Joey Barton (now retired)

[afar]

I didn't think Barton did too much wrong today, especially given the fact he was stamped on and slapped. I'd of lost it.

 

This, put a the people crying foul, in the same situ as Joey was in today and bet you would not see much difference in their reactions. Joey could have actually completely exploded, but he didn't, a few years ago he probably would have.

[Neil]

Thought it was pretty shameful tbh- after he had a go at Pedersen for going down too easy (and responded by smacking him) I think he's truly embarrassed himself. Wish he'd cut this s*** out of his game, if it was a player from any other club people would be queueing up to have a go at him.

 

sigh

 

What?

 

As I said, if it was a player from the other team people would have gone off it. Sick of him posturing as a moral benchmark on Twitter when he dives and stubs out cigars in peoples eyes.

 

I entirely agree with you, was wonder what afar was sighing about.

 

There's this "Barton gets overly victimised" mentality, but it appears to be going to the other extreme of "look at them picking on Barton". He acted like a grade A t*** today and should deservedly be criticised for it.

 

How about Gervinho or Song, how did they act, why arn't you talking about them ?

 

 

They were angels.

 

Don't use such idiotic reasoning, man. Why on earth would I be excusing how they acted? It doesn't mean Barton didn't act like a bellend himself. Instead of "OMG LOOK AT BARTON BEING CRITICISED THE PRESS HATE HIM"... maybe he's being criticised because he, er, was an idiot today? Just a thought.

Nothing idiotic at all, just be fair with your critcism, all Joey did was pull up a cheater from the ground, he did it a little overly aggressive and deserved a yellow, but he had just been cowardly stamped on by a player that wasn't punished and saw a fellow player trying to cheat his team out of a well deserved point.

 

But lets just talk about Joey and not those two other guys who commited far worse crimes today than our number 7.

 

Song was the worst of the lot, I thought that would blatantly go without saying? Minimum 3 match ban.

[Anderson]

Thought it was pretty shameful tbh- after he had a go at Pedersen for going down too easy (and responded by smacking him) I think he's truly embarrassed himself. Wish he'd cut this s*** out of his game, if it was a player from any other club people would be queueing up to have a go at him.

 

sigh

 

What?

 

As I said, if it was a player from the other team people would have gone off it. Sick of him posturing as a moral benchmark on Twitter when he dives and stubs out cigars in peoples eyes.

 

I entirely agree with you, was wonder what afar was sighing about.

 

There's this "Barton gets overly victimised" mentality, but it appears to be going to the other extreme of "look at them picking on Barton". He acted like a grade A t*** today and should deservedly be criticised for it.

 

How about Gervinho or Song, how did they act, why arn't you talking about them ?

 

 

They were angels.

 

Don't use such idiotic reasoning, man. Why on earth would I be excusing how they acted? It doesn't mean Barton didn't act like a bellend himself. Instead of "OMG LOOK AT BARTON BEING CRITICISED THE PRESS HATE HIM"... maybe he's being criticised because he, er, was an idiot today? Just a thought.

Nothing idiotic at all, just be fair with your critcism, all Joey did was pull up a cheater from the ground, he did it a little overly aggressive and deserved a yellow, but he had just been cowardly stamped on by a player that wasn't punished and saw a fellow player trying to cheat his team out of a well deserved point.

 

But lets just talk about Joey and not those two other guys who commited far worse crimes today than our number 7.

 

Song was the worst of the lot, I thought that would blatantly go without saying? Minimum 3 match ban.

 

Aye if Song doesn't get a ban it's a fucking joke, like Joey's already said, imagine if it was him doing the stamping.

[Aphrodite]

Thought it was pretty shameful tbh- after he had a go at Pedersen for going down too easy (and responded by smacking him) I think he's truly embarrassed himself. Wish he'd cut this s*** out of his game, if it was a player from any other club people would be queueing up to have a go at him.

 

sigh

 

What?

 

As I said, if it was a player from the other team people would have gone off it. Sick of him posturing as a moral benchmark on Twitter when he dives and stubs out cigars in peoples eyes.

 

I entirely agree with you, was wonder what afar was sighing about.

 

There's this "Barton gets overly victimised" mentality, but it appears to be going to the other extreme of "look at them picking on Barton". He acted like a grade A t*** today and should deservedly be criticised for it.

 

How about Gervinho or Song, how did they act, why arn't you talking about them ?

 

 

They were angels.

 

Don't use such idiotic reasoning, man. Why on earth would I be excusing how they acted? It doesn't mean Barton didn't act like a bellend himself. Instead of "OMG LOOK AT BARTON BEING CRITICISED THE PRESS HATE HIM"... maybe he's being criticised because he, er, was an idiot today? Just a thought.

 

If it was any other player there wouldn't be such a hysterical reaction. Sorry, but that's the truth. The press and the fans love a villain and Barton fits that bill.

 

The reason he gets talked about is because he does those things though. Can't think of any of his red cards or criminal convictions which have been unwarranted

[afar]

Thought it was pretty shameful tbh- after he had a go at Pedersen for going down too easy (and responded by smacking him) I think he's truly embarrassed himself. Wish he'd cut this s*** out of his game, if it was a player from any other club people would be queueing up to have a go at him.

 

sigh

 

What?

 

As I said, if it was a player from the other team people would have gone off it. Sick of him posturing as a moral benchmark on Twitter when he dives and stubs out cigars in peoples eyes.

 

I entirely agree with you, was wonder what afar was sighing about.

 

There's this "Barton gets overly victimised" mentality, but it appears to be going to the other extreme of "look at them picking on Barton". He acted like a grade A t*** today and should deservedly be criticised for it.

 

How about Gervinho or Song, how did they act, why arn't you talking about them ?

 

 

They were angels.

 

Don't use such idiotic reasoning, man. Why on earth would I be excusing how they acted? It doesn't mean Barton didn't act like a bellend himself. Instead of "OMG LOOK AT BARTON BEING CRITICISED THE PRESS HATE HIM"... maybe he's being criticised because he, er, was an idiot today? Just a thought.

Nothing idiotic at all, just be fair with your critcism, all Joey did was pull up a cheater from the ground, he did it a little overly aggressive and deserved a yellow, but he had just been cowardly stamped on by a player that wasn't punished and saw a fellow player trying to cheat his team out of a well deserved point.

 

But lets just talk about Joey and not those two other guys who commited far worse crimes today than our number 7.

 

Song was the worst of the lot, I thought that would blatantly go without saying? Minimum 3 match ban.

 

Who's the one getting murdered by the press and fans ? Song, Barton or Gervinho ? You can't make this stuff up, you really can't.

[GM]

Showed today why he's not worthy of being a captain.

 

I don't know if you can say that, really. Making him captain could do him (and us) a world of good. Only one way to find out for sure.

[midds]

Song will get 3 games out, nailed on. It's violent conduct.

[Ryan_Taylor]

Song will get 3 games out, nailed on. It's violent conduct.

 

Was on MOTD. Not English so he didn't get protected like Carragher

[KaKa]

In Joey's special universe he had decided that everyone saw Song's stamp and decided to ignore it because the stamp was on him, Joey Barton. This is completely illogical and completely mental. It happened in a flash and I didn't even notice until the replay.

 

He therefore uses this as an excuse to yank Gervinho up aggresively and continue pulling him by the collar. In my opinion Gervinho showed unbelievable restraint. I know had it been me being dragged like that I would have struck him with my fist instantly, he's a f***ing idiot. Yes Gervinho dived, it's one thing to get in his face and let him know it was a disgusting dive, like most other footballers do, and another thing completely to yank him up like that.

 

If what Joey had done was so normel, and "not a big deal", then all of the Newcastle players wouldn't have rushed over in such a panic to try and break it up, which they struggled to do because Joey was manhandling the guy in a completely unnacceptable fashion.

 

Things will not end well for Joey Barton. It seems he will never change, and this sort of continuous behaviour will always lead to big trouble.

[alexthegreat]

Thought it was pretty shameful tbh- after he had a go at Pedersen for going down too easy (and responded by smacking him) I think he's truly embarrassed himself. Wish he'd cut this s*** out of his game, if it was a player from any other club people would be queueing up to have a go at him.

 

sigh

 

What?

 

As I said, if it was a player from the other team people would have gone off it. Sick of him posturing as a moral benchmark on Twitter when he dives and stubs out cigars in peoples eyes.

 

I entirely agree with you, was wonder what afar was sighing about.

 

There's this "Barton gets overly victimised" mentality. He acted like a grade A t*** today and should deservedly be criticised for it.

 

Barton has serious problems. In his head he is always the victim. Having a bunch of people jumping on twitter and encouraging his delusion is only going to make the whole thing worse.

 

Why on Earth they were reading his twitter ramblings on MOTD is beyond me. Shouldn't be encouraging him or footballers in general to be on there talking rubbish all the time.

 

 

 

Agree with this like. I wonder if he has had this aspect of his personality "rehabilitated":

 

 

“I used to sit in school and look at the other kids and think, ‘These aren’t the same as me’. And I even look at people today and think, ‘They’re not the same’. And I don't know what it is. I almost felt like I had a higher calling, you know, there was some reason. And I thought it was football but the more and more I play football, the more and more I think it’s not football. I don’t know what it is, and until this day I still haven’t got my finger on it.” - Joey Barton

 

From Aug 2008:

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle4449472.ece

 

 

[Guest Potter]

In Joey's special universe he had decided that everyone saw Song's stamp and decided to ignore it because the stamp was on him, Joey Barton. This is completely illogical and completely mental. It happened in a flash and I didn't even notice until the replay.

 

He therefore uses this as an excuse to yank Gervinho up aggresively and continue pulling him by the collar. In my opinion Gervinho showed unbelievable restraint. I know had it been me being dragged like that I would have struck him with my fist instantly, he's a f***ing idiot. Yes Gervinho dived, it's one thing to get in his face and let him know it was a disgusting dive, like most other footballers do, and another thing completely to yank him up like that.

 

If what Joey had done was so normel, and "not a big deal", then all of the Newcastle players wouldn't have rushed over in such a panic to try and break it up, which they struggled to do because Joey was manhandling the guy in a completely unnacceptable fashion.

 

Things will not end well for Joey Barton. It seems he will never change, and this sort of continuous behaviour will always lead to big trouble.

 

If I had to define bias, I'd use this.

[Sifu]

Hope Song does get punished for that stamp.

[Neil]

The crime-sheet carried far more of note than the stalemate between Newcastle United and Arsenal. Even for those of us watching on television, what occurred in the second half made instantly depressing viewing, one that will have the guardians of the game’s image squirming in embarrassment. When was the Premier League’s launch of its “Get on with the Game” campaign? Thursday. How easily they forget.

 

Barton was more sinned against than sinning but hardly emerges well from the wearying scenes at St James’ Park. The Newcastle midfielder was stamped on by Song, who should have been dismissed by Peter Walton. Song deserves the FA’s disciplinary department coming through his door early tomorrow morning, brandishing a three-game ban. It was dangerous, cynical and cowardly.

 

Barton was understandably angered and his fuse began burning in familiar fashion. This is a player who cannot visit the United States because of past misdemeanours, who will not be considered for England duty because Fabio Capello is very aware of the prickly nature of Barton’s personality. Yet in fairness to Barton he has sought to control his notorious temper, to stop that switch in his head from flicking into mayhem mode. He has had extensive counselling, given up alcohol, and tried to keep the demons in check.

 

Once so negative, that energy flow needs an outlet, and Barton seems to have spent the past month pouring it out on Twitter. He has engaged in jousts with his many followers on Twitter, including a lengthy late-night exchange with this columnist, involving George Orwell quotes. When I wished him luck on whatever road took him in life, even on the road to Wigan pier, I had concerned enquiries from Newcastle fans as to whether Barton was off to the DW Stadium.

 

Barton appears to possess one of those hyperactive personalities, always needing something to occupy him. Honest about his earlier transgressions, Barton now reacts when he feels the victim. Song’s stamp fuelled that grievance. So when Gervinho dived, Barton responded, dragging the Ivorian up, and then squaring up. Gervinho slapped Barton, who reacted pathetically, collapsing as if he had encountered Mike Tyson. How rugby union players must laugh at the kindergarten antics of footballers. Gervinho’s effort was hardly Manu Tuilagi.

 

There can be no sympathy for Gervinho, and the inevitable red arrived for raising his hands, but there will also be widespread consternation that Barton received only a yellow.

 

Taylor should have a word with Barton, repeating the sentiments he expressed at the Premier League’s “Get on with the Game’’ launch. “I know I’m being a hostage to fortune,’’ said Taylor prophetically, “but, bearing in mind the social unrest, football is the one thing I can think of that brings together every section of the community.’’ Football can distract, inspire, unite. Footballers, many from socially-deprived backgrounds, can show troubled teenagers that hard work can bring huge rewards.

 

“We try to impress on players that image of the game is important,’’ continued Taylor. “It’s important the game is played in the best spirit, that there’s respect for opponents. Footballers are expected to have old heads on young shoulders.” Sadly, Barton too often gives the impression of having an empty head on young shoulders. After being surrounded by irate Arsenal players, Barton signalled to Robin van Persie his belief that Gervinho had hit him with a punch. Barton has some soul-searching to do after this incident.

 

A Premier League inquest is required into the apparent lack of communication between the officials, establishing whether low batteries meant the headsets didn’t function. More significantly, the Football Association needs to consider introducing sin-bins which seem to work well in rugby.

 

So the season has started with a stamp, a dive, a slap and a shredding of hopes for more respect. “The referees have said there’s been a noticeable difference in players,’’ remarked Taylor on Thursday. Not for long.

[alexthegreat]

He has engaged in jousts with his many followers on Twitter, including a lengthy late-night exchange with this columnist, involving George Orwell quotes. When I wished him luck on whatever road took him in life, even on the road to Wigan pier, I had concerned enquiries from Newcastle fans as to whether Barton was off to the DW Stadium.

 

[Aphrodite]

He has engaged in jousts with his many followers on Twitter, including a lengthy late-night exchange with this columnist, involving George Orwell quotes. When I wished him luck on whatever road took him in life, even on the road to Wigan pier, I had concerned enquiries from Newcastle fans as to whether Barton was off to the DW Stadium.

 

 

Brilliant.

[binnsy]

Yes Barton might have went down easy but although contact wasn't great Gervinho did raise his hands and if he Joey hadn't hit the deck i doubt from where the ref was and the linesman were i don't think the ref would have sent him off.  Joey would be getting slated on here now for not going down if Gervinho has ended up staying on and popped up to grab a late winner for them.

 

Yes it was soft and didn't look good and while it may have stretched the gamesmanship Joey going down and making the decision easier for the ref was good play and could have helped us grab all three points.

[JH]

Thought it was pretty shameful tbh- after he had a go at Pedersen for going down too easy (and responded by smacking him) I think he's truly embarrassed himself. Wish he'd cut this s*** out of his game, if it was a player from any other club people would be queueing up to have a go at him.

 

sigh

 

What?

 

As I said, if it was a player from the other team people would have gone off it. Sick of him posturing as a moral benchmark on Twitter when he dives and stubs out cigars in peoples eyes.

 

tbf, Jonas could smack the ball clear as day out of play and people at SJP would go off it when the ref gives the opposition a throw in

[Aphrodite]

Thought it was pretty shameful tbh- after he had a go at Pedersen for going down too easy (and responded by smacking him) I think he's truly embarrassed himself. Wish he'd cut this s*** out of his game, if it was a player from any other club people would be queueing up to have a go at him.

 

sigh

 

What?

 

As I said, if it was a player from the other team people would have gone off it. Sick of him posturing as a moral benchmark on Twitter when he dives and stubs out cigars in peoples eyes.

 

tbf, Jonas could smack the ball clear as day out of play and people at SJP would go off it when the ref gives the opposition a throw in

 

I remember someone (think it was Kaz) arguing that Pedersen was feigning injury after he got basically GBHd by Barton

[thenige]

Do like Henry Winter, comes across as a thoroughly likeable bloke. Wish the club would hurry up and ban Barton from twitter mind.

[The Prophet]

Like I said, had he dragged him too his feet, grapppled and that had been it they would of both got yellows, Gervinho was daft enough to react and he suffered the consequences. Barton's behaviour was far from innocent but had Gervinho not been dismissed I doubt anyone would have been calling for a red on Barton's part, it was handbags for the most part.

[Ketsbaia]

Wonder if the club will offer him a new deal on the condition that he quits twitter. Its fun to read as fans but it must be giving our hierarchy nightmares.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Got a feeling we would have lost today if he hadn't been playing. I'm not a mad Joey fan and I think his outbursts are idiotic, but you can't deny he gives another dimension to our team.

[TRon]

I thought he was really lucky not to have got sent off after yanking Gervinho from the ground by his shirt. You shouldn't lay your hands on a player in such an aggressive manner and expect to get away with it. I find it amusing that anyone who sees it that way is accused of bias. The irony

[Toon Hoser]

1 Barton #7 shirt

+ 1 stylish bit of haircutting

+ BB/iphone in one hand

+ Collected Works of Friedrich Nietzsche in the other hand

 

= instant Halloween kit. 

 

 

 

...that is, if I still got Halloween party invites at my advanced age...

[Guest Shaun]

Didn't see anything wrong with Barton helping Gervinho to his feet. I seem to remember Rio Ferdinand doing the same with Torres.