Guest Chubby Jason Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 How is he a "moron"? I'm sure you can find one or two incidents that point to extreme moronic behavior on his part if you try hard enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Update: I still hate the cunts running our club. Bye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I assume his young top class replacement will be playing for free of course, not to mention that low, low transfer and signing on fee. Barton is relatively easier to replace to be honest. The real problem is, who next? Coloccini? Nolan? That would be devastating. If the club are indeed trying (in one way or another) to purge the high earners, then you'd have to guess that Colo could be next (assuming Enrique is as good as gone).... he was of course conspicuous by his absence from the 'lap of appreciation' too. What sort of money might Nolan be on, considering he was brought in January 09, well into the current regime, but also pre-relegation clauses, etc? Smith is the main one though - such a drain on wages, for what is essentially a bit part player now. Of course, he's hardly sellable either! There are only three top tier players at Newcastle IMO. Enrique, Tiote, and Coloccini could be classed as that as well. By top tier I mean they are good enough to get the attention of a high profile club. Barton and Nolan are at a lower level and that will be reflected in the teams (or lack of) who show an interest in them. If Coloccini is on the reported 80k/week then I think we'll lose him as well unless he agrees to a cut. He was Ashley's signature signing so there might be more leeway shown but I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Update: I still hate the cunts running our club. Bye. Toodlepip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 NUFCToonTalk Toon Talk JOEY BARTON EXCLUSIVE MESSAGE TO THE FANS TONIGHT 6pm ONLY ON TOON TALK RADIO to tune in www.fansonline.net/newcastleunited RETWEET From twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 He needs to be careful what he says tonight. Don't speak your mind, Joey! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 This will end in tears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Hopefully he's going to say he's sacked his agent and will sign as soon as... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 He needs to be careful what he says tonight. Don't speak your mind, Joey! Depends. If he says something like he has accepted to reduce his wages to fit the wage structure, but wants a 4 year contract while the club is only offering him a 2 year contract, that would be pretty cool. Granted that this is the truth, it really puts pressure on the club to offer him a longer contract as Barton has showed compliance to meet the demands of the club, while nothing has gone the other way. Or it could go down horribly wrong.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 It would be a 2 year extension to his final season as opposed to a 2 year contract so only 1 year difference in terms of what he wants or have i missed something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Barton will be a good player for at least the next three years imo. Give him a three year deal with a 4th year option. I think he will be a good player for 4 years, if not more. The fact that he has quit drinking alcohol can prolong his career quite significantly. If he eats healthy as well, he will probably be at the same level at 33 even. It's a shame Barton doesn't share your optimism about his future ability as if he did you would have thought he would have been happy to sign a 2 year deal knowing that we would have wanted to extent it further in 2 years time, like Man Utd have done with Scholes and Giggs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WisconsinMagpie Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Barton could be a good player for 3 or 4 years and he deserves a role as the club moves forward. But DairylandMag and I have been talking about it, and we just think to give him that sort of wage for that sort of time says he's going to be a major cog if not the centerpiece of the club. While Pardew is trying to remake the club into something bigger and better than one that has Joey Barton as a centerpiece. Posted on it this morning. http://bit.ly/kngXoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 What 'sort of wage'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Oh, this sounds like it will get interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WisconsinMagpie Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 What 'sort of wage'? Well, his wage, but at age 33. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Barton will be a good player for at least the next three years imo. Give him a three year deal with a 4th year option. I think he will be a good player for 4 years, if not more. The fact that he has quit drinking alcohol can prolong his career quite significantly. If he eats healthy as well, he will probably be at the same level at 33 even. It's a shame Barton doesn't share your optimism about his future ability as if he did you would have thought he would have been happy to sign a 2 year deal knowing that we would have wanted to extent it further in 2 years time, like Man Utd have done with Scholes and Giggs. When Giggs was Barton's age he had 4 years left on his contract. when scholes was 2 years older than Barton is now, he signed a 4 year contract. a couple of months ago Evra, a year older than Barton is now, signed a 3 and a half year contract. so really that point doesn't hold up to scrutiny. can't blame Barton for wanting the security of a longer contract. similarly, i can see why the club would be hesitant to give him a new deal based on how 75% of his newcastle career has been - shit. still, judging from McKay's comments, i expect he's instructed Barton to be conciliatory in his interview tonight, sensing that there's still a comprimise to be had somewhere down the line. whether Barton keeps his cool is another matter, mind... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 What 'sort of wage'? Well, his wage, but at age 33. He's offered to take a reduction in wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Oh dear. I think tonight's interview will hasten Barton's departure. http://www.toonpool.com/user/589/files/when_the_shit_hits_the_fan_321595.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WisconsinMagpie Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 What 'sort of wage'? Well, his wage, but at age 33. He's offered to take a reduction in wages. Point taken. Still, it's a long commitment at a not insignificant price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 In fact, both sides are not optimistic about Barton's ability at 32 years old, including Barton himself If he is able to perform that well at that time, he would have no problem to get another extension with similar wages right? Anyway, I hope he can agree with a 3 years contract...that will be the best for all parties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Barton will be a good player for at least the next three years imo. Give him a three year deal with a 4th year option. I think he will be a good player for 4 years, if not more. The fact that he has quit drinking alcohol can prolong his career quite significantly. If he eats healthy as well, he will probably be at the same level at 33 even. It's a shame Barton doesn't share your optimism about his future ability as if he did you would have thought he would have been happy to sign a 2 year deal knowing that we would have wanted to extent it further in 2 years time, like Man Utd have done with Scholes and Giggs. When Giggs was Barton's age he had 4 years left on his contract. when scholes was 2 years older than Barton is now, he signed a 4 year contract. a couple of months ago Evra, a year older than Barton is now, signed a 3 and a half year contract. so really that point doesn't hold up to scrutiny. can't blame Barton for wanting the security of a longer contract. similarly, i can see why the club would be hesitant to give him a new deal based on how 75% of his newcastle career has been - s***. still, judging from McKay's comments, i expect he's instructed Barton to be conciliatory in his interview tonight, sensing that there's still a comprimise to be had somewhere down the line. whether Barton keeps his cool is another matter, mind... Can you not see the difference between offering Joey Barton a long contract and offering one to Giggs, Evra and Scholes??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Barton could be a good player for 3 or 4 years and he deserves a role as the club moves forward. But DairylandMag and I have been talking about it, and we just think to give him that sort of wage for that sort of time says he's going to be a major cog if not the centerpiece of the club.While Pardew is trying to remake the club into something bigger and better than one that has Joey Barton as a centerpiece. Posted on it this morning. http://bit.ly/kngXoy That's the crux of the argument for me. Personally I believe we can do better than Barton a year down the line so why give him or Nolan longer deals? This only applies if the club have that same vision and aren't going to replace him with someone cheaper but inferior. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WisconsinMagpie Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 In fact, both sides are not optimistic about Barton's ability at 32 years old, including Barton himself If he is able to perform that well at that time, he would have no problem to get another extension with similar wages right? Players think that way. Agents don't. That's the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caz Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Interesting to find out what he's going to say, hopefully it won't make things worse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 George Caulkin's tweets mention 'furious rows behind the scenes' involving Barton (though no context/time mentioned), and that the club feel he's 'difficult to handle/manage'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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