Guest bimpy474 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Feck me this bloody site makes late for bed every night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Seriously though, when people see Barton getting £80k a week for 3-years, and Nolan getting £55k a week for 5 years, can you: a) Blame the club for not matching. b) Blame the player for not turning it down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Who gives a f*** if he's shown no ambition, man? How exactly could he have shown ambition? He had the choice of staying at a club that didn't want him or moving to a lesser club. The big teams were never going to come in for him, this doesn't mean getting rid is somehow a stroke of genius. Some may take pleasure from watching Joey get relegated this season, but nothing positive has came out of this saga for NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Who gives a fuck if he's shown no ambition, man? How exactly could he have shown ambition? He had the choice of staying at a club that didn't want him or moving to a lesser club. The big teams were never going to come in for him, this doesn't mean getting rid is somehow a stroke of genius. Some may take pleasure from watching Joey get relegated this season, but nothing positive has came out of this saga for NUFC. Spot on. Barton's kicking off about a new contract now because he's just come off the back off a good season (just like Nolan did). He talked about being one of the best midfielders in England last season after doing nothing for his first 3 years in Newcastle. If he was genuinely ambitious, he would be confident enough to know that he can continue to perform at the same level this season and be in a MUCH stronger position to renegotiate a new deal with NUFC (by Xmas) or with another team next June. That's how Barton shows his ambition. Not by piddling off to some newly promoted team at the first sign of $$$ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Who gives a f*** if he's shown no ambition, man? How exactly could he have shown ambition? He had the choice of staying at a club that didn't want him or moving to a lesser club. The big teams were never going to come in for him, this doesn't mean getting rid is somehow a stroke of genius. Some may take pleasure from watching Joey get relegated this season, but nothing positive has came out of this saga for NUFC. Stay, play well and let the chips fall where they may. I don't think anyones said it was genius, so you're arguing with no one on that. I'd love him to stay, but I'm not going to cry if he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Who gives a fuck if he's shown no ambition, man? How exactly could he have shown ambition? He had the choice of staying at a club that didn't want him or moving to a lesser club. The big teams were never going to come in for him, this doesn't mean getting rid is somehow a stroke of genius. Some may take pleasure from watching Joey get relegated this season, but nothing positive has came out of this saga for NUFC. How can he bang on about ambition then go to whatever club offers him a silly contract? Shouldn't play the 'salt of the earth, mans man footballer' then act like all the twats he pretends he isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 also can't help but feel Ashley revels in pissing off the fanbase. Not saying it's his biggest priority, but more like an extra treat on top of reducing costs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Who gives a f*** if he's shown no ambition, man? How exactly could he have shown ambition? He had the choice of staying at a club that didn't want him or moving to a lesser club. The big teams were never going to come in for him, this doesn't mean getting rid is somehow a stroke of genius. Some may take pleasure from watching Joey get relegated this season, but nothing positive has came out of this saga for NUFC. Horseshit. He spouted all that crap on twitter about how he loves this club yet jumps ship at the first opportunity. Do people really think he wouldnt get as good/better opportunities this time next year if he stayed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Dave for fuck's sake fix the forum!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Seriously though, when people see Barton getting £80k a week for 3-years, and Nolan getting £55k a week for 5 years, can you: a) Blame the club for not matching. b) Blame the player for not turning it down. It depends. For one, I don't think it'd have taken £80k a week over three years to keep Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Dave for fuck's sake fix the forum!! Nowt wrong with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Who gives a f*** if he's shown no ambition, man? How exactly could he have shown ambition? He had the choice of staying at a club that didn't want him or moving to a lesser club. The big teams were never going to come in for him, this doesn't mean getting rid is somehow a stroke of genius. Some may take pleasure from watching Joey get relegated this season, but nothing positive has came out of this saga for NUFC. Horseshit. He spouted all that crap on twitter about how he loves this club yet jumps ship at the first opportunity. Do people really think he wouldnt get as good/better opportunities this time next year if he stayed? Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Dave for fuck's sake fix the forum!! Nowt wrong with it. What causes the double/triple posting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Seriously though, when people see Barton getting £80k a week for 3-years, and Nolan getting £55k a week for 5 years, can you: a) Blame the club for not matching. b) Blame the player for not turning it down. Barton wouldn't have even been offered that deal if we hadn't banished him from training and hawked him around and told all and sundry he could leave on a free. So the blame goes to the club for wanting rid of one of our best and most influential players. Honestly the same mugs keep falling for this shit each and every time - trying to scrutinise each deal in isolation to defend the indefensible, and totally missing the bigger picture and the pattern that has already been established. I said when others have been sold in the past that it would happen again and the above responses would be typed out. I was proven correct. I can also guarantee it will happen again next summer, only the names will be different "Can't blame the club, Colo is almost 31 and Sevilla/Valencia/Athletico Madrid are offering 60k a week for 4 years" Of course if they can go out and spend big money on a top, top player to replace him, it'll have been worth. But we all know that won't happen. They probably consider fucking Obertan to be his replacement. *throws up* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Dave for fuck's sake fix the forum!! Nowt wrong with it. What causes the double/triple posting? Dunno. Did you get a database error earlier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Lost all respect for Barton after this. After all that self-promoting bullshit about grandeurs of top 6 teams he signs for fucking QPR. Idiot. What you want him to do, just show up at Melwood every day hoping Dalglish takes pity and signs him? QPR is the only team in for him and like people of the regular working world he has a family to think about. He needs a secure future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Dave for fuck's sake fix the forum!! Nowt wrong with it. What causes the double/triple posting? Dunno. Did you get a database error earlier? Couple of problems connecting, never got the error come up. Just Stu and Nixon keep triple/double posting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Barton isn't exactly blameless is he? He is an intelligent lad so you can't argue he wouldn't have known his twitter rants wouldn't have had some sort of reaction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineBarrens Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 the money thing again ,i wonder how many 1st team players the club needed to sell to make some finally realize that it's not the player's fault that they leaving the club Even if every current squad member were to be sold and we were left with only Terry McDermott's fetus, Alan Smith and Graham Carr's sexually confused son, there would still be those avoiding blaming the two shitbags in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Dave for f***'s sake fix the forum!! Nowt wrong with it. What causes the double/triple posting? Dunno. Did you get a database error earlier? Couple of problems connecting, never got the error come up. Just Stu and Nixon keep triple/double posting. Definitely something up, I keep getting re-directed to NUFC blog, I think they may have been hacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Seriously though, when people see Barton getting £80k a week for 3-years, and Nolan getting £55k a week for 5 years, can you: a) Blame the club for not matching. Nope b) Blame the player for not turning it down. Nope Basically. And most of us don't fall for the bullshit from either side. Why's it necessarily "bullshit" in either instance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Seriously though, when people see Barton getting £80k a week for 3-years, and Nolan getting £55k a week for 5 years, can you: a) Blame the club for not matching. Nope b) Blame the player for not turning it down. Nope Basically. And most of us don't fall for the bullshit from either side. Yeah, I'm inclined to think that there's bullshit on both sides...in considerable quantities too. Still struggling to understand why folk can't just shrug it all off and deal with the realities of what has happened here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 the money thing again ,i wonder how many 1st team players the club needed to sell to make some finally realize that it's not the player's fault that they leaving the club Well none of the players leaving had to leave the club as they all had contracts which meant they could stay on on their current terms. So if they left then of course it was their own fucking fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 the money thing again ,i wonder how many 1st team players the club needed to sell to make some finally realize that it's not the player's fault that they leaving the club Well none of the players leaving had to leave the club as they all had contracts which meant they could stay on on their current terms. So if they left then of course it was their own fucking fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 the money thing again ,i wonder how many 1st team players the club needed to sell to make some finally realize that it's not the player's fault that they leaving the club Even if every current squad member were to be sold and we were left with only Terry McDermott's fetus, Alan Smith and Graham Carr's sexually confused son, there would still be those avoiding blaming the two shitbags in charge. Why would Barton join QPR if not for money? Their wildly ambitious signings that have made us "green with envy" © Mackems. The world class players they already have in their squad? World class manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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