Incognito Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Ferdinand is the best English centre half since Bobby Moore, joke the way he is getting treated. I'd just retire from Int. football if I was him. Butcher Adams Walker Campbell All better than Rio imo. Moreso the first 3. And add Dave Watson to those too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 And add that Billy is biased in favour of players who didn't drive Astons and Maseratis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 That statement from Rio's representative man, what a silly one to make. Aye, why don't you disrupt England's preparation by causing a fuss over nothing? For me, Rio wasn't picked for the squad this summer because his 2011/12 season was shite - the man is clearly declining and what England doesn't need is an inconsistent CB (btw, I'm well aware that others who have had crap seasons have been selected - something which I'm not particularly happy with). It's just that I made up my mind about Rio well before the Euros - he kept making the simplest of mistakes (such as not tracking a player, misplacing passes). Jonny Evans had a much better season than Rio and that's saying something really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 And of course, John Terry being a racist twat towards Rio's cousin has absolutely fuck all with Rio not being selected. [/selectivemyopia] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 He insulted his cousin AND his brother!!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 And of course, John Terry being a racist twat towards Rio's cousin has absolutely fuck all with Rio not being selected. [/selectivemyopia] Its his brother i think mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 And of course, John Terry being a racist twat towards Rio's cousin has absolutely fuck all with Rio not being selected. [/selectivemyopia] Its his brother i think mate. Oops. [/seniledementia] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Terry's always at the root of most bother, any new England manager would have been wise to just fuck him off straight away. They'll be wishing they did at some point soon when he does something stupid to make their job harder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 And of course, John Terry being a racist t*** towards Rio's cousin has absolutely f*** all with Rio not being selected. [/selectivemyopia] That's also true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 And of course, John Terry being a racist t*** towards Rio's cousin has absolutely f*** all with Rio not being selected. [/selectivemyopia] That's also true. Actually, it's wrong. Nothing to with Rio's cousin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 And add that Billy is biased in favour of players who didn't drive Astons and Maseratis. Not quite sure what you're implying here? I'm merely using my 30+ years of watching football and coming up with 4 names who in my opinion have been better for England than Rio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 TERRY SAID WHAT!? http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/polopoly_fs/nls_wk23_11_les_ferdinand_1_914832!image/1472389822.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/1472389822.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 TERRY SAID WHAT!? http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/polopoly_fs/nls_wk23_11_les_ferdinand_1_914832!image/1472389822.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/1472389822.jpg OK, OK, I guess I deserve this! I got them muddled in my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Nah I wasn't having a go. Just thinking Sir Les would leave Terry in a Jean Paul Gaultier night bag if he said anything of the sort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 TERRY SAID WHAT!? http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/polopoly_fs/nls_wk23_11_les_ferdinand_1_914832!image/1472389822.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_490/1472389822.jpg OK, OK, I guess I deserve this! I got them muddled in my head. As bad as Terry imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Nah I wasn't having a go. Just thinking Sir Les would leave Terry in a Jean Paul Gaultier[\b] night bag if he said anything of the sort. American Psycho? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Nah I wasn't having a go. Just thinking Sir Les would leave Terry in a Jean Paul Gaultier[\b] night bag if he said anything of the sort. American Psycho? You win a Jean Paul Gaultier Caravan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 It is luck. Your relying on the other team missing 4 or 5 very good chances, for the one chance that you create. The defensive gameplan does rely on luck. Football always depends on luck. Very little details often make the difference between winning and losing in the very big games. Just look at Schweinsteiger's penalty against Chech - great, excellent penalty - that went against the post. Look at Drogba's goal against them - how often will he score a header like that in his whole career? Once? Twice? You always need luck, luck with your players, luck with the referees, luck with the opponents. That's football, that's life. Chelsea are a poor example. That run was heaven sent and extremely lucky. Bayern missed a hatful. Barca missed a hatful at the Bridge. Cech saved 4 outta 7 penalties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 It is luck. Your relying on the other team missing 4 or 5 very good chances, for the one chance that you create. The defensive gameplan does rely on luck. Football always depends on luck. Very little details often make the difference between winning and losing in the very big games. Just look at Schweinsteiger's penalty against Chech - great, excellent penalty - that went against the post. Look at Drogba's goal against them - how often will he score a header like that in his whole career? Once? Twice? You always need luck, luck with your players, luck with the referees, luck with the opponents. That's football, that's life. Chelsea are a poor example. That run was heaven sent and extremely lucky. Bayern missed a hatful. Barca missed a hatful at the Bridge. Cech saved 4 outta 7 penalties. Harsh to claim that as luck tbh As for the rest there was no more luck involved than there was for Barca a few years earlier though tbf, Chelsea battered them, had a couple of solid penalty shouts waved away, and then went behind in the final minute. Same as Inter who sat back and and took a battering away to Barca in the Semis and conceded a legitimate goal which was flagged off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Let's not rewrite history. Ferdinand was a better player than Sol and he's better than Adams was. His performances in Europe as an English CB are unrivaled. Campbell quicker than Ferdinand? Laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Let's not rewrite history. Ferdinand was a better player than Sol and he's better than Adams was. His performances in Europe as an English CB are unrivaled. Campbell quicker than Ferdinand? Laughable. It's all opinions mate. I totally disagree with yours,and you disagree with mine, Adams was an inspirational skipper and solid centre half for England after a few hiccups early in his England career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Let's not rewrite history. Ferdinand was a better player than Sol and he's better than Adams was. His performances in Europe as an English CB are unrivaled. Campbell quicker than Ferdinand? Laughable. Eh? Campbell was fucking lightning in his day and would be Rio hands down everytime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 It is luck. Your relying on the other team missing 4 or 5 very good chances, for the one chance that you create. The defensive gameplan does rely on luck. Football always depends on luck. Very little details often make the difference between winning and losing in the very big games. Just look at Schweinsteiger's penalty against Chech - great, excellent penalty - that went against the post. Look at Drogba's goal against them - how often will he score a header like that in his whole career? Once? Twice? You always need luck, luck with your players, luck with the referees, luck with the opponents. That's football, that's life. Chelsea are a poor example. That run was heaven sent and extremely lucky. Bayern missed a hatful. Barca missed a hatful at the Bridge. Cech saved 4 outta 7 penalties. Harsh to claim that as luck tbh As for the rest there was no more luck involved than there was for Barca a few years earlier though tbf, Chelsea battered them, had a couple of solid penalty shouts waved away, and then went behind in the final minute. Same as Inter who sat back and and took a battering away to Barca in the Semis and conceded a legitimate goal which was flagged off. If your keeper saves 2 penalties that would've meant you would lose each time, luck might not be the word but God is certainly on your side. Really? I'm no Barca fanboy but they dominated the Chelsea games although Chelsea looked very dangerous on the counter at the Bridge. But eventually, Chelsea buckled under the heavy pressure which is often the case when you defend all game (same thing happened against Barca). Barca went on to dominate the final. Chelsea on the other hand can't have had anymore than 8 attempts on target in total in the semi's/final whilst the other teams, missed sitters, hit the post etc. My point is, if the Chelsea tactic is your plan. 9/10 you will lose. Cech played absolute blinders. Messi/Robben/Gomez/Fabregas would be unhappy with their finishing. That Greece team weren't so fortunate when they did the impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Let's not rewrite history. Ferdinand was a better player than Sol and he's better than Adams was. His performances in Europe as an English CB are unrivaled. Campbell quicker than Ferdinand? Laughable. Eh? Campbell was f***ing lightning in his day and would be Rio hands down everytime. Faster than a 27 year old Rio Ferdinand? Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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