Smal Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Joey's been my favourite NUFC player for a while now, but I think we should try and get rid of him and Enrique asap. Their attitudes are only going to rub off on others now, and I think we need to nip it in the bud. I don't even like the way Joey's playing style is going atm. Seems to be trying way too many Hollywood balls and losing possession in a Charlie Adam-esque manner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 what attitude is that exactly?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I don't disagree but 3 of the 4 haven't been given what a lot of fans can see the reason why they haven't been given it. We all know there are problems but I would guess they also know the fans know this and for various reasons it makes it easier to look like they are on the fans side and helps spite the board. I can see reasons why all 4 are pissed off and apart from 1 of the 4, they are good professionals or have been until now. The club has major problems and people who think banning twitter is going to change anything are kidding themselves. The players are not the root cause of these problems and they will not go away until people at the club look at players grievances instead of ignoring them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The club needs to ban all players on Twitter ASAP imo from the back of this. Thought you didn't care about football any more and were packing it in for cricket? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I don't think Barton would say that if there wasn't genuine unrest in the camp, added to the fact that Nolan, Enrique and Routledge have suggested or said similar things. This twitter thing must stop though, it's every week. All 4 have reasons to be a little bitter though? One saying it should send alarm bells though, when it gets to four it simply can't be a coincidence. I mean i don't think they are going into the training ground and kicking off with each other or anything like that, but i'd put money on there being a bit of an atmosphere. I don't think even what Barton has said suggests there 'being a bit of an atmosphere'. I can't see anything coincidental in that the 4 players showing disappointment are have had contractual disagreements or are being sold (despite wanting to stay). Look none of us have any evidence, we are all just speculating, so i won't pretend to know more than you but it's just a gut feeling. I just think we have an unhappy camp atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 what attitude is that exactly?? Not willing to commit to the club, leaving them to feel an increased freedom to criticise the club with impunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Why hasn't Pardew put a stop to all this regardless of the reasons? He's the manager and should be managing his players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I don't think Barton would say that if there wasn't genuine unrest in the camp, added to the fact that Nolan, Enrique and Routledge have suggested or said similar things. This twitter thing must stop though, it's every week. All 4 have reasons to be a little bitter though? One saying it should send alarm bells though, when it gets to four it simply can't be a coincidence. I mean i don't think they are going into the training ground and kicking off with each other or anything like that, but i'd put money on there being a bit of an atmosphere. I don't think even what Barton has said suggests there 'being a bit of an atmosphere'. I can't see anything coincidental in that the 4 players showing disappointment are have had contractual disagreements or are being sold (despite wanting to stay). Look none of us have any evidence, we are all just speculating, so i won't pretend to know more than you but it's just a gut feeling. I just think we have an unhappy camp atm. No problem, we'll just have to disagree which is fair enough. There have been a slew of interviews with various players on nutv that would suggest a very happy camp, though not one without the stresses of the tour etc. So overall, I just see the odd complaint as a pretty standard reaction to the uncertainty of pre-season, exaggerated by the instant opinions brought by twitter this time around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I don't think banning Twitter is the answer. Simpson wouldn't be very happy about it, and knowing Barton it would just make things worse because he loves 'having a voice' and stuff. Barton just needs to be told off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I'm sure there are some pissed off players, which is worrying, but fingers crossed it is isolated to the ones who have contract wrangles (Barton, Jose, and Routledge). What I don't understand is why that should affect them getting on with their jobs. They earn thousands a week, and are under contract. Why the hell do they need to moan about it to everyone (in public)? All he is doing is playing to the masses. Fair enough, we know the owner and chairman aren't well liked and are renowned for being difficult to work with, but how does it help anyone by going on Twitter and riling up a group of already disappointed fans? All he's succeeding in doing is letting every team and newspaper in the country know that there is a lack of harmony (whether it's isolated to a few players or not), and leaves the door wide open to criticism and speculation. That will obviously make everyone's job harder. It's difficult enough to put together a team to succeed in the premiership, and to buy good quality new players. This will just make it harder. Just get on with your job FFS. Sick to the back teeth of this now. Disclaimer: I don't doubt that there is a deeper issue to be resolved with the way MA and DL deal with the players (seemingly when they're due for new contracts), but this Twitter stuff is becoming a bigger problem IMO. There will be contract disputes at every club up and down the country right now, but we don't hear about them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 No good can come of public displays of aggro which may or may not represent the views of an entire squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Why hasn't Pardew put a stop to all this regardless of the reasons? He's the manager and should be managing his players. Not traveled home on team bus according to Steve Wraith. (I know, I know, its twitter bollox!) Barton hasn't either by all accounts. Why would he be tweeting Danny Simpson if they were on the same bus home. (Doesn't mean that they've fallen out though but it does seem a bit odd!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I'm sure there are some p*ssed off players, which is worrying, but fingers crossed it is isolated to the ones who have contract wrangles (Barton, Jose, and Routledge). What I don't understand is why that should affect them getting on with their jobs. They earn thousands a week, and are under contract. Why the hell do they need to moan about it to everyone (in public)? All he is doing is playing to the masses. Fair enough, we know the owner and chairman aren't well liked and are renowned for being difficult to work with, but how does it help anyone by going on Twitter and riling up a group of already disappointed fans? All he's succeeding in doing is letting every team and newspaper in the country know that there is a lack of harmony (whether it's isolated to a few players or not), and leaves the door wide open to criticism and speculation. That will obviously make everyone's job harder. It's difficult enough to put together a team to succeed in the premiership, and to buy good quality new players. This will just make it harder. Just get on with your job FFS. Sick to the back teeth of this now. Disclaimer: I don't doubt that there is a deeper issue to be resolved with the way MA and DL deal with the players (seemingly when they're due for new contracts), but this Twitter stuff is becoming a bigger problem IMO. There will be contract disputes at every club up and down the country right now, but we don't hear about them. Why thank you! No worries sugar x Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Looks like Simpson had enough, kindly telling Barton to shut the hell up in a round about way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Agreed with the last sentence, but it is 100% wrong for it to be splashed across Twitter from our own players like this. The players seem to think they need to splash is across twitter and they are the ones who feel hard done by for some reason. The problems they have with the club should be sorted inside the club and they clearly aren't. 3 of the players are complaining that the club are or have been bullshitting them, they are either saying it or as good as doing so by backing up what others are saying. If the club want this to stop then they need to talk to the players and sort things out, banning twitter doesn't solve any problems, it just hides them. It does nobody any good while we have players who are pissed off. Moving the players on just allows the problems within the squad to remain as they are, at best. Or allows the problems to grow and grow which will not end well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The whole of Twitter needs to be shover up Luke Edward's orifice. Either that or we need to stop listen to his s****. Used to think he was alright, but since his move back down south he's become a complete utter t***. He is still based locally = just switched to the Telelgraph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Hasn't Steve Wraith already said something that was later to be proven bollocks, if Barton is on twitter I don't see why Simpson wouldn't respond even if they were sitting on each others lap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Hasn't Steve Wraith already said something that was later to be proven bollocks, if Barton is on twitter I don't see why Simpson wouldn't respond even if they were sitting on each others lap. He is a massive attention seeking cock.......i hate when he's rolled out on the TV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It plays into the boards hands too. 'We were about to buy Messi for £130m but he saw there was unrest so changed his mind.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Hasn't Steve Wraith already said something that was later to be proven bollocks, if Barton is on twitter I don't see why Simpson wouldn't respond even if they were sitting on each others lap. He is a massive attention seeking cock.......i hate when he's rolled out on the TV. He always is 2nd guessing people's thoughts and that every player at NUFC is friends with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Why hasn't Pardew put a stop to all this regardless of the reasons? He's the manager and should be managing his players. Not traveled home on team bus according to Steve Wraith. (I know, I know, its twitter bollox!) Barton hasn't either by all accounts. Why would he be tweeting Danny Simpson if they were on the same bus home. (Doesn't mean that they've fallen out though but it does seem a bit odd!) I don't think they were tweeting each other till they'd have been back in Newcastle tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I agree entirely. I just think that we need to have some ground rules in place for Twitter etc. You don't see other clubs players spouting unsavoury stuff about their employers, and I'm sure we aren't the only club in the country to have a few p*ssed off players. I agree they need rules but the players are clearly not bothered as they must know they'll possibly get fined for tweeting the kind of things which they are tweeting. I can't see how the club could legally stop them from using twitter, all they can do is fine them and that isn't doing anybody and good. It's the management at the club trying to surpress bad news instead of putting things right. Like I said, the only way to stop this is to sort the problems out. I would much rather that this wasn't happening but I would rather that was the case because we didn't have problems, not because things are getting hidden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Hasn't Steve Wraith already said something that was later to be proven bollocks, if Barton is on twitter I don't see why Simpson wouldn't respond even if they were sitting on each others lap. Also the players who played today get the next day off, as is the way with most clubs, Barton maybe off to see his Mum, could be his girlfriends family, could be any numbers of things, Wraith is just the type of mudslinging rumour munger that the papers love, shithead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Agreed with the last sentence, but it is 100% wrong for it to be splashed across Twitter from our own players like this. The players seem to think they need to splash is across twitter and they are the ones who feel hard done by for some reason. The problems they have with the club should be sorted inside the club and they clearly aren't. 3 of the players are complaining that the club are or have been bullshitting them, they are either saying it or as good as doing so by backing up what others are saying. If the club want this to stop then they need to talk to the players and sort things out, banning twitter doesn't solve any problems, it just hides them. It does nobody any good while we have players who are p*ssed off. Moving the players on just allows the problems within the squad to remain as they are, at best. Or allows the problems to grow and grow which will not end well. Agree. The regime needs to sort out the issues because as you say moving players out won't solve the problem - the remaining players will probably end up even more dissatisfied. This was where Nolan came into his own - holding it all together - not sure who will be doing that now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Hasn't Steve Wraith already said something that was later to be proven bollocks, if Barton is on twitter I don't see why Simpson wouldn't respond even if they were sitting on each others lap. He is a massive attention seeking cock.......i hate when he's rolled out on the TV. He always is 2nd guessing people's thoughts and that every player at NUFC is friends with him. I have never seen him say anything positive about us either, doomsayer that bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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