Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain. Why? He's a central player (in that he's a key player) for the 3rd best side in the division. I've never got the criticism of Parker. I think its because he doesn't score goals, smack in free-kicks or beat his man. He's a deep lying defensive midfielder stroke anchorman strok link up player. Nothing more. He rarely gives the ball away, offers a defensive screen to his defenders and links play up with his midfield and attack. Every time I see him for Spurs he has often been their best player in terms of consistency. I also thought he was fantastic in his first season here and was disappointed when we got rid. He's a good lad as well so I'm happy for him. You just know he'll be over the f***ing moon at being captain where as you get the impression Gerrard or someone else would be all "meh, I've played in a CL final". England have probably needed a player like Parker for a few years now. Get Wilshire in the side and Cleverley and we'd finally have a technical midfield for once rather the usual of Stevie G, Lamps etc. Those 3 in particular would keep possession very well. How many of the top international sides would he get into? Answer it correctly, and you'll then understand my point. A fit and well Gerrard at least has the semblance of World class, and so to a lesser extent did Lampard. Gerrard is a world-class club player, but a poor international player because technically, he's a limited player. How many international sides would Cabaye get into? How about err, France? My point, its not about other sides its about our own and Scott Parker is one of the best performing midfielders this season for one of the best sides and just so happens to be very good at certain things like breaking up play, finding a team-mate with the ball, and protecting the back four. He's a no brainer basically. By the way, Lampard is and always has been the better footballer than Gerrard. He has that international technique that Gerrard lacks, and maybe if he had someone like Parker behind him in an England shirt, his own England carreer, as decent as it has been, might have been even better. Watch Gerrard try and run with the ball, watch how long his strides are to catch up with it, he gets away with it because he is a powerful, quick and very althetic runner. If he had zero pace and power in his running though, that ball would run off away from him. He's a heavy footed player on the ball. He can hit a great pass from a standing point and he has tremendous shooting power and can drive forward really well, but ask him to play short, intricate passing, at pace and with movement and he cant. Lampard could. Parker can. Totally disagree. And Cabaye would get into the English side if he was English. Would Parker get into the French side if he was French? Mais non. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the fucking barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the fucking barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain. Why? He's a central player (in that he's a key player) for the 3rd best side in the division. I've never got the criticism of Parker. I think its because he doesn't score goals, smack in free-kicks or beat his man. He's a deep lying defensive midfielder stroke anchorman strok link up player. Nothing more. He rarely gives the ball away, offers a defensive screen to his defenders and links play up with his midfield and attack. Every time I see him for Spurs he has often been their best player in terms of consistency. I also thought he was fantastic in his first season here and was disappointed when we got rid. He's a good lad as well so I'm happy for him. You just know he'll be over the f***ing moon at being captain where as you get the impression Gerrard or someone else would be all "meh, I've played in a CL final". England have probably needed a player like Parker for a few years now. Get Wilshire in the side and Cleverley and we'd finally have a technical midfield for once rather the usual of Stevie G, Lamps etc. Those 3 in particular would keep possession very well. How many of the top international sides would he get into? Answer it correctly, and you'll then understand my point. A fit and well Gerrard at least has the semblance of World class, and so to a lesser extent did Lampard. Gerrard is a world-class club player, but a poor international player because technically, he's a limited player. How many international sides would Cabaye get into? How about err, France? My point, its not about other sides its about our own and Scott Parker is one of the best performing midfielders this season for one of the best sides and just so happens to be very good at certain things like breaking up play, finding a team-mate with the ball, and protecting the back four. He's a no brainer basically. By the way, Lampard is and always has been the better footballer than Gerrard. He has that international technique that Gerrard lacks, and maybe if he had someone like Parker behind him in an England shirt, his own England carreer, as decent as it has been, might have been even better. Watch Gerrard try and run with the ball, watch how long his strides are to catch up with it, he gets away with it because he is a powerful, quick and very althetic runner. If he had zero pace and power in his running though, that ball would run off away from him. He's a heavy footed player on the ball. He can hit a great pass from a standing point and he has tremendous shooting power and can drive forward really well, but ask him to play short, intricate passing, at pace and with movement and he cant. Lampard could. Parker can. Totally disagree. And Cabaye would get into the English side if he was English. Would Parker get into the French side if he was French? Mais non. Forget about other sides man. Its about what's best for England and who is best for England. If Parker, one of the best performing players for one of the best performing sides with critical attributes in a defensive and technical perspective, cannot get a game for England, then no-one can. Who do you think we are? What kind of team do you think we are? We are not Spain and never will be. We are England, a country with no real world-class players, but a country with many top-class players, who if selected right and sent out right, can compete. Your would X player get into X side is a daft point anyway. Would Alou Diarra get into the English side? Would Kuyt? Would Luiz? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain. Why? He's a central player (in that he's a key player) for the 3rd best side in the division. I've never got the criticism of Parker. I think its because he doesn't score goals, smack in free-kicks or beat his man. He's a deep lying defensive midfielder stroke anchorman strok link up player. Nothing more. He rarely gives the ball away, offers a defensive screen to his defenders and links play up with his midfield and attack. Every time I see him for Spurs he has often been their best player in terms of consistency. I also thought he was fantastic in his first season here and was disappointed when we got rid. He's a good lad as well so I'm happy for him. You just know he'll be over the f***ing moon at being captain where as you get the impression Gerrard or someone else would be all "meh, I've played in a CL final". England have probably needed a player like Parker for a few years now. Get Wilshire in the side and Cleverley and we'd finally have a technical midfield for once rather the usual of Stevie G, Lamps etc. Those 3 in particular would keep possession very well. How many of the top international sides would he get into? Answer it correctly, and you'll then understand my point. A fit and well Gerrard at least has the semblance of World class, and so to a lesser extent did Lampard. Gerrard is a world-class club player, but a poor international player because technically, he's a limited player. How many international sides would Cabaye get into? How about err, France? My point, its not about other sides its about our own and Scott Parker is one of the best performing midfielders this season for one of the best sides and just so happens to be very good at certain things like breaking up play, finding a team-mate with the ball, and protecting the back four. He's a no brainer basically. By the way, Lampard is and always has been the better footballer than Gerrard. He has that international technique that Gerrard lacks, and maybe if he had someone like Parker behind him in an England shirt, his own England carreer, as decent as it has been, might have been even better. Watch Gerrard try and run with the ball, watch how long his strides are to catch up with it, he gets away with it because he is a powerful, quick and very althetic runner. If he had zero pace and power in his running though, that ball would run off away from him. He's a heavy footed player on the ball. He can hit a great pass from a standing point and he has tremendous shooting power and can drive forward really well, but ask him to play short, intricate passing, at pace and with movement and he cant. Lampard could. Parker can. Totally disagree. And Cabaye would get into the English side if he was English. Would Parker get into the French side if he was French? Mais non. Forget about other sides man. Its about what's best for England and who is best for England. If Parker, one of the best performing players for one of the best performing sides with critical attributes in a defensive and technical perspective, cannot get a game for England, then no-one can. Who do you think we are? What kind of team do you think we are? We are not Spain and never will be. We are England, a country with no real world-class players, but a country with many top-class players, who if selected right and sent out right, can compete. Your would X player get into X side is a daft point anyway. Would Alou Diarra get into the English side? Would Kuyt? Would Luiz? So my original point about how England have regressed you are now agreeing with. I've seen us have world class players, and indeed world class sides. Some have been mismanaged by the manager at the time. Even in 1990 and 1986 we went on to fairly successful tournaments in spite of the manager *tinhat on*, not because of him. Scott Parker , irrespective of him playing for the side that's 3rd in the league, should not be captain of the side.He probably wouldn't be playing if Wilshere was fit. Scott Parker is today's Ray Wilkins. And Daiarra and Kuyt would probably get into the England side. Luiz shouldn't get into any top side as a defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. He only passes sideways or backwards .And also on occasion tackles like Cattermole. You're defeating your own argument, man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. He only passes sideways or backwards .And also on occasion tackles like Cattermole. You're defeating your own argument, man What utter, utter nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 HTT with another set of classic 'speak aload of shit but write loads so it's ok' posts. The bit about Gerrard taking long strides or whatever cracked me up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. He only passes sideways or backwards .And also on occasion tackles like Cattermole. You're defeating your own argument, man What utter, utter nonsense. Did you not watch the North London derby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Still , I imagine when he retires, the producers of Strictly Come Dancing will be bombarding Scott with offers. Such a pirouette. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. He only passes sideways or backwards .And also on occasion tackles like Cattermole. You're defeating your own argument, man What utter, utter nonsense. Did you not watch the North London derby? Yes. Is that all you've ever watched? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Parker isn't an incredibly gifted footballer but he puts more into games than most. Joey did the same and it's their saving virtue because they're not top top players. While Parker spins round and goes for the easy pass, he does help the team to move forward and does nothing to stilt a passing game as long as people make themselves available for him. He's a good player but let him strike a ball and watch and laugh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I used to hate Parker, but he developed his game somewhat. As for Gerrard, he's never turned up at international level. I think a Parker- Wilshere combo would complement each other well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'd play Parker, Wilshere and Gerrard as a central 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. He only passes sideways or backwards .And also on occasion tackles like Cattermole. You're defeating your own argument, man What utter, utter nonsense. Did you not watch the North London derby? Yes. Is that all you've ever watched? Then how is it utter ,utter nonsense? I've watched Parker jump in studs up on more than one occasion, whilst I wouldn't describe him as "dirty" as Cattermole undoubtedly is, that is why I put "on occasion" in my post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'd play Parker, Wilshere and Gerrard as a central 3. Aye, I'd go with this too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 By the way, Scotts Parker gets praised to high heaven especially from fans in general and the media for his work-rate, his tackling, his never say die attitude, his commitment to the cause, which commendable, glosses over what he's really good at - playing football. It says a lot about how fans and the media look at the game and players and just what kind of player we prefer or want in our sides. At Spurs, Parker does less tackling than he has done at all his previous clubs. He is injured less because he's not throwing his body on the line all the time if you like and he makes more forward runs and passes too. Why is that? Because he's on the ball more, its as simple as that. That's what we need to preach, practic and get god damned good at. The complaint at Newcastle was he slowed attacks down, passed it sideways or backwards too much. That was true to an extent but watching him at Spurs I see a very different player on the ball and that's because of the movement up front, he actually has feet to pass to, space to move into, and because the philosophy is on keeping the ball, moving it and making it do all the work. Parker's philsophy or football ideology is obviously all about possession, that's why at Newcastle he would rather pass the ball back or sideways than risk losing it by passing it long or to static bodies up front/into no space. Obviously you have to take a risk now and again, which he does, but the main thing is to keep that ball. In England, we get the ball and we get rid of it as quickly as possible. That's why we are poor in possession individually and especially collectively, even top top players like Gerrard cannot play quick passing football in short spaces and triangles even if he wanted to because technically, he hasn't the ability. And this is a top top player, one of the best we've produced. Yet we would persist with him in midfield at the expense of those who could, Lampard and Scholes for example or even lesser players like Parker, all because well Gerrard scores 20 goals a year man and can also put a tackle in, he plays for Liverpool ye nah. Dont get me wrong he was a great player but he for me sums up our game in every way, ability wise, and how fans, media and even managers see him. Look past the thunderous goals, the leadership skills, the fact he plays for a big club, a top club, and look at his technical ability and its very limited. Put him in Barcelona's team and the game would pass him by. Put Scholes, Lampard, even Parker and they would function in such a side under such a philosophy. Obviously not in the same capacity as Xavi, Iniesta et al, before anyone gets carried away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'd play Parker, Wilshere and Gerrard as a central 3. Na Parker, Wilshere and Rooney infront of them in a free role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 No Krul. Fuck it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 And yet , with all of my criticisms of him, I understand we have very little if any better than him. That's exactly why I'm saying we've regressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Parker is an effective player that most team would be happy to have. I´m quite exited for the game, I always are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Parker is an effective player that most team would be happy to have. I´m quite exited for the game, I always are. Are you Cornish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Not even slightly excited about the match. England has almost no emotional connection for me anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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