Joey Barton (now retired)

[STM]

Do you know what, as well as he played last season and as good as he is and as much as this team needs a player of his ability in, the way I look at his departure is this: One less cretin associated with my club. I'm sick and tired of the modern footballer and the modern game, you can keep the lot of it as far as I'm concerned. Looking at our squad there are a few players I admire ability wise but as people, to me they are all absolute parasites in one form or another who were any to leave like Barton, I just wouldn't care. As for the complete and utter fuck ups running our club and the puppet 'manager', they too can go and fuck themselves. Me, I car about that badge that reads Newcastle United and what it stands for and that only. Good riddance Barton. Ashley, Llambiase and Pardew your departures will come. As for the likes of Jose you too can fuck off. Mind, I wouldn't blame any player for wanting out. But please be fucking man about it, be honest, be genuine, cut the bull and politics. That's what pisses me off the hullabaloo of it all.

 

Barton's the total opposite of the 'modern footballer.'

 

The fact he's a cunt suggests he is not.

[taxfree]

Barton was a good player for us but in the grande scheme of things he's quite average and limited in the same way Nolan is/was despite him being the top goalscoring midfielder in the country last season.

 

He's not average.

[STM]

Barton was a good player for us but in the grande scheme of things he's quite average and limited in the same way Nolan is/was despite him being the top goalscoring midfielder in the country last season.

 

I agree with your sentiments regarding the modern game, i said something similar in the SBR thread.

[Guest]

Fair play to him if he ends up North London.

 

Fair's probably not the best term for it. If he wanted to go there he could just as easily have handed in a transfer request rather than opening a twitter account to spread s**** and lower the fee for the club that's tapping him up.

 

Care to explain why, if he was so desperate to go as is claimed, there was any need for the Twitter bollocks (or a transfer request), when the club were trying to sell him anyway?

 

I've asked this about 10 times in this thread and still not had a decent answer.

  If we were so eager to sell, why we letting him go for free?

[Dr Venkman]

Fair play to him if he ends up North London.

 

Fair's probably not the best term for it. If he wanted to go there he could just as easily have handed in a transfer request rather than opening a twitter account to spread shite and lower the fee for the club that's tapping him up.

 

and if we wanted to keep him we could've given him a fair contract this summer. we dont want to keep him because we dont want to pay what he's worth as a footballer, again.

 

At the moment it looks like no one else wants to pay him what he's worth either unless they get him on a free. If he's all that you would have thought these mega clubs would have stumped up the odd million or so it would have took to buy him rather than resort to getting him to play up and reduce the fee to nowt.

 

Tron, why do you always need your mind made up for you on a player depending on which club they sign for?

 

I can make up my own mind and Barton wide right is absolute quality.

 

By your logic, all our players are automatically shit by virtue of playing for us.

 

My view on Barton is the same as it's always been. He's a decent player for a mid table premier team. I'd be happy for him to be here in the right circumstances but I don't think he needs a contract for life to stay here. He wasn't so great in central midfield and if we lose him out wide we have an option to bring in someone with a bit more pace. These players aren't superstars, they are decent at best. The real issue is whether we will actually replace them, and that's where I have my doubts.

 

so we have an option to bring in someone better if we lose him, but you doubt we will?

 

in that case is it a good idea to make him available for free?

[Dr Venkman]

Fair play to him if he ends up North London.

 

Fair's probably not the best term for it. If he wanted to go there he could just as easily have handed in a transfer request rather than opening a twitter account to spread s**** and lower the fee for the club that's tapping him up.

 

Care to explain why, if he was so desperate to go as is claimed, there was any need for the Twitter bollocks (or a transfer request), when the club were trying to sell him anyway?

 

I've asked this about 10 times in this thread and still not had a decent answer.

  If we were so eager to sell, why we letting him go for free?

 

to get him off the wage bill? just as golfmag predicted?

[JH]

Fair play to him if he ends up North London.

 

Fair's probably not the best term for it. If he wanted to go there he could just as easily have handed in a transfer request rather than opening a twitter account to spread s**** and lower the fee for the club that's tapping him up.

 

Care to explain why, if he was so desperate to go as is claimed, there was any need for the Twitter bollocks (or a transfer request), when the club were trying to sell him anyway?

 

I've asked this about 10 times in this thread and still not had a decent answer.

  If we were so eager to sell, why we letting him go for free?

 

As "punishment" for the Twitter stuff presumably. They want rid ASAP.

 

FM-tastic style.

[TRon]

Fair play to him if he ends up North London.

 

Fair's probably not the best term for it. If he wanted to go there he could just as easily have handed in a transfer request rather than opening a twitter account to spread s**** and lower the fee for the club that's tapping him up.

 

Care to explain why, if he was so desperate to go as is claimed, there was any need for the Twitter bollocks (or a transfer request), when the club were trying to sell him anyway?

 

I've asked this about 10 times in this thread and still not had a decent answer.

 

What do you expect the club to do if his contract isn't going to be renewed? Try to give him away for free? He still had a year left by the way, Pardew seemed more than happy for him to stay and play on, and Ashley was reportedly okay with players seeing their final year out. Obviously he'd prefer to sell but the player doesn't have to leave if he doesn't want to.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Barton was a good player for us but in the grande scheme of things he's quite average and limited in the same way Nolan is/was despite him being the top goalscoring midfielder in the country last season.

 

He's not average.

 

Of course he is. He has no pace, lacks stamina and doesn't score many goals. He's a decent set piece taker and has good passing skills but in general he's a very limited player. He was performing well in a side that was at times perfect for him.

[Skirge]

leeangus29 angus

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[Wullie]

Comparing footballers to your, or anyone else's, own employment is totally and utterly pointless.

[Dr Venkman]

Barton was a good player for us but in the grande scheme of things he's quite average and limited in the same way Nolan is/was despite him being the top goalscoring midfielder in the country last season.

 

He's not average.

 

Of course he is. He has no pace, lacks stamina and doesn't score many goals. He's a decent set piece taker and has good passing skills but in general he's a very limited player. He was performing well in a side that was at times perfect for him.

 

so was kevin nolan, shame we cashed in on the guy that made these two look good.

[Guest cr4igora]

f*** me, are you genuinely trying to suggest Barton isn't a good footballer?

 

No, not at all. But I think he is overrated by some fans (and by himself) and his behaviour off the field is questionable at the very very least.

[Hanshithispantz]

Does it really need to be explained why you should make more of an effort to keep onside one of your best players than one that's surplus to requirements? I give up.

 

So we ignore Barton's behaviour the past couple of months?

He's made a few twitter posts man, yes we should just ignore it. We certainly shouldn't f*** with the clubs future and just give the bloke away for free

 

Would your boss ignore it. Regardless of the fact its professional football I know my employers would look dimly on me if I slagged them off in a public domain.

 

My old company withdrew a job offer of an employee because of his negative comments against the company on a message board. Another employee was put on a final warning for critising a business decision made by the directors.buod[ /quote]

 

 

 

With all due respect, I doubt it would be a great loss to the company if they were to lay you off (I dont know what you do so im just speculating). Barton is our best right midfielder, and to be fair, we need him next season. "cut your nose off to spite your face" comes to mind, it would be f***ing idiotic to let him go.

[BlueStar]

If we're justifying getting rid of him because he's a cunt we probably should have done it when he was going to jail for drunken brawls rather than after he's not touched a drink for years and sits around posting Nietzsche quotes and the occasional moan about the way the club is run on twitter.

[TRon]

Barton was a good player for us but in the grande scheme of things he's quite average and limited in the same way Nolan is/was despite him being the top goalscoring midfielder in the country last season.

 

He's not average.

 

Of course he is. He has no pace, lacks stamina and doesn't score many goals. He's a decent set piece taker and has good passing skills but in general he's a very limited player. He was performing well in a side that was at times perfect for him.

 

This is what I have said many times here. Not a popular opinion but that's not a surprise.

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

f*** me, are you genuinely trying to suggest Barton isn't a good footballer?

 

No, not at all. But I think he is overrated by some fans.

 

And by himself.

 

I was interested to see how he'd perform this season without Carroll to aim his angled 40 yard balls to at the back post.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Barton was a good player for us but in the grande scheme of things he's quite average and limited in the same way Nolan is/was despite him being the top goalscoring midfielder in the country last season.

 

He's not average.

 

Of course he is. He has no pace, lacks stamina and doesn't score many goals. He's a decent set piece taker and has good passing skills but in general he's a very limited player. He was performing well in a side that was at times perfect for him.

 

At what he does he is quality, but his overall game isn't top class. For us he was a very good player though (for a while), and I'm still sorry to see it pan out like this.

[Guest bimpy474]

leeangus29 angus

by nufcfans

BARTON'S AGENT TALKING on 5 LIVE! Barton was offered a 3 yr contract but wanted a 4 yr deal @nufcfans #nufc

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But he said on Talksport Joey wasn't offered a contract at all.

[Fugazi]

If we're justifying getting rid of him because he's a cunt we probably should have done it when he was going to jail for drunken brawls rather than after he's not touched a drink for years and sits around posting Nietzsche quotes and the occasional moan about the way the club is run on twitter.

 

...whilst listening to The Smiths.

[Happy Face]

Fair play to him if he ends up North London.

 

Fair's probably not the best term for it. If he wanted to go there he could just as easily have handed in a transfer request rather than opening a twitter account to spread s**** and lower the fee for the club that's tapping him up.

 

Care to explain why, if he was so desperate to go as is claimed, there was any need for the Twitter bollocks (or a transfer request), when the club were trying to sell him anyway?

 

I've asked this about 10 times in this thread and still not had a decent answer.

  If we were so eager to sell, why we letting him go for free?

 

Barton has made it clear he would not be sold at any price.  He wanted to see out his contract or go for nothing.  I believe it was a matter of principal following the manner of Carroll's departure, whereby the pushed him into the corner of a transfer request (which I think he was a twat for submitting).

 

The club therefore had a player who they would be forced to spend another £3m in wages on and who guaranteed a zero return.  As with EVERY decision made at the club, this one was made to save money.  Ashley's view is £3m is worth more than 30 odd appearances over the season from JB.

 

 

[Punk77]

Agents are fucking cretins and are not credible sources..Their profession is based on spreading lies and false information.

[TRon]

leeangus29 angus

by nufcfans

BARTON'S AGENT TALKING on 5 LIVE! Barton was offered a 3 yr contract but wanted a 4 yr deal @nufcfans #nufc

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But he said on Talksport Joey wasn't offered a contract at all.

 

Ashley and Derek are the only liars as has been proven. Willie McKay is a veritable angel from heaven whose words are nuggets of truth blessed from above.

[Mr. Snrub]

Interestingly the comments made above totally ignored the other points I made...

 

...gobs off all day long on Twitter, disputes the managers decisions. Previously convicted of behaviour such as stabbing cigars in teammates eyes & punching people on the training ground.

 

The cigar incident is inexcusable, but I think it's quite petty to bring up his previous misdemeanors tbh, especially when he's taken serious steps to turn his life around by giving up the drink.  Re: Dabo, he hit Barton first, from behind at that.  You can't throw a cheap punch and not expect to get hit back.

[taxfree]

Barton was a good player for us but in the grande scheme of things he's quite average and limited in the same way Nolan is/was despite him being the top goalscoring midfielder in the country last season.

 

He's not average.

 

Of course he is. He has no pace, lacks stamina and doesn't score many goals. He's a decent set piece taker and has good passing skills but in general he's a very limited player. He was performing well in a side that was at times perfect for him.

 

What he lacks in pace he make up in determination, grit and hard work. He's the type of player (almost) every team would be glad to have in the line up. He showed in plenty matches how important he was for us just because of those qualities. On top of that he has a great right leg. Both when it comes to passing and crossing.