Joey Barton (now retired)

[Guest cr4igora]

People need to find ways to justify the idea that Bartons turned into an animal again, so that they can delude themselves about our club actually being run really well as it'll make them feel a bit better. He spoke out on twitter, following Enrique? Forget Enrique, Bartons going to ruin morale !!

He was supposedly annoyed during a match we poor in v Leeds? There are definately no alternative responses if true, other than making him train alone. Pardew could not talk to him about it, he could not be fined, the situation could not be calmed in anyway using communication. No, we need punishment & to expand the situation further.

 

People who don't agree with what Barton has done are NOT CLAIMING THE CLUB IS BEING RUN WELL FFS!! That's nonsense. I don't like who runs our club, I don't like the LARGE majority of the decisions that have been made and I hate the lies we are fed. In this instance however, I believe we have done the right thing. It's just a shame we won't get a fee for him when he leaves.

[Skirge]

I guess what Fergie would or would not have done does not really matter.. whats done here is done, joey has made his bed, my concern is not so much losing Joey but being another squad member down.

 

If he cared he would not still be tweeting, maybe he should be trying to put things right, is he doing that? no he is not and in my opinion that is because he has got exactly what he wanted.

To let him anywhere near the squad now would be utterly pointless, he is bound to try and cause as much unrest as he can,. I am more interested is backing the players we have thats all that matters now.

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I might be even more damaging to let him train with them TBH. I don't know either way, but it's certainly possible.

 

I am not convinced the squad will be bothered, maybe really they are breathing a sigh of relief, if he really that popular with the others?

 

What are the basis for these posts, other than pure hope that we are not dealing with this situation in an awful manner?

 

The basis for mine is that he's quite an unstable and outspoken character, who is now unhappy at the club. Therefore he might well unsettle our players more by training with them than by being made to train alone.

 

If I was R Kelly and could turn back the hands of time, I would just fine Joey and try to move on, but that's not the situation.

[nufcjmc]

Look, whats done is done. 

 

He needs to be moved on ASAP.

 

End of.

 

 

 

agreed as the situation carries on its damned if you do damned if you dont the best answer is for him to leave as soon as possible there is no right and wrong way of dealing with this now.

[Colocho]

Champions League club in for him.

[taxfree]

Good or not good, he's still an idiot and the club made the correct decision. And I think many other clubs would have done exactly the same.

 

It's a shit decision. The situation wouldn't come up in most other clubs. You can thank Ashley & co for that.

[lovejoy]

arsenal.

[dcmk]

Latest Twitter update:

 

Joey7Barton

"Made to train alone today, how predictable........."

 

Oh dear.

 

I think a lot worse has gone on than we know about or are going to find out about. None of the sources on either side can really be trusted to tell the truth when we do hear their point of view anyway, but the decision to treat a player like this isn't made because of a few minor misdemeanours.

 

 

I'm sorry, but that's absolutely pathetic.

 

Damaging for the morale of the entire team, watching their sometimes Captain made to train alone.

 

Disgusting.

 

do you believe barton is whiter than white in this?

 

Well considering a lot of the other twitter users in the team publicly backed him in this, suggests they don't find him the main antagonist

 

That reply is far to sensible. People need to find ways to justify the idea that Bartons turned into an animal again, so that they can delude themselves about our club actually being run really well as it'll make them feel a bit better.

 

He spoke out on twitter, following Enrique? Forget Enrique, Bartons going to ruin morale !!

He was supposedly annoyed during a match we poor in v Leeds? There are definately no alternative responses if true, other than making him train alone. Pardew could not talk to him about it, he could not be fined, the situation could not be calmed in anyway using communication. No, we need punishment & to expand the situation further.

 

Its complete stupidity.

 

In some fans cases here i personally believe they don't want to hear anything bad about the club, they want to keep this idea in their head that everything is fine and the players are happy and proud to be here!

 

So in the case when a player speaks out it is then the very defensive attitude of  'oh X is doing this just for his own greed/ego.  He should leave and not piss out the rest'.

 

I can personally understand it, the fact that this isn't an isolated incident makes it difficult to buy that JB is unsupported by the rest of the team

[Mick]

 

Exactly.. he has brought this on himself and as he is still intent on using twitter to air his views it just shows how little care about the damage he does.

It would seem this has more to do with his attitude in the dressing room and him thinking he has the right to demand a say on team tactics and squad selection.  As was the way with Nolan under Hughton, big headed self important players, who in the end can not be good for the moral of the team.

Would Fergie allow that kind of player at Man U ? not a chance.

 

 

Jose was only fined as he spoke out on twitter, I think Joey was on hid way before he started his tweets on Sunday.

 

 

You should write novels, you have one hell of an imagination.

 

 

[ToonTastic]

I guess what Fergie would or would not have done does not really matter.. whats done here is done, joey has made his bed, my concern is not so much losing Joey but being another squad member down.

 

If he cared he would not still be tweeting, maybe he should be trying to put things right, is he doing that? no he is not and in my opinion that is because he has got exactly what he wanted.

To let him anywhere near the squad now would be utterly pointless, he is bound to try and cause as much unrest as he can,. I am more interested is backing the players we have thats all that matters now.

 

 

What benefit has to had to any of the players keeping quiet about how bad things have been since Ashley took over ? There comes a point when people think they have to do something to force some sort of change. Not just for the good of themselves but also for the good of the team.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Good or not good, he's still an idiot and the club made the correct decision. And I think many other clubs would have done exactly the same.

 

It's a shit decision. The situation wouldn't come up in most other clubs. You can thank Ashley & co for that.

 

True, but Joey Barton isn't most players either.

[Guest andyburn]

Good or not good, he's still an idiot and the club made the correct decision. And I think many other clubs would have done exactly the same.

 

To let him go for free?  If your car or pc was playing up and still had value, would you just chuck it outside for someone to pick up and use? No you wouldn't.  And if you would then you are as big an "idiot" as Barton.

[SUPERTOON]

The most worrying thing for us now, is that we have lost a very good player, and there is no sign we will replace him.

[ToonTastic]

Latest Twitter update:

 

Joey7Barton

"Made to train alone today, how predictable........."

 

Oh dear.

 

I think a lot worse has gone on than we know about or are going to find out about. None of the sources on either side can really be trusted to tell the truth when we do hear their point of view anyway, but the decision to treat a player like this isn't made because of a few minor misdemeanours.

 

 

I'm sorry, but that's absolutely pathetic.

 

Damaging for the morale of the entire team, watching their sometimes Captain made to train alone.

 

Disgusting.

 

do you believe barton is whiter than white in this?

 

Well considering a lot of the other twitter users in the team publicly backed him in this, suggests they don't find him the main antagonist

 

That reply is far to sensible. People need to find ways to justify the idea that Bartons turned into an animal again, so that they can delude themselves about our club actually being run really well as it'll make them feel a bit better.

 

He spoke out on twitter, following Enrique? Forget Enrique, Bartons going to ruin morale !!

He was supposedly annoyed during a match we poor in v Leeds? There are definately no alternative responses if true, other than making him train alone. Pardew could not talk to him about it, he could not be fined, the situation could not be calmed in anyway using communication. No, we need punishment & to expand the situation further.

 

Its complete stupidity.

 

In some fans cases here i personally believe they don't want to hear anything bad about the club, they want to keep this idea in their head that everything is fine and the players are happy and proud to be here!

 

So in the case when a player speaks out it is then the very defensive attitude of  'oh X is doing this just for his own greed/ego.  He should leave and not p*ss out the rest'.

 

I can personally understand it, the fact that this isn't an isolated incident makes it difficult to buy that JB is unsupported by the rest of the team

 

Nicely put.

[BlueStar]

Good or not good, he's still an idiot and the club made the correct decision. And I think many other clubs would have done exactly the same.

 

As I've already said, I think if Mike and Derek were at any other club the players would do the same - ie at least a handful of them would air their grievances about working at a club run by incompetents.

 

And don't think it's just a prima donna footballer thing, I think if you were at any organisation that employed 25 of the top 500 or so of their profession in the country and started dicking them about and ruining the company I think you'd find pockets of open dissent in the ranks.

[Vincent Vega]

Yeah im aware that they play in different positions but Barton was putting some good set pieces and corners in last season which lead to a fair few goals Cabaye seems to be taking on that roll?

[Colocho]

Yeah im aware that they play in different positions but Barton was putting some good set pieces and corners in last season which lead to a fair few goals Cabaye seems to be taking on that roll?

 

People see Cabaye as Nolan's replacement, he is in fact Barton's in many ways.

[Guest cr4igora]

It's a s*** decision. The situation wouldn't come up in most other clubs. You can thank Ashley & co for that.

 

Most clubs don't have a loose cannon like Joey Barton in their team, surrounded in controversy all-year-round.

[ChrisMcQuillan]

Latest Twitter update:

 

Joey7Barton

"Made to train alone today, how predictable........."

 

Oh dear.

 

I think a lot worse has gone on than we know about or are going to find out about. None of the sources on either side can really be trusted to tell the truth when we do hear their point of view anyway, but the decision to treat a player like this isn't made because of a few minor misdemeanours.

 

 

I'm sorry, but that's absolutely pathetic.

 

Damaging for the morale of the entire team, watching their sometimes Captain made to train alone.

 

Disgusting.

 

do you believe barton is whiter than white in this?

 

Well considering a lot of the other twitter users in the team publicly backed him in this, suggests they don't find him the main antagonist

 

That reply is far to sensible. People need to find ways to justify the idea that Bartons turned into an animal again, so that they can delude themselves about our club actually being run really well as it'll make them feel a bit better.

 

He spoke out on twitter, following Enrique? Forget Enrique, Bartons going to ruin morale !!

He was supposedly annoyed during a match we poor in v Leeds? There are definately no alternative responses if true, other than making him train alone. Pardew could not talk to him about it, he could not be fined, the situation could not be calmed in anyway using communication. No, we need punishment & to expand the situation further.

 

Its complete stupidity.

 

In some fans cases here i personally believe they don't want to hear anything bad about the club, they want to keep this idea in their head that everything is fine and the players are happy and proud to be here!

 

So in the case when a player speaks out it is then the very defensive attitude of  'oh X is doing this just for his own greed/ego.  He should leave and not p*ss out the rest'.

 

I can personally understand it, the fact that this isn't an isolated incident makes it difficult to buy that JB is unsupported by the rest of the team

 

This.

[ToonTastic]

It's a s*** decision. The situation wouldn't come up in most other clubs. You can thank Ashley & co for that.

 

Most clubs don't have a loose cannon like Joey Barton in their team, surrounded in controversy all-year-round.

 

Most clubs don't have 4 others openly backing up the so called loose cannon

[Jayson]

People need to find ways to justify the idea that Bartons turned into an animal again, so that they can delude themselves about our club actually being run really well as it'll make them feel a bit better. He spoke out on twitter, following Enrique? Forget Enrique, Bartons going to ruin morale !!

He was supposedly annoyed during a match we poor in v Leeds? There are definately no alternative responses if true, other than making him train alone. Pardew could not talk to him about it, he could not be fined, the situation could not be calmed in anyway using communication. No, we need punishment & to expand the situation further.

 

People who don't agree with what Barton has done are NOT CLAIMING THE CLUB IS BEING RUN WELL FFS!! That's nonsense. I don't like who runs our club, I don't like the LARGE majority of the decisions that have been made and I hate the lies we are fed. In this instance however, I believe we have done the right thing. It's just a shame we won't get a fee for him, when he leaves.

 

So the large amount of shock due to how this has been handled, doesnt suggest to you that there was any other way to deal with this situation?

 

You think this decision is the least likely to affect club morale (given the current viewable reaction of the players) & the one most likely to bring us success to Newcastle United?

 

Really ?

[sugoinufc]

can´t wait to hear how Pardew will try to explain and clean this mess up?

[BlueStar]

It's a s*** decision. The situation wouldn't come up in most other clubs. You can thank Ashley & co for that.

 

Most clubs don't have a loose cannon like Joey Barton in their team, surrounded in controversy all-year-round.

 

Most clubs don't have this pair of morons in charge, and if they did you'd suddenly find there's a lot of "loose cannons" in your squad who won't put up with what they're doing in silence. 

[Mick]

 

Most clubs don't have a loose cannon like Joey Barton in their team, surrounded in controversy all-year-round.

 

We're not most clubs, the whole club is surrounded by controversy, not just Barton but carry on living in lala land.

[Big Geordie]

Probably been said, but it seems once again that Ashley not only has the local media in his pocket, but also some of the national media. The local media probably want to keep him sweet, so will watch what they say and I'd imagine that he has mate's in the national press who will look after him too. Didn't one of them used to write for the NotW? Either way, it's a sorry state of affairs when recent history is being revised to get Barton out of the door and also to get NUFC fans to turn against him. What a scummy club we currently support. Makes me ashamed to be a black and white at the moment. Even more so than when those knackers ran on the pitch at Darlington the other week - this is far worse.

 

And again, which quality players are going to come and play for an owner who will stab you in the back at the first available sign of dissent/opportunity?