increased the wage bill.
We need investment, but Ashley turns down offers of investment from local businessmen.
It's cheaper to pay a DOF to bring in players than let the manager do it, but the DOF is paid 150% more than the manager.

For all the tales of woe, they don't actually seem to be that worried about it or doing much to sort it.

Is that true? Don't think I've seen it before.

According to Mike Ashley it is...

?So when you are Mike Ashley at Newcastle United then of course you think partners would make sense. And, if I can, I?d like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing?

?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

?I?d tell them we?d look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/08/08/mike-ashley-exclusive-chronicle-interview-72703-21492315/

But he's been known to talk bollocks....which is exactly ther point.

And where does he turn down offers of investment, exactly? The context of that quote was him announcing that he was looking for investors!

"I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

Exactly. No refusal there at all.

When you asked that tart out and she said "some other time" that was a knock back mate. I know you don't like to think so, but it was.

Feeble.

"There are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? ?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

Either they've invested since or he's knocked them back or he was making it up at the time. Which is it?

Whatever it is, it's clearly not a refusal. In fact, it seems more like an invitation.

He's inventing imaginary questions for himself in an attempt to attract people to the club? That reminds me of someone...

So now you're saying it's lie. So it's still not a refusal.

I'm asking you what it is. I still call it a refusal....if it happened.

Do you believe anyone asked the question?

Why would Ashley make up a story about looking for partners to invest in the club if he didn't want to do it?

Why wuld him and his cronies make up stories full stop.

Here's a tiny sample or the rebounding 'stories'...

QUOTE(Happy Face @ Dec 29 2008, 06:29 PM)

QUOTE

"The caliber of player we want to bring in is someone with a lot of Premiership experience or Champions League experience and they are in short supply. We are at a stage where we don't want to just bring players in to add to the squad, we want players who are going to be in the first team."

Chris Mort 02/08/2007

"NEWCASTLE United have completed the signing of midfielder Danny Guthrie from Liverpool. The 21-year-old put pen to paper on a four-year contract at St. James' Park on Friday evening after the Magpies agreed a fee with the Reds."

NUFC 11/07/2008

"NEWCASTLE United have agreed a fee with FC Metz for France under-21 defender Sebastien Bassong."

NUFC 30/07/2008

"NEWCASTLE United have completed the signing of Spain under-21 striker Francisco "Xisco" Jimenez Tejada."

NUFC 01/09/2008

"The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth."

Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

QUOTE

"The team is going to need time to get things right and we're going to give them time to get it right. We will get it right eventually."

Chris Mort 07/12/2007

"Newcastle United has parted company with Sam Allardyce as its Manager with immediate effect."

NUFC 09/01/2008

QUOTE

"I'd like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn’t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? Some of them would talk to me last season and say, "Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously?" I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush but why wouldn't I welcome people who wanted to invest?"

Mike Ashley 08/08/2008

I am Mike Ashley, not Mike Ashley a multi-billionaire with unlimited resources. Newcastle United and I can't do what other clubs can. We can't afford it.

Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

QUOTE

"I am now a dad who can't take his kids to a football game on a Saturday because I am advised that we would be assaulted"

Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"A number of groups came to the ground to carry out their lawful protest and I would like to praise those fans for the way in which they behaved."

Ch Supt Paul Weir, Northumbria Police's match commander 14/09/2008

"We gave no formal advice to Mr Ashley about not attending Saturday's game. It is not our place to do so."

Northumbria Police 16/09/2008

QUOTE

"This club had £100million-worth of debt which has now been cleared"

Chris Mort 07/05/2008

"I then poured another £110 million into the club not to pay off the debt but just to reduce it. The club is still in debt. Even worse than that, the club still owes millions of pounds in transfer fees."

Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"Financially we're very sound. We don't owe a bean as far as the club are concerned"

Joe Kinnear 02/01/2009

QUOTE

"Arsenal is the shining example in England of a sustainable business model."

Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"If I go into a job and someone says to me that you have a director of football who buys and sells the players, I accept or don't accept it. If I accept it, I cannot complain. I would personally not accept that"

Arsene Wenger 12/09/2008

QUOTE

"I'm here to help Kevin, bringing young players through and also recommend certain players to him. He'll say yes and no, he has the final word, no-one else. Everything that happens will be run past him. I'm not going to bring players in behind his back - I'm not into that."

Dennis Wise 01/02/2008

"We have started talking about who we will be bringing in and Kevin will have the final say"

Chris Mort 07/05/2008

"It is a fact that Kevin Keegan, as manager, had specific duties in that he was responsible for the training, coaching, selection and motivation of the Team. It is a fact that Kevin Keegan was allowed to manage his specific duties without any interference from any Board member. It is a fact that Kevin Keegan agreed only to deal with the media in relation to Club matters relating to the Team and not to communicate with the media in relation to the acquisition or disposal of players."

NUFC 06/09/2008

QUOTE

“I understand investors are about to buy the club, Mike Ashley told me openly. I will be here for six to eight games. I am aware that the new owners have Kevin Keegan and possibly Alan Shearer parked around the corner.”

Joe Kinnear 25/09/2008

"NEWCASTLE United have announced today that Joe Kinnear has signed a contract as manager until the end of the 2008/09 season."

NUFC 28/11/2008

QUOTE

"I am no longer prepared to subsidise Newcastle United. I am putting the club up for sale. You don't need to demonstrate against me again because I have got the message."

Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"I have withdrawn Newcastle United from the market"

Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

QUOTE

"I gave you my word that as long as I remain owner, this club would continue to be run responsibly at all levels. I hope you will accept that I have stood by that pledge."

Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

Quote released when Newcastle where 2 points off the relegation places, halfway through the season

QUOTE

“Joe’s the man to do the job. He’s my hero. Is he better than Capello? Definitely. We are going to be in Europe by the end of the season!”

Mike Ashley 18/12/2008

Outcome pending

QUOTE

"He [Given] won't be leaving, he has no interest in that whatsoever. He loves the football club, he's part of the city and that suits us because he's a world-class goalkeeper. He's very happy here, he's very comfortable at Newcastle United."

Joe Kinnear 31/12/2008

"Shay is very despondent, all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival. Having served the club loyally for over 11 years, Shay feels compelled to consider his position"

Michael Kennedy 01/01/2009

QUOTE

"I have enquired about Ferguson, but we will wait and see what the outcome is."

Joe Kinnear 03/01/2009

"As far as my chairman, my chief executive and myself are concerned, there's been no contact with Newcastle or any other club regarding Barry."

Walter Smith 05/01/2009

QUOTE

"I have withdrawn Newcastle United from the market. Any potential buyer would have to show they had the best interests of Newcastle United at heart and had both the commitment and finance to be worthy custodians of such a fine football club before I would even consider doing a deal."

Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

“A few weeks ago there was a decent degree of positive thought and optimism that there would be a buyer and then, amongst others, Mr Madoff came along. There were two people that were looking at Newcastle with us who lost, let’s say, over $300m to Madoff. Let’s face it, it (the Madoff scandal) holed everything beneath the water line. The people who were investing with him followed their peers and they should have done their due diligence and all those things and they didn’t. That came at the end of a two or three-month period of absolute decline in all the stock markets, financial markets and banking markets.”

Keith Harris 09/01/2009

QUOTE

"I've spoken to my bosses at the club. They know what my aims are and what I want to continue to progress. As soon as a big club knocks on the door with a good offer, I don't think they'll prevent me leaving."

Charles N'Zogbia 08/01/2009

"The agent’s being disrespectful. He’s never had the decency to explain anything to any member of this football club. It’s laughable, to be honest. It’s absolute nonsense. Charles is under contract until 2012, and I told him on day one that he was a very important player."

Joe Kinnear 09/01/2009

QUOTE

“Over the course of the year I’ve spoken to lots of fans about how we can improve things at St James’ Park"

Chris Mort 22/05/2009

"The SJP Box Office telephone number has now been changed with immediate effect to: 0844 372 1892."

NUFC.com 20/01/2009

"01/02 phone numbers are used for everyday local and national calls and can be included in any free or discounted minutes on your tariff. If you don’t have inclusive minutes for these, you’ll typically pay around 4p per minute (ppm) peak and around 1.5ppm off-peak from landlines.

0844 is a revenue-sharing number that is not included in 'free' or discounted minutes. Calls to 0844 phone numbers cost up to 5p a minute from landlines at all times of day, and typically between 15p (if you're a 3 mobile customer) and 40p per minute from mobiles. Depending on your network, call charges may be higher on pay as you go than on a contract."

Which.co.uk

QUOTE

“I have been out of the country and just returned. I don’t know anything about this. If I have been appointed as coach of Newcastle United then that is certainly news to me.”

Colin Calderwood 20/01/2009

"We have Colin Calderwood on board now, he will be joining us until the end of the season to bring something else to our backroom team."

Joe Kinnear 26/01/2009

QUOTE

"I am the first to accept there have been times this season when you would have liked to have heard more from me direct, particularly at certain points. There have been reasons why I have not have been able to do that, but in the new year we will look to communicate with you more about what we are doing at St.James' Park, be it through the club's official website, programme and magazine as well as the wider media."

Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

“Mike is going to speak to the Press when the window shuts."

Joe Kinnear 15/01/2009

"I think they will sit down with supporters' groups and fans and the people of Newcastle at the end of the season - I know they want to do that."

Joe Kinnear 05/02/2009

QUOTE

"I'm physically AOK"

Joe Kinnear 22/11/2008

“Joe Kinnear was admitted to hospital on Saturday morning."

NUFC 07/02/2009

OzzieMandias · February 12, 2009

Can you at least except you're mistakes on previous arguments

We've paid off all our debt, but we've still got loads of debt with more to come.
Our wage bill is too high, but Ashley has increased the wage bill.
We need investment, but Ashley turns down offers of investment from local businessmen.
It's cheaper to pay a DOF to bring in players than let the manager do it, but the DOF is paid 150% more than the manager.

For all the tales of woe, they don't actually seem to be that worried about it or doing much to sort it.

Is that true? Don't think I've seen it before.

According to Mike Ashley it is...

?So when you are Mike Ashley at Newcastle United then of course you think partners would make sense. And, if I can, I?d like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing?

?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

?I?d tell them we?d look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/08/08/mike-ashley-exclusive-chronicle-interview-72703-21492315/

But he's been known to talk bollocks....which is exactly ther point.

And where does he turn down offers of investment, exactly? The context of that quote was him announcing that he was looking for investors!

"I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

Exactly. No refusal there at all.

When you asked that tart out and she said "some other time" that was a knock back mate. I know you don't like to think so, but it was.

Feeble.

"There are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? ?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

Either they've invested since or he's knocked them back or he was making it up at the time. Which is it?

Whatever it is, it's clearly not a refusal. In fact, it seems more like an invitation.

He's inventing imaginary questions for himself in an attempt to attract people to the club? That reminds me of someone...

So now you're saying it's lie. So it's still not a refusal.

I'm asking you what it is. I still call it a refusal....if it happened.

Leaving aside your obvious difficulties with the English language, if you doubt that it even happened, how can you cite it as proof of something? Or do normal rules of logic and debate simply get suspending when it comes to sticking the boot into Ashley?

February 12, 2009

Can you at least except you're mistakes on previous arguments

We've paid off all our debt, but we've still got loads of debt with more to come.
Our wage bill is too high, but Ashley has increased the wage bill.
We need investment, but Ashley turns down offers of investment from local businessmen.
It's cheaper to pay a DOF to bring in players than let the manager do it, but the DOF is paid 150% more than the manager.

For all the tales of woe, they don't actually seem to be that worried about it or doing much to sort it.

Is that true? Don't think I've seen it before.

According to Mike Ashley it is...

?So when you are Mike Ashley at Newcastle United then of course you think partners would make sense. And, if I can, I?d like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing?

?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

?I?d tell them we?d look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/08/08/mike-ashley-exclusive-chronicle-interview-72703-21492315/

But he's been known to talk bollocks....which is exactly ther point.

And where does he turn down offers of investment, exactly? The context of that quote was him announcing that he was looking for investors!

"I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

Exactly. No refusal there at all.

When you asked that tart out and she said "some other time" that was a knock back mate. I know you don't like to think so, but it was.

Feeble.

"There are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? ?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

Either they've invested since or he's knocked them back or he was making it up at the time. Which is it?

Whatever it is, it's clearly not a refusal. In fact, it seems more like an invitation.

He's inventing imaginary questions for himself in an attempt to attract people to the club? That reminds me of someone...

So now you're saying it's lie. So it's still not a refusal.

I'm asking you what it is. I still call it a refusal....if it happened.

Do you believe anyone asked the question?

Why would Ashley make up a story about looking for partners to invest in the club if he didn't want to do it?

Why wuld him and his cronies make up stories full stop.

Here's a tiny sample or the rebounding 'stories'...

QUOTE(Happy Face @ Dec 29 2008, 06:29 PM)
QUOTE
"The caliber of player we want to bring in is someone with a lot of Premiership experience or Champions League experience and they are in short supply. We are at a stage where we don't want to just bring players in to add to the squad, we want players who are going to be in the first team."
Chris Mort 02/08/2007

"NEWCASTLE United have completed the signing of midfielder Danny Guthrie from Liverpool. The 21-year-old put pen to paper on a four-year contract at St. James' Park on Friday evening after the Magpies agreed a fee with the Reds."
NUFC 11/07/2008

"NEWCASTLE United have agreed a fee with FC Metz for France under-21 defender Sebastien Bassong."
NUFC 30/07/2008

"NEWCASTLE United have completed the signing of Spain under-21 striker Francisco "Xisco" Jimenez Tejada."
NUFC 01/09/2008

"The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth."
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

QUOTE
"The team is going to need time to get things right and we're going to give them time to get it right. We will get it right eventually."
Chris Mort 07/12/2007

"Newcastle United has parted company with Sam Allardyce as its Manager with immediate effect."
NUFC 09/01/2008

QUOTE
"I'd like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn’t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? Some of them would talk to me last season and say, "Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously?" I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush but why wouldn't I welcome people who wanted to invest?"
Mike Ashley 08/08/2008

I am Mike Ashley, not Mike Ashley a multi-billionaire with unlimited resources. Newcastle United and I can't do what other clubs can. We can't afford it.
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

QUOTE
"I am now a dad who can't take his kids to a football game on a Saturday because I am advised that we would be assaulted"
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"A number of groups came to the ground to carry out their lawful protest and I would like to praise those fans for the way in which they behaved."
Ch Supt Paul Weir, Northumbria Police's match commander 14/09/2008

"We gave no formal advice to Mr Ashley about not attending Saturday's game. It is not our place to do so."
Northumbria Police 16/09/2008

QUOTE
"This club had £100million-worth of debt which has now been cleared"
Chris Mort 07/05/2008

"I then poured another £110 million into the club not to pay off the debt but just to reduce it. The club is still in debt. Even worse than that, the club still owes millions of pounds in transfer fees."
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"Financially we're very sound. We don't owe a bean as far as the club are concerned"
Joe Kinnear 02/01/2009

QUOTE
"Arsenal is the shining example in England of a sustainable business model."
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"If I go into a job and someone says to me that you have a director of football who buys and sells the players, I accept or don't accept it. If I accept it, I cannot complain. I would personally not accept that"
Arsene Wenger 12/09/2008

QUOTE
"I'm here to help Kevin, bringing young players through and also recommend certain players to him. He'll say yes and no, he has the final word, no-one else. Everything that happens will be run past him. I'm not going to bring players in behind his back - I'm not into that."
Dennis Wise 01/02/2008

"We have started talking about who we will be bringing in and Kevin will have the final say"
Chris Mort 07/05/2008

"It is a fact that Kevin Keegan, as manager, had specific duties in that he was responsible for the training, coaching, selection and motivation of the Team. It is a fact that Kevin Keegan was allowed to manage his specific duties without any interference from any Board member. It is a fact that Kevin Keegan agreed only to deal with the media in relation to Club matters relating to the Team and not to communicate with the media in relation to the acquisition or disposal of players."
NUFC 06/09/2008

QUOTE
“I understand investors are about to buy the club, Mike Ashley told me openly. I will be here for six to eight games. I am aware that the new owners have Kevin Keegan and possibly Alan Shearer parked around the corner.”
Joe Kinnear 25/09/2008

"NEWCASTLE United have announced today that Joe Kinnear has signed a contract as manager until the end of the 2008/09 season."
NUFC 28/11/2008

QUOTE
"I am no longer prepared to subsidise Newcastle United. I am putting the club up for sale. You don't need to demonstrate against me again because I have got the message."
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"I have withdrawn Newcastle United from the market"
Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

QUOTE
"I gave you my word that as long as I remain owner, this club would continue to be run responsibly at all levels. I hope you will accept that I have stood by that pledge."
Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

Quote released when Newcastle where 2 points off the relegation places, halfway through the season

QUOTE
“Joe’s the man to do the job. He’s my hero. Is he better than Capello? Definitely. We are going to be in Europe by the end of the season!”
Mike Ashley 18/12/2008

Outcome pending

QUOTE
"He [Given] won't be leaving, he has no interest in that whatsoever. He loves the football club, he's part of the city and that suits us because he's a world-class goalkeeper. He's very happy here, he's very comfortable at Newcastle United."
Joe Kinnear 31/12/2008

"Shay is very despondent, all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival. Having served the club loyally for over 11 years, Shay feels compelled to consider his position"
Michael Kennedy 01/01/2009

QUOTE
"I have enquired about Ferguson, but we will wait and see what the outcome is."
Joe Kinnear 03/01/2009

"As far as my chairman, my chief executive and myself are concerned, there's been no contact with Newcastle or any other club regarding Barry."
Walter Smith 05/01/2009

QUOTE
"I have withdrawn Newcastle United from the market. Any potential buyer would have to show they had the best interests of Newcastle United at heart and had both the commitment and finance to be worthy custodians of such a fine football club before I would even consider doing a deal."
Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

“A few weeks ago there was a decent degree of positive thought and optimism that there would be a buyer and then, amongst others, Mr Madoff came along. There were two people that were looking at Newcastle with us who lost, let’s say, over $300m to Madoff. Let’s face it, it (the Madoff scandal) holed everything beneath the water line. The people who were investing with him followed their peers and they should have done their due diligence and all those things and they didn’t. That came at the end of a two or three-month period of absolute decline in all the stock markets, financial markets and banking markets.”
Keith Harris 09/01/2009

QUOTE
"I've spoken to my bosses at the club. They know what my aims are and what I want to continue to progress. As soon as a big club knocks on the door with a good offer, I don't think they'll prevent me leaving."
Charles N'Zogbia 08/01/2009

"The agent’s being disrespectful. He’s never had the decency to explain anything to any member of this football club. It’s laughable, to be honest. It’s absolute nonsense. Charles is under contract until 2012, and I told him on day one that he was a very important player."
Joe Kinnear 09/01/2009

QUOTE
“Over the course of the year I’ve spoken to lots of fans about how we can improve things at St James’ Park"
Chris Mort 22/05/2009

"The SJP Box Office telephone number has now been changed with immediate effect to: 0844 372 1892."
NUFC.com 20/01/2009

"01/02 phone numbers are used for everyday local and national calls and can be included in any free or discounted minutes on your tariff. If you don’t have inclusive minutes for these, you’ll typically pay around 4p per minute (ppm) peak and around 1.5ppm off-peak from landlines.

0844 is a revenue-sharing number that is not included in 'free' or discounted minutes. Calls to 0844 phone numbers cost up to 5p a minute from landlines at all times of day, and typically between 15p (if you're a 3 mobile customer) and 40p per minute from mobiles. Depending on your network, call charges may be higher on pay as you go than on a contract."
Which.co.uk

QUOTE
“I have been out of the country and just returned. I don’t know anything about this. If I have been appointed as coach of Newcastle United then that is certainly news to me.”
Colin Calderwood 20/01/2009

"We have Colin Calderwood on board now, he will be joining us until the end of the season to bring something else to our backroom team."
Joe Kinnear 26/01/2009

QUOTE
"I am the first to accept there have been times this season when you would have liked to have heard more from me direct, particularly at certain points. There have been reasons why I have not have been able to do that, but in the new year we will look to communicate with you more about what we are doing at St.James' Park, be it through the club's official website, programme and magazine as well as the wider media."
Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

“Mike is going to speak to the Press when the window shuts."
Joe Kinnear 15/01/2009

"I think they will sit down with supporters' groups and fans and the people of Newcastle at the end of the season - I know they want to do that."
Joe Kinnear 05/02/2009

QUOTE
"I'm physically AOK"
Joe Kinnear 22/11/2008

“Joe Kinnear was admitted to hospital on Saturday morning."
NUFC 07/02/2009

Great cut and paste job, you will find the response to that here.

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,60149.0.html

Happy Face · February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

She actually....

The thing I do see is that money will have to be paid for the day to day running of the club. If we are not putting money into the club through merchandising etc then the cost of the day to day running of the club has to come from somewhere. I didn't express any hope, it is just a reality. Ashley will have to put more money in to cover day to day costs (wages of non-playing staff ~ you know the ordinary folks of the north-east who do the shop work, office work, cleaning etc) and other costs involved leaving less to go towards players. Its just common sense that something has to give if we stop supporting the club financially and the transfers in of players will probably be it.

We've still got one of the highest gates in the league, best selling strips, and fattest beer, guzzling pie eaters in any stadium.

Do you believe the 50 people still boycotting are the reason for our lack of transfer investment and decrepit manager?

I am saying I do not agree with NUSC's stance for promoting this boycott. That's all.

Neither do I. I have a pint at every game.

You're clearly a single issue voter. You might hate the war in Iraq, the shitty health care, the crime, the failing economy etc. but you'd vote for Bush because of the stem cell thing.

OzzieMandias · February 12, 2009

Can you at least except you're mistakes on previous arguments

We've paid off all our debt, but we've still got loads of debt with more to come.
Our wage bill is too high, but Ashley has increased the wage bill.
We need investment, but Ashley turns down offers of investment from local businessmen.
It's cheaper to pay a DOF to bring in players than let the manager do it, but the DOF is paid 150% more than the manager.

For all the tales of woe, they don't actually seem to be that worried about it or doing much to sort it.

Is that true? Don't think I've seen it before.

According to Mike Ashley it is...

?So when you are Mike Ashley at Newcastle United then of course you think partners would make sense. And, if I can, I?d like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing?

?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

?I?d tell them we?d look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/08/08/mike-ashley-exclusive-chronicle-interview-72703-21492315/

But he's been known to talk bollocks....which is exactly ther point.

And where does he turn down offers of investment, exactly? The context of that quote was him announcing that he was looking for investors!

"I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

Exactly. No refusal there at all.

When you asked that tart out and she said "some other time" that was a knock back mate. I know you don't like to think so, but it was.

Feeble.

"There are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? ?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

Either they've invested since or he's knocked them back or he was making it up at the time. Which is it?

Whatever it is, it's clearly not a refusal. In fact, it seems more like an invitation.

He's inventing imaginary questions for himself in an attempt to attract people to the club? That reminds me of someone...

So now you're saying it's lie. So it's still not a refusal.

I'm asking you what it is. I still call it a refusal....if it happened.

Do you believe anyone asked the question?

Why would Ashley make up a story about looking for partners to invest in the club if he didn't want to do it?

Why wuld him and his cronies make up stories full stop.

Here's a tiny sample or the rebounding 'stories'...

QUOTE(Happy Face @ Dec 29 2008, 06:29 PM)
QUOTE
"The caliber of player we want to bring in is someone with a lot of Premiership experience or Champions League experience and they are in short supply. We are at a stage where we don't want to just bring players in to add to the squad, we want players who are going to be in the first team."
Chris Mort 02/08/2007

"NEWCASTLE United have completed the signing of midfielder Danny Guthrie from Liverpool. The 21-year-old put pen to paper on a four-year contract at St. James' Park on Friday evening after the Magpies agreed a fee with the Reds."
NUFC 11/07/2008

"NEWCASTLE United have agreed a fee with FC Metz for France under-21 defender Sebastien Bassong."
NUFC 30/07/2008

"NEWCASTLE United have completed the signing of Spain under-21 striker Francisco "Xisco" Jimenez Tejada."
NUFC 01/09/2008

"The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth."
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

QUOTE
"The team is going to need time to get things right and we're going to give them time to get it right. We will get it right eventually."
Chris Mort 07/12/2007

"Newcastle United has parted company with Sam Allardyce as its Manager with immediate effect."
NUFC 09/01/2008

QUOTE
"I'd like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? Some of them would talk to me last season and say, "Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously?" I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush but why wouldn't I welcome people who wanted to invest?"
Mike Ashley 08/08/2008

I am Mike Ashley, not Mike Ashley a multi-billionaire with unlimited resources. Newcastle United and I can't do what other clubs can. We can't afford it.
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

QUOTE
"I am now a dad who can't take his kids to a football game on a Saturday because I am advised that we would be assaulted"
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"A number of groups came to the ground to carry out their lawful protest and I would like to praise those fans for the way in which they behaved."
Ch Supt Paul Weir, Northumbria Police's match commander 14/09/2008

"We gave no formal advice to Mr Ashley about not attending Saturday's game. It is not our place to do so."
Northumbria Police 16/09/2008

QUOTE
"This club had £100million-worth of debt which has now been cleared"
Chris Mort 07/05/2008

"I then poured another £110 million into the club not to pay off the debt but just to reduce it. The club is still in debt. Even worse than that, the club still owes millions of pounds in transfer fees."
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"Financially we're very sound. We don't owe a bean as far as the club are concerned"
Joe Kinnear 02/01/2009

QUOTE
"Arsenal is the shining example in England of a sustainable business model."
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"If I go into a job and someone says to me that you have a director of football who buys and sells the players, I accept or don't accept it. If I accept it, I cannot complain. I would personally not accept that"
Arsene Wenger 12/09/2008

QUOTE
"I'm here to help Kevin, bringing young players through and also recommend certain players to him. He'll say yes and no, he has the final word, no-one else. Everything that happens will be run past him. I'm not going to bring players in behind his back - I'm not into that."
Dennis Wise 01/02/2008

"We have started talking about who we will be bringing in and Kevin will have the final say"
Chris Mort 07/05/2008

"It is a fact that Kevin Keegan, as manager, had specific duties in that he was responsible for the training, coaching, selection and motivation of the Team. It is a fact that Kevin Keegan was allowed to manage his specific duties without any interference from any Board member. It is a fact that Kevin Keegan agreed only to deal with the media in relation to Club matters relating to the Team and not to communicate with the media in relation to the acquisition or disposal of players."
NUFC 06/09/2008

QUOTE
?I understand investors are about to buy the club, Mike Ashley told me openly. I will be here for six to eight games. I am aware that the new owners have Kevin Keegan and possibly Alan Shearer parked around the corner.?
Joe Kinnear 25/09/2008

"NEWCASTLE United have announced today that Joe Kinnear has signed a contract as manager until the end of the 2008/09 season."
NUFC 28/11/2008

QUOTE
"I am no longer prepared to subsidise Newcastle United. I am putting the club up for sale. You don't need to demonstrate against me again because I have got the message."
Mike Ashley 14/09/2008

"I have withdrawn Newcastle United from the market"
Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

QUOTE
"I gave you my word that as long as I remain owner, this club would continue to be run responsibly at all levels. I hope you will accept that I have stood by that pledge."
Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

Quote released when Newcastle where 2 points off the relegation places, halfway through the season

QUOTE
?Joe?s the man to do the job. He?s my hero. Is he better than Capello? Definitely. We are going to be in Europe by the end of the season!?
Mike Ashley 18/12/2008

Outcome pending

QUOTE
"He [Given] won't be leaving, he has no interest in that whatsoever. He loves the football club, he's part of the city and that suits us because he's a world-class goalkeeper. He's very happy here, he's very comfortable at Newcastle United."
Joe Kinnear 31/12/2008

"Shay is very despondent, all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival. Having served the club loyally for over 11 years, Shay feels compelled to consider his position"
Michael Kennedy 01/01/2009

QUOTE
"I have enquired about Ferguson, but we will wait and see what the outcome is."
Joe Kinnear 03/01/2009

"As far as my chairman, my chief executive and myself are concerned, there's been no contact with Newcastle or any other club regarding Barry."
Walter Smith 05/01/2009

QUOTE
"I have withdrawn Newcastle United from the market. Any potential buyer would have to show they had the best interests of Newcastle United at heart and had both the commitment and finance to be worthy custodians of such a fine football club before I would even consider doing a deal."
Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

?A few weeks ago there was a decent degree of positive thought and optimism that there would be a buyer and then, amongst others, Mr Madoff came along. There were two people that were looking at Newcastle with us who lost, let?s say, over $300m to Madoff. Let?s face it, it (the Madoff scandal) holed everything beneath the water line. The people who were investing with him followed their peers and they should have done their due diligence and all those things and they didn?t. That came at the end of a two or three-month period of absolute decline in all the stock markets, financial markets and banking markets.?
Keith Harris 09/01/2009

QUOTE
"I've spoken to my bosses at the club. They know what my aims are and what I want to continue to progress. As soon as a big club knocks on the door with a good offer, I don't think they'll prevent me leaving."
Charles N'Zogbia 08/01/2009

"The agent?s being disrespectful. He?s never had the decency to explain anything to any member of this football club. It?s laughable, to be honest. It?s absolute nonsense. Charles is under contract until 2012, and I told him on day one that he was a very important player."
Joe Kinnear 09/01/2009

QUOTE
?Over the course of the year I?ve spoken to lots of fans about how we can improve things at St James? Park"
Chris Mort 22/05/2009

"The SJP Box Office telephone number has now been changed with immediate effect to: 0844 372 1892."
NUFC.com 20/01/2009

"01/02 phone numbers are used for everyday local and national calls and can be included in any free or discounted minutes on your tariff. If you don?t have inclusive minutes for these, you?ll typically pay around 4p per minute (ppm) peak and around 1.5ppm off-peak from landlines.

0844 is a revenue-sharing number that is not included in 'free' or discounted minutes. Calls to 0844 phone numbers cost up to 5p a minute from landlines at all times of day, and typically between 15p (if you're a 3 mobile customer) and 40p per minute from mobiles. Depending on your network, call charges may be higher on pay as you go than on a contract."
Which.co.uk

QUOTE
?I have been out of the country and just returned. I don?t know anything about this. If I have been appointed as coach of Newcastle United then that is certainly news to me.?
Colin Calderwood 20/01/2009

"We have Colin Calderwood on board now, he will be joining us until the end of the season to bring something else to our backroom team."
Joe Kinnear 26/01/2009

QUOTE
"I am the first to accept there have been times this season when you would have liked to have heard more from me direct, particularly at certain points. There have been reasons why I have not have been able to do that, but in the new year we will look to communicate with you more about what we are doing at St.James' Park, be it through the club's official website, programme and magazine as well as the wider media."
Mike Ashley 28/12/2008

?Mike is going to speak to the Press when the window shuts."
Joe Kinnear 15/01/2009

"I think they will sit down with supporters' groups and fans and the people of Newcastle at the end of the season - I know they want to do that."
Joe Kinnear 05/02/2009

QUOTE
"I'm physically AOK"
Joe Kinnear 22/11/2008

?Joe Kinnear was admitted to hospital on Saturday morning."
NUFC 07/02/2009

That was a bunch of toss the first time someone posted it. It hasn't improved with age.

February 12, 2009

Secondly I am not prepared to boycott Newcastle United. If I take my money away from this club (as small an amount as it may be) the money that could be used to fund the buying of players and paying their wages will have to be diverted to paying the day to day running costs of the club. NUSC fails to see that by boycotting the club we are cutting our noses off to spite our face. I do not want to be a part of that.

I'm not prepared to boycott the club either. And NUSC haven't suggested it. A boycott of food/drink/programs was in place at the consensus of most places (TF, The Mag etc.) which the NUSC endorsed once it was set up.

Your confidence that the money we invest in the club will be re-invested in players is confusing though, considering Ashley has had four windows to spend some of that money and we're still in credit in the transfer market. He's only really managed to spend anything in one window...his first.

you realise money going into the club pays for other stuff too?

Yeah. But I was asking what made Blefuscu think it would be spent on transfers....since he expressed that hope, despite there being no indication it would in the past.

She actually....

The thing I do see is that money will have to be paid for the day to day running of the club. If we are not putting money into the club through merchandising etc then the cost of the day to day running of the club has to come from somewhere. I didn't express any hope, it is just a reality. Ashley will have to put more money in to cover day to day costs (wages of non-playing staff ~ you know the ordinary folks of the north-east who do the shop work, office work, cleaning etc) and other costs involved leaving less to go towards players. Its just common sense that something has to give if we stop supporting the club financially and the transfers in of players will probably be it.

We've still got one of the highest gates in the league, best selling strips, and fattest beer, guzzling pie eaters in any stadium.

Do you believe the 50 people still boycotting are the reason for our lack of transfer investment and decrepit manager?

I am saying I do not agree with NUSC's stance for promoting this boycott. That's all.

Neither do I. I have a pint at every game.

You're clearly a single issue voter. You might hate the war in Iraq, the shitty health care, the crime, the failing economy etc. but you'd vote for Bush because of the stem cell thing.

You would be surprised to be honest.

TRon · February 12, 2009

Can you at least except you're mistakes on previous arguments

We've paid off all our debt, but we've still got loads of debt with more to come.
Our wage bill is too high, but Ashley has increased the wage bill.
We need investment, but Ashley turns down offers of investment from local businessmen.
It's cheaper to pay a DOF to bring in players than let the manager do it, but the DOF is paid 150% more than the manager.

For all the tales of woe, they don't actually seem to be that worried about it or doing much to sort it.

Is that true? Don't think I've seen it before.

According to Mike Ashley it is...

?So when you are Mike Ashley at Newcastle United then of course you think partners would make sense. And, if I can, I?d like to start with people in the North East because there are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing?

?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

?I?d tell them we?d look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2008/08/08/mike-ashley-exclusive-chronicle-interview-72703-21492315/

But he's been known to talk bollocks....which is exactly ther point.

And where does he turn down offers of investment, exactly? The context of that quote was him announcing that he was looking for investors!

"I'd tell them we'd look at it at the end of the season as there was no rush"

Exactly. No refusal there at all.

When you asked that tart out and she said "some other time" that was a knock back mate. I know you don't like to think so, but it was.

Feeble.

"There are some great people who come to our matches who sit in the corporate areas, and wouldn?t it be great to have local backing for what we are doing? ?Some of them would talk to me last season and say, ?Mike, is there an opportunity for us to come into the club again because we were shareholders in the plc previously??.

Either they've invested since or he's knocked them back or he was making it up at the time. Which is it?

Whatever it is, it's clearly not a refusal. In fact, it seems more like an invitation.

He's inventing imaginary questions for himself in an attempt to attract people to the club? That reminds me of someone...

So now you're saying it's lie. So it's still not a refusal.

I'm asking you what it is. I still call it a refusal....if it happened.

Do you believe anyone asked the question?

Why would Ashley make up a story about looking for partners to invest in the club if he didn't want to do it?

I have no doubt he was looking for investment. But he claims he's had former shareholders offering to invest.

If he has, why has he not taken them up on it?

If he hasn't, why's he telling porky pies?

Something to do with the timeline and current financial climate? What was the situation when he was looking for investors? Before the financial meltdown there were probably people who were wiling to invest, afterwards probably a lot less. I'm sure if there were people queuing up to invest but had been knocked back we'd have heard about it by now.

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