LiquidAK Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article2438004.ece At the centre of the debate, which threatens to turn into a war, is paragraph E20 of the Premier League rules. It states: “In every league match, each participating club should field a full-strength team.” That sentence is the core of what protects the richest and most successful club football competition in the world from being accused of corruption. Yes I realise the source isn't the most reliable, but I think it raises an interesting topic. Should Manchester United field a less than stellar team (to put it mildly), would we have the right to sue for compensation? It does seem to directly break that rule, but then teams have always rested players, and it's never led to a case being brought against them (at least not to my knowledge). Personally I think we should at least try, if we do go down an extra cash would help counter the massive loss of revenue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 It would be a fucking joke. As if being down there isn't embarrassing enough. All the clubs issued denials this morning anyway so the point is moot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offshore Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Depends on what their definiton of a 'full-strength' team is. Don't think barring Fergie putting out his five-a-side youth team we've got a leg to stand on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 All the clubs issued denials this morning anyway so the point is moot. Didn't know that. Never mind then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Man U have every right to do what they like, but all the controversy this is stirring up is a good thing for us. Gives the Man U reserves an incentive to put 3 or 4 past Hull and prove a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Let's win the game and not worry about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm looking at this a different way. A team full of Ronaldo, Rooney etc. with one eye on the final is going to be trying their damned hardest not to get injured. A team with talented kids who have a goal of a place on the bench for the CL final may be a better bet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Was talking to my dad earlier and he said that during the 1920s, Newcastle played Aston Villa on the final day of the season just a week before both clubs were due to play each other in the FA Cup Final, and both sides fielded reserve sides against each other. Both sides were fined by the FA. Not sure if it's true or not but just what he was going on about before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm looking at this a different way. A team full of Ronaldo, Rooney etc. with one eye on the final is going to be trying their damned hardest not to get injured. A team with talented kids who have a goal of a place on the bench for the CL final may be a better bet. An article in the Mirror today said much the same thing. I did chuckle though when he counted Ji-Sung "guaranteed starter in the final" Park in amongst the kids. What I wouldn't give for a player like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm looking at this a different way. A team full of Ronaldo, Rooney etc. with one eye on the final is going to be trying their damned hardest not to get injured. A team with talented kids who have a goal of a place on the bench for the CL final may be a better bet. An article in the Mirror today said much the same thing. I did chuckle though when he counted Ji-Sung "guaranteed starter in the final" Park in amongst the kids. What I wouldn't give for a player like him. He'd be hated here. Another grafter with no end product! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Was talking to my dad earlier and he said that during the 1920s, Newcastle played Aston Villa on the final day of the season just a week before both clubs were due to play each other in the FA Cup Final, and both sides fielded reserve sides against each other. Both sides were fined by the FA. Not sure if it's true or not but just what he was going on about before. http://toonstats.homestead.com/files/1920web.htm 1923-24 season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 From http://toonstats.homestead.com/files/1920web.htm 21.04.24 Aston Villa a 1-6 1-1 42 17 10 15 60 54 44 Mutch; Curry, Hunter; MacKenzie, Finlay, Gibson; Aitken, Clark R, Keating, Clark J, Mitchell G: Clark J 26.04.24 Aston Villa n 2-0 0-0 FA Cup Final (at Wembley) Bradley; Hampson, Hudspeth; Mooney, Spencer, Gibson; Low J, Cowan, Harris, McDonald, Seymour G: Harris, Seymour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm looking at this a different way. A team full of Ronaldo, Rooney etc. with one eye on the final is going to be trying their damned hardest not to get injured. A team with talented kids who have a goal of a place on the bench for the CL final may be a better bet. An article in the Mirror today said much the same thing. I did chuckle though when he counted Ji-Sung "guaranteed starter in the final" Park in amongst the kids. What I wouldn't give for a player like him. not spectacular enough for many but he,like fletcher have been invaluable to man utd this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I appreciate the information, however I don't really give a fuck about the money aspect of this whole malarky at this current moment in time. I'm just bothered about about staying up. Us being in the situation we are in is well and truely FUBAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 From http://toonstats.homestead.com/files/1920web.htm 21.04.24 Aston Villa a 1-6 1-1 42 17 10 15 60 54 44 Mutch; Curry, Hunter; MacKenzie, Finlay, Gibson; Aitken, Clark R, Keating, Clark J, Mitchell G: Clark J 26.04.24 Aston Villa n 2-0 0-0 FA Cup Final (at Wembley) Bradley; Hampson, Hudspeth; Mooney, Spencer, Gibson; Low J, Cowan, Harris, McDonald, Seymour G: Harris, Seymour Bit harsh if Villa won 6-1 and got fined for playing a weak side like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 According to the Villa website it was just Newcastle who got fined. http://www.avfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/OnThisDay/0,,10265~1293775,00.html 1924: Villa thrashed Newcastle United five days before the sides were due to meet in the FA Cup Final at Wembley. Newcastle were subsequently fined £750 for fielding a considerably weakened side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Worked though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 From http://toonstats.homestead.com/files/1920web.htm 21.04.24 Aston Villa a 1-6 1-1 42 17 10 15 60 54 44 Mutch; Curry, Hunter; MacKenzie, Finlay, Gibson; Aitken, Clark R, Keating, Clark J, Mitchell G: Clark J 26.04.24 Aston Villa n 2-0 0-0 FA Cup Final (at Wembley) Bradley; Hampson, Hudspeth; Mooney, Spencer, Gibson; Low J, Cowan, Harris, McDonald, Seymour G: Harris, Seymour Bit harsh if Villa won 6-1 and got fined for playing a weak side like. i thought that was sandy mutch in goal and was sure he was nearly always a first choice,but on wiki-ing it turns out he got a ban knee injury "just before the final"....wonder if it was in that game ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 ermm...would be kinda embarrassing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'd sever all ties I have with this club if we went down and thus tried suing Man Utd over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'd sever all ties I have with this club if we went down and thus tried suing Man Utd over it. depends.....if we want cash or put back in the prem then i agree with you....however if it is just to get ferguson in the dock to admit,under oath, that he is a hypocrite, then i'm all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Tbf the article said that 6 clubs would be doing it. Tbh I'd be a bit more for it if it was a couple of teams in the league banding together against Manure than if it was just us kicking up a fuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'm looking at this a different way. A team full of Ronaldo, Rooney etc. with one eye on the final is going to be trying their damned hardest not to get injured. A team with talented kids who have a goal of a place on the bench for the CL final may be a better bet. Precisely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Magpiecn Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Tbf the article said that 6 clubs would be doing it. Tbh I'd be a bit more for it if it was a couple of teams in the league banding together against Manure than if it was just us kicking up a fuss. Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebolarama Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Threatening to sue if we go down due to Man Utd fielding a weakened side is the most pathetic thing I've heard since, well, Warnock said it with Sheffield Utd. Why don't we sue every team for beating us throughout the season? Make a killing, tbh. No club will sue anyone. Calm down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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