Deuce Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 It's imperative they take a midfielder who can actually pass the ball accurately and unlock a defence, but I fear we'll get stuck with the Gerrard-Lampard axis again. Carrick... The poor man's, nay, the homeless man's Yaya. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Scholes should go if he's asked. If he doesn't he's a fucking idiot to turn down one last chance at an international tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Scholes should go if he's asked. If he doesn't he's a fucking idiot to turn down one last chance at an international tournament. Sadly, he's still England's best option, even at 37. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I think Carrick has deserved more England chances TBH, we don't seem to appreciate players like him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I think the team should be picked with a view that it'll have some stability over the next few tournaments rather than trying to drag one more performance out of a team that never really did in the first place... Carrick is a metronomic passer yeah but there's a vast abscence of creativity there. I'd prefer solid back line with holdign midfielders and fast attacking players to hit on counter, rather than some hap-hazard midfield that tries to hold onto the ball further up the pitch. Feel a little harsh on Carrick there...but there's just...like watching a purely functional footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Carrick is non-existant when the team is under the cosh; which we will be for most of the tournament. I'd probably take him but he shouldn't start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Guthrie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I still can't understand how people can glibly disregard Scott Parker as "w***" when he's been one of the better holding players in the country for the past two years and usually performs well against the better teams when we need to win back possession all the time. It's the typical N-O reaction to hype tbh. People don't like former players getting any sort of praise. Thus, any praise is combated with ridicule. No middle ground. Parker needs to start at the Euros. So does the diving, money-grabbing horse, for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Nothing at all to do with Parker been a former player, it's more to do with the cringeworthy and cliche praise he gets from the media, also known as The Gareth Barry Effect. It's a bit harsh on the player himself like, but there needs to be a counter balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 He does get too much praise from the media at times, but he's been good recently and I would definitely but him near the England XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Guthrie Perch and Shola too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Parker's been Englands best player in recent games, man Believe what you want, but Parker's performance against Spain was awesome. He's not technical by any means, but his determination in that game was unreal. If Spain fired a cannon at the goal he would have stuck his head on it. If we have a holding player alongside him capable of doing the technical bit (probably Barry) he's very important. Parker was one of my favourite players for the club while he was here, so maybe I have the blinkers on, but we aren't exactly blessed with options. Was hoping Jack Rodwell would step up but was not to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Parker's been Englands best player in recent games, man Believe what you want, but Parker's performance against Spain was awesome. He's not technical by any means, but his determination in that game was unreal. If Spain fired a cannon at the goal he would have stuck his head on it. If we have a holding player alongside him capable of doing the technical bit (probably Barry) he's very important. Parker was one of my favourite players for the club while he was here, so maybe I have the blinkers on, but we aren't exactly blessed with options. Was hoping Jack Rodwell would step up but was not to be. You need Parker or Barry playing not Parker and Barry. That's when it all becomes lifeless and one paced. Barry has been better than Parker this season IMO. Last two games he's been almost flawless in doing about his work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Please god do not allow Barry to start alongside Parker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Parker's been Englands best player in recent games, man Believe what you want, but Parker's performance against Spain was awesome. He's not technical by any means, but his determination in that game was unreal. If Spain fired a cannon at the goal he would have stuck his head on it. If we have a holding player alongside him capable of doing the technical bit (probably Barry) he's very important. Parker was one of my favourite players for the club while he was here, so maybe I have the blinkers on, but we aren't exactly blessed with options. Was hoping Jack Rodwell would step up but was not to be. You need Parker or Barry playing not Parker and Barry. That's when it all becomes lifeless and one paced. Barry has been better than Parker this season IMO. Last two games he's been almost flawless in doing about his work. I was assuming we'd be playing 3 in midfield. Not really sure how Roy will line them up. Barry and Parker are completely different players. In a 4-4-2, Barry and Parker would be horrible, yes. As a midfield 3 with Wilshere would have been acceptable but no idea how bad his injury is going to affect him atm. At least we have decent wingers, sort of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Please god do not allow Barry to start alongside Parker Green Simpson Shawcross Roger Johnson Richardson Wright Phillips Barry Parker Etherington Carlton Cole Cameron Jerome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 In a midfield 3 for England i'd have Parker over Barry tbh, either way having one of them is unfortunately vital. Who to play ahead of them is the hard bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Parker has been absolute rubbish in the second half of this season which has been completely overlooked by his bumboys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 My team at the moment would be: Hart Richards Terry Lescott Cole The Ox Barry Lampard Young Welbeck Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hart Johnson Ferdinand Lescott Cole Lennon Barry Lampard Young Rooney Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 My team at the moment would be: Hart Richards Terry Lescott Cole The Ox Barry Lampard Young Welbeck Carroll Terry? Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Parker's been Englands best player in recent games, man Believe what you want, but Parker's performance against Spain was awesome. He's not technical by any means, but his determination in that game was unreal. If Spain fired a cannon at the goal he would have stuck his head on it. If we have a holding player alongside him capable of doing the technical bit (probably Barry) he's very important. Parker was one of my favourite players for the club while he was here, so maybe I have the blinkers on, but we aren't exactly blessed with options. Was hoping Jack Rodwell would step up but was not to be. You need Parker or Barry playing not Parker and Barry. That's when it all becomes lifeless and one paced. Barry has been better than Parker this season IMO. Last two games he's been almost flawless in doing about his work. I was assuming we'd be playing 3 in midfield. Not really sure how Roy will line them up. Barry and Parker are completely different players. In a 4-4-2, Barry and Parker would be horrible, yes. As a midfield 3 with Wilshere would have been acceptable but no idea how bad his injury is going to affect him atm. At least we have decent wingers, sort of. Wouldn't start them both in a 3 either, they're far too similar IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Terry should be nowhere near the squad after his antics at the last World Cup, never mind his antics and form since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hart Walker Terry lescott Cole Lampard Barry The Ox Sturridge Young Rooney I do think we need to give some of the youngsters a chance. Struggled to pick a centre mid pairing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 If we want movement then there's probably no other choice tbh, just a shame none of them have really had a decent stint for their clubs this season. EDIT: From our cenral players I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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