Guest toonlass Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 What has he done, that has resulted in anything? He's given the ball away a couple of times in dangerous areas which have resulted in goals for the opposition, once in the league cup against Accrington. He's got himself into some good areas, but has he scored any? Has he set up any? Ok so he hurries the defence a bit, but he's hardly set the league alight. What has he done? Did you see the Liverpool game? He came on and totally changed the game, he didn't score but he did as much as anybody to get those points. Honestly, you look as if you're clutching at straws in an attempt to put him down. Look, I'm not! I just don't think he's THAT good. He might get better in the future but his attitude is all wrong at the moment. The slagging off of Lovenkrands annoyed me tbh, considering he was instrumental in the goal today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Look, I'm not! I just don't think he's THAT good. He might get better in the future but his attitude is all wrong at the moment. The slagging off of Lovenkrands annoyed me tbh, considering he was instrumental in the goal today. His all round play was fairly decent as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Thought Lovenkrands was okay today. Right place/right time for the goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Look, I'm not! I just don't think he's THAT good. He might get better in the future but his attitude is all wrong at the moment. The slagging off of Lovenkrands annoyed me tbh, considering he was instrumental in the goal today. Who is slaggin Lovenkrands? I think he's a capable and reliable squad player who will get us goals, I don't think he's the future though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Thought Lovenkrands was okay today. Right place/right time for the goal. fucked about too much whe he had the ball at his feet right in front of thier goal. Good forwards have the knack of getting shots in in these situations he just, well, fucked about tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Look, I'm not! I just don't think he's THAT good. He might get better in the future but his attitude is all wrong at the moment. The slagging off of Lovenkrands annoyed me tbh, considering he was instrumental in the goal today. Who is slaggin Lovenkrands? I think he's a capable and reliable squad player who will get us goals, I don't think he's the future though. He's not the future. No-one is saying he is, but I would play him before Ranger at present. Just my opinion at the end of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Good grief. He's a striker who can't really hold the ball up, get assists or score - at this level, anyway. Should we really be praising him because he finally contributed to a goal? So he should be doing that on occasion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 He's not the future. No-one is saying he is, but I would play him before Ranger at present. Just my opinion at the end of the day. I think you need to give Lovenkrands a run of games to get the best out of him, that's what happened last season when he was a late starter, I'm not sure he'll get a run of games though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Ranger's a teenager from london with a history of gangs and crime. His attitude is going to be sucky. It'll not change overnight. His footballing talent is clear though. This has little to do with the debate vs McLoven. I just wanted to stick up for Nile. Brap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Ranger's a teenager from london with a history of gangs and crime. His attitude is going to be sucky. It'll not change overnight. I reckon it has changed for the better, it's just not perfect yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I really hope Ranger grows up a bit, knuckles down in training and learns some discipline. I really hope he is a success here. I just think while Carroll is out injured Lovenkrands should start and Ranger be brought on as a sub. I would be made up if Ranger scored on Wednesday night, but think Pardew might have him down as a trouble maker. Shola and Lovenkrands should start while Carrroll is out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 People keep going on about how s**** Lovenkrands is and how Ranger should start, and yet Ranger has had more games than Lovenkrands and has scored none. Lovenkrands may have scored only 1 goal but it's more than Ranger and despite what people say he was in the right place for the attempt which came of the post for Shola to tap in today. People need to stop making out that Nile Ranger is fabulous, he has proved nothing so far and if he has a bad attitude to training and discipline which I have heard for a long time now, why should he start? Shockingly transparent misrepresentation of the stats. Lovenkrands has started 3 or 4, compared to Nile's 0. Premier League minutes this season: Lovenkrands - 308 Ranger - 190 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I really hope Ranger grows up a bit, knuckles down in training and learns some discipline. I really hope he is a success here. I just think while Carroll is out injured Lovenkrands should start and Ranger be brought on as a sub. I would be made up if Ranger scored on Wednesday night, but think Pardew might have him down as a trouble maker. Shola and Lovenkrands should start while Carrroll is out. If we are bringing attitude into this debate then I hope Lovenkrands grows a pair and grabs this opportunity to show us what he's got. He's had a few golden dawns with us now but then sinks without a trace just when you think he's on his way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 What Blef means to say is that she likes Lovenkrands because he used to play for Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 What Blef means to say is that she likes Lovenkrands because he used to play for Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 What Blef means to say is that she likes Lovenkrands because he used to play for Rangers. bingo. Hopefully when/if we sign someone we'll not have to worry about this useless fucker anymore and he'll fuck off back to Glasgow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 What Blef means to say is that she likes Lovenkrands because he used to play for Rangers. There's that as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 What Blef means to say is that she likes Lovenkrands because he used to play for Rangers. I was gonna say earlier that it's kinda ironic given her love of Rangers, that she hates Nile so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Based on what? Based on what they've all done this season when playing. What has he done, that has resulted in anything? He's given the ball away a couple of times in dangerous areas which have resulted in goals for the opposition, once in the league cup against Accrington. He's got himself into some good areas, but has he scored any? Has he set up any? Ok so he hurries the defence a bit, but he's hardly set the league alight. Yeah I've heard Crumpy use that one to have a go at Tiote recently. What a prophetic insight that proved to be today. vs West Brom - Lovenkrands misses a sitter, WBA go up the other end and score vs Spurs - Lovenkrands gets played in on goal by Barton from the quick free-kick, dicks about in the area instead of shooting, Spurs get the ball back and score. Ranger might have made more clear-cut errors for the goals vs Chelsea and Accrington but it would be unfair not to acknowledge that Lovelyhands' misses often come at key times, when we're building pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Thought Lovenkrands was okay today. Right place/right time for the goal. fucked about too much whe he had the ball at his feet right in front of thier goal. Good forwards have the knack of getting shots in in these situations he just, well, fucked about tbh. This, really wanted to like Lovelyhands (still think he's a top bloke), just his dicking about with the ball instead of scoring (or trying to) infuriates me. At least Shola tries to shoot even if it does go for a throw in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Based on what? Based on what they've all done this season when playing. What has he done, that has resulted in anything? He's given the ball away a couple of times in dangerous areas which have resulted in goals for the opposition, once in the league cup against Accrington. He's got himself into some good areas, but has he scored any? Has he set up any? Ok so he hurries the defence a bit, but he's hardly set the league alight. Yeah I've heard Crumpy use that one to have a go at Tiote recently. What a prophetic insight that proved to be today. vs West Brom - Lovenkrands misses a sitter, WBA go up the other end and score vs Spurs - Lovenkrands gets played in on goal by Barton from the quick free-kick, dicks about in the area instead of shooting, Spurs get the ball back and score. Ranger might have made more clear-cut errors for the goals vs Chelsea and Accrington but it would be unfair not to acknowledge that Lovelyhands' misses often come at key times, when we're building pressure. What? How can you even say that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Completely ignore all of the players between him and the goal, because he lost the ball against WBA and Spurs, he's at fault for the goal? What about the defence who, you know, are supposed to stop the opposition were scoring? Last time I checked they weren't all ahead of Lovenkrands when he lost the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 if we get a striker in this week, we need to sell or loan this lad out. he needs games at his age, as he is in the last 2-3 years of his playing life. unfair to him to have him bench warming. Cant see the point in using him in a stop gap way, as 2years down the line he will be past it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Based on what? Based on what they've all done this season when playing. What has he done, that has resulted in anything? He's given the ball away a couple of times in dangerous areas which have resulted in goals for the opposition, once in the league cup against Accrington. He's got himself into some good areas, but has he scored any? Has he set up any? Ok so he hurries the defence a bit, but he's hardly set the league alight. Yeah I've heard Crumpy use that one to have a go at Tiote recently. What a prophetic insight that proved to be today. vs West Brom - Lovenkrands misses a sitter, WBA go up the other end and score vs Spurs - Lovenkrands gets played in on goal by Barton from the quick free-kick, dicks about in the area instead of shooting, Spurs get the ball back and score. Ranger might have made more clear-cut errors for the goals vs Chelsea and Accrington but it would be unfair not to acknowledge that Lovelyhands' misses often come at key times, when we're building pressure. What? How can you even say that? Because they do, I've taken it a step further and highlighted two recent misses which proved to be not only costly in terms of our own score, but the opposition capitalising to increase their lead straight away. You might be happy to see a seasoned professional labour in front of the goal until the stars are aligned, I'm not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Completely ignore all of the players between him and the goal, because he lost the ball against WBA and Spurs, he's at fault for the goal? What about the defence who, you know, are supposed to stop the opposition were scoring? Last time I checked they weren't all ahead of Lovenkrands when he lost the ball. No-one is blaming Lovelyhands for us conceding a goal. I've simply pointed out the recent occasions where his inability to score (or at least take a shot) has been exacerbated by the opposition. I'll leave it to you to infer that him missing relatively easy chances has a negative effect upon his team-mates' morale and concentration in the immediate aftermatch of his dilly-dallying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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