TêteDeMaure Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 We will be sold on the 1st of september to Freddie Shepherd for 60 million. He is the only serious bidder and Ashley doesn't want to sell it to him while the window is open there is no bid, unless there is a very secret bid from anyone,we won't be sold . that,my friend, i can guarentee . In the mean time Ashley is selling off players to make up for the shortfall in Shepherd's offer. Sounds plausible... even if it has been plucked out of thin air. Let's invent an ITK source to make it sound more credible. Marley???? More of an IAMs than an ITK tbh. Got a propper lush Hollywood smile though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 We will be sold on the 1st of september to Freddie Shepherd for 60 million. He is the only serious bidder and Ashley doesn't want to sell it to him while the window is open there is no bid, unless there is a very secret bid from anyone,we won't be sold . that,my friend, i can guarentee . In the mean time Ashley is selling off players to make up for the shortfall in Shepherd's offer. Sounds plausible... even if it has been plucked out of thin air. Let's invent an ITK source to make it sound more credible. haha it wasn't plucked out of thin air but I was a bit reluctant to post it due to the general bad feeling towards any takeover rumours on here. Previous bids like malaysians and serious manboob have all been fabricated to try and force sepherds hand but he won't go any higher than 60. Ashley is reluctant to sell to him for obvious reasons so he's trying to screw him over by letting the window shut TBH sounds like something Ashley would do, as credible as anything else anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Did a quick sum of the finances as I assume they are: We've made 20 - 21 million from the Sale of Beye, Bassong and Martins. Working on the assumption that the following salaries are close to being right we've saved another 20.6 million a year. Owen 110k pw Viduka 75k Beye 50k Martins 60k Cacapa 30k Nacho 30k Loven 30k Bassong 6k Edgar 6k The drop in TV revenue between Prem and CCC is 42 million. So we are just about there. Of course the caveat is that the transfer fees will not be paid up front but over a number of years. From a financial point of view though the shortfall will be the loss in matchday reveenue from lower crowds, corporates and sponsorship. If we start to do well and look good for promotion though, the crowds will come back and the revenue will still be there. 1 or 2 more sales and Ashley may well be in a strong position as long as crowds stay around 30k. The problem though will be finding 20 million plus next season to fill the gap assuming we don't go up. Not really - we have been losing £20 to £30 million a year and, in the best case, your maths just gets us back to that position, it doesn't show a way of getting back to break even. In truth there probably is no easy way back to break even - as the buyers doing their due diligence will have realised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dennis Carter Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 I'm just posting what I've heard i'm certainly not gonna get my hopes up and I'm not gonna claim to be itk or anythig I just thought I would post it cos i know the guy who told me wouldn't deliberately lie and I can see it happening on current events. As thick as we know mike Ashley is he's not stupid enough to hold on to th club for another season. At the end of the day he's a businessman and there's people on here bating for his blood. The clubs value is just gonna go further and further down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Did a quick sum of the finances as I assume they are: We've made 20 - 21 million from the Sale of Beye, Bassong and Martins. Working on the assumption that the following salaries are close to being right we've saved another 20.6 million a year. Owen 110k pw Viduka 75k Beye 50k Martins 60k Cacapa 30k Nacho 30k Loven 30k Bassong 6k Edgar 6k The drop in TV revenue between Prem and CCC is 42 million. So we are just about there. Of course the caveat is that the transfer fees will not be paid up front but over a number of years. From a financial point of view though the shortfall will be the loss in matchday reveenue from lower crowds, corporates and sponsorship. If we start to do well and look good for promotion though, the crowds will come back and the revenue will still be there. 1 or 2 more sales and Ashley may well be in a strong position as long as crowds stay around 30k. The problem though will be finding 20 million plus next season to fill the gap assuming we don't go up. Not really - we have been losing £20 to £30 million a year and, in the best case, your maths just gets us back to that position, it doesn't show a way of getting back to break even. In truth there probably is no easy way back to break even - as the buyers doing their due diligence will have realised. this,.. the club is worthless more of a liabilty than an asset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Been in talk with a player at the club (not that one, but the other one...) and he thinks Joe Kinnear will be the new manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Been in talk with a player at the club (not that one, but the other one...) and he thinks Joe Kinnear will be the new manager. Well you could say their name, whats gonna happen, he'll be sacked? it's easier to sack a Council Employee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Been in talk with a player at the club (not that one, but the other one...) and he thinks Joe Kinnear will be the new manager. Well you could say their name, whats gonna happen, he'll be sacked? it's easier to sack a Council Employee But with "(not that one, but the other one...)" I think most people here now who. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DavB93 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 We will be sold on the 1st of september to Freddie Shepherd for 60 million. He is the only serious bidder and Ashley doesn't want to sell it to him while the window is open there is no bid, unless there is a very secret bid from anyone,we won't be sold . that,my friend, i can guarentee . There is definetely a bid for the club on the table and that is from Freddy...guaranted 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObaStar Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Been in talk with a player at the club (not that one, but the other one...) and he thinks Joe Kinnear will be the new manager. Well you could say their name, whats gonna happen, he'll be sacked? it's easier to sack a Council Employee But with "(not that one, but the other one...)" I think most people here now who. what does it mean. i dont follow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 If he does it the way I think he could... He's selling every player with value and then selling the club to Shepherd, Shepherd will then have a skint squad full of youth players and Geremi. Shepherd will then have to pump more money in to bring in players in January to save us from going under again. Its so plausible, think about it. Based on everything you've seen since his time here, could that not be the most plausible thing? In Ashley's stupid mind, he is probably thinking "You left me a club in debt, now you'll get it back, but a debt in the form of a lack of players, good luck" http://themallorca.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/freddy_shepherd.jpg If he does sell the club to FFS, I hope Shep comes in with a cricket bat and beats JFK senseless, with that stone cold smirky ugly mug of his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Been in talk with a player at the club (not that one, but the other one...) and he thinks Joe Kinnear will be the new manager. Well you could say their name, whats gonna happen, he'll be sacked? it's easier to sack a Council Employee But with "(not that one, but the other one...)" I think most people here now who. Ryan Taylor or Steven Taylor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 If he does it the way I think he could... He's selling every player with value and then selling the club to Shepherd, Shepherd will then have a skint squad full of youth players and Geremi. Shepherd will then have to pump more money in to bring in players in January to save us from going under again. Its so plausible, think about it. Based on everything you've seen since his time here, could that not be the most plausible thing? In Ashley's stupid mind, he is probably thinking "You left me a club in debt, now you'll get it back, but a debt in the form of a lack of players, good luck" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Did a quick sum of the finances as I assume they are: We've made 20 - 21 million from the Sale of Beye, Bassong and Martins. Working on the assumption that the following salaries are close to being right we've saved another 20.6 million a year. Owen 110k pw Viduka 75k Beye 50k Martins 60k Cacapa 30k Nacho 30k Loven 30k Bassong 6k Edgar 6k The drop in TV revenue between Prem and CCC is 42 million. So we are just about there. Of course the caveat is that the transfer fees will not be paid up front but over a number of years. From a financial point of view though the shortfall will be the loss in matchday reveenue from lower crowds, corporates and sponsorship. If we start to do well and look good for promotion though, the crowds will come back and the revenue will still be there. 1 or 2 more sales and Ashley may well be in a strong position as long as crowds stay around 30k. The problem though will be finding 20 million plus next season to fill the gap assuming we don't go up. Not really - we have been losing £20 to £30 million a year and, in the best case, your maths just gets us back to that position, it doesn't show a way of getting back to break even. In truth there probably is no easy way back to break even - as the buyers doing their due diligence will have realised. They predicted a loss of 7 million for this year, when we were back in the prem, not 20 million, that was the actual loss for the previous year. I guess due to the fact that most of our recent transfer windows have seen us make a profit therefore the ones we owed on like Luque, Duff, Owen etc were coming towards the end of there payments, while those we sold Dyer, Parker, Milner et al, would still be bringing in the money. Their prediction of loss is more accruate gauge than the previous year's loss as that situation changes all the time. I'm not saying we don't have a shortfall still of around 20 million, that could be made up from the drop in attendaces and marketing of the club, it's just not as attractive to corporates and sponsors as it was in the Prem days. But what I am saying is that the loss in TV renvenue from dropping down a division has largely be negated already and if a buyer is prepared to take a chance and fund a promotion push, they could be sitting pretty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 If he does it the way I think he could... He's selling every player with value and then selling the club to Shepherd, Shepherd will then have a skint squad full of youth players and Geremi. Shepherd will then have to pump more money in to bring in players in January to save us from going under again. Its so plausible, think about it. Based on everything you've seen since his time here, could that not be the most plausible thing? In Ashley's stupid mind, he is probably thinking "You left me a club in debt, now you'll get it back, but a debt in the form of a lack of players, good luck" Hah, you see what this is driving all of us to man? We are going mental. Re-reading waht I wrote earlier, I'm even face-palming my own posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Ashley extends Toon Takeover deadline http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/football_league/article6797212.ece It on!!! sort of!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skirge Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 fkn hell I hope thats true and I will beg Barclays to help Moat out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Mike Ashley will put any managerial appointment at St James’ Park on hold until Barry Moat’s bid to buy Newcastle United is resolved. Moat’s attempts to purchase the Coca-Cola Championship club from Ashley rest in the hands of Barclays Bank, which has told the Tyneside businessman that it will respond to his request to borrow funds within the next five days. Ashley, who is to attend Newcastle’s home match against Reading today, is prepared to extend his deadline for Moat’s takeover of the club into next week, raising hopes that a positive outcome may be found. While optimism is hardly rampant, that the two parties remain in negotiations will offer supporters some comfort. Barclays is also Newcastle’s lender and has been pressing for the club’s £40 million overdraft to be reduced, with the club agreeing to sell the likes of Obafemi Martins, Sébastien Bassong, Habib Beye and Damien Duff over recent days. Barclays refused to comment last night. Alan Shearer has been kept informed of developments by Moat and Newcastle’s record goalscorer will be appointed as the manager if the deal goes ahead. In the meantime, Newcastle have been preparing for the possibility of the bid from Moat, who is understood to have American backing, falling through. Talks with David O’Leary have not resulted in any agreement and while Ashley remains a firm admirer of Joe Kinnear, the health of Newcastle’s former manager is still an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Bloody Hell Dave Title change Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 This won't end well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Is this an attempt to buy him some slack for tomorrow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 More limbo then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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