Beezeri Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Started badly but improved a lot as the game progressed. Clearly had a mental issue to start against such a big team and ahead of HBA when the Frenchman was fit but dealt with it pretty nicely. At start looked very slow to react and was afraid to use his strenghts but is't that the case with every young player. Pards just has to go through this phase with Haris and I think he actually did better than Ben Arfa and our game died after the sub but I guess it was more down to Liverpool improving. Take Obertan(are someone still taking about Jonas' lack of final product?) out of the starting XI and replace him with HBA and keep Haris there as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Average at best at the moment His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Average at best at the moment His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian Doesn't help. Do people agree with me that speed is important for any second striker? Which is why I'm hoping he will turn into an iniesta type player on the left of a midfield 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezeri Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Average at best at the moment His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian Doesn't help. Do people agree with me that speed is important for any second striker? Which is why I'm hoping he will turn into an iniesta type player on the left of a midfield 3 There are a few more important things for a second striker than speed I guess. How about passing, vision, creativity, dribbling just couple to mention? Doesn't some Jari Litmanen ring any bells? Always one of the slowest players on the pitch but the rest of his abilities made him one of the best players in world in his time! Maybe pace is more important in English football but it's not totally necessary to have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Looked really nervous, every time he got the ball he seemed to panic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 It's a shame that he and Sammy are needed as back-up for the first team and I think both could really do with a couple of months on loan in Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Average at best at the moment His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian Doesn't help. Do people agree with me that speed is important for any second striker? Which is why I'm hoping he will turn into an iniesta type player on the left of a midfield 3 Centre mid definitely looks like his position, either as a playmaker or attacking midfielder. A second striker maybe doesn't have to be blindingly quick, but Vuckic is very slow and struggled to get away from challenges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 United boss has growing admiration for Haris Vuckic by Lee Ryder, Evening ChronicleDec 31 2011Comments (13) Recommend (3) ALAN PARDEW expects Haris Vuckic to continue to grow in stature after handing the Slovenian his second start on the first-team stage with Newcastle United. Vuckic played his part in United’s first goal at Anfield in seven years when charging down the ball with his face for the opening goal of the game. Pardew – notably – gave Vuckic the nod ahead of Hatem Ben Arfa, who had been expected to get a start after his heroics at Bolton Wanderers on Boxing Day. Reflecting on Vuckic’s performance, Pardew told the Chronicle: “I thought Haris grew into the game. “You’d expect that. It is at Anfield, and Liverpool have some great players, but we went toe-to-toe with them. “Hatem was always going to be first choice to come on, but the game had perhaps gone away by then.” Pardew, however, had to concede that Steven Gerrard changed the game. He added: “He is a world-class player, and 20 minutes of Steven Gerrard can affect any game. “Having said that, I still think there were periods when he was on the pitch when we did very well, but the goal changed that.” One bonus for Pardew was that Cheick Tiote and Fabricio Coloccini managed to reach the end of the year without a caution, with the disciplinary slate now wiped clean. He said: “They were very professional. You couldn’t say Cheick pulled out of anything. He was in the midst of everything, but he didn’t get booked.” Tiote feels Wednesday’s game with Man United will be his last before African Cup of Nations duty calls. However, Pardew is still hoping to include him in his side for the FA Cup tie with Blackburn. He added: “Hopefully, we will have Cheick and Demba Ba for January 7.” Manchester City are still fighting to retain Yaya and Koulo Toure until January 15. Pardew will ask for the same treatment should they be successful. He said: “We’re watching all of that. If Yaya Toure doesn’t go until later in the month, why should Cheick go? We are all in the same boat.” Pardew confirmed he substituted full-back Ryan Taylor as a precaution, the Scouser having picked up a booking. Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/12/31/united-boss-has-growing-admiration-for-haris-vuckic-72703-30037666/2/#ixzz1i834JHC8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Average at best at the moment His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian Riquelme says Hi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Average at best at the moment His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian Riquelme says Hi. totally. his lack of pace would be easily compensated for by intelligent movement and vision. (both things sadly lacking from our entire team at the moment) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Once he got more confident he started creating a bit more space for himself with some clever turns and touches. Once he's fully confident and got more experience his pace won't be such a big issue, as Nixon and madras have pointed out as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 It's statements like S2B's that heighten this theory that Newcastle fans give players an early litmus test. He's had two first team games this season, one where he was a threat, one where he was subdued. I've seen enough to think he has potential, and I'd like to see him given more chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 It's statements like S2B's that heighten this theory that Newcastle fans give players an early litmus test. He's had two first team games this season, one where he was a threat, one where he was subdued. I've seen enough to think he has potential, and I'd like to see him given more chances. what position out of curiosity ? i've only seen his first team games and don't think he has enough to play central midfield or off a forward, still he's yopung and plenty time left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 It's statements like S2B's that heighten this theory that Newcastle fans give players an early litmus test. He's had two first team games this season, one where he was a threat, one where he was subdued. I've seen enough to think he has potential, and I'd like to see him given more chances. he said "at the moment" to be fair. he's clearly got potential, i just wish we were able to send him on loan for a bit to let him get experience and make mistakes for someone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Average at best at the moment His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian Riquelme says Hi. Embarassing comparison Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership. He is very laboured Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Average at best at the moment His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian Riquelme says Hi. Embarassing comparison Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership. He is very laboured now that IS daft Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 It's statements like S2B's that heighten this theory that Newcastle fans give players an early litmus test. He's had two first team games this season, one where he was a threat, one where he was subdued. I've seen enough to think he has potential, and I'd like to see him given more chances. what position out of curiosity ? i've only seen his first team games and don't think he has enough to play central midfield or off a forward, still he's yopung and plenty time left. I think he works best in a 3 man midfield, next to Cabaye and infront of Tiote. Ok he isn't blessed with rapid pace, but his technique isn't in question, his shots against West Brom looked quite dangerous in fact. His only problem is a lack of movement from Obertan/Jonas. Ba is doing all he can and has made some great runs, but neither winger seems to run in behind the fullback. Meaning that they're not getting that chance to play more direct passes. I'd be curious to see Ben Arfa out wide and se what happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Average at best at the moment His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian Riquelme says Hi. Embarassing comparison Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership. He is very laboured now that IS daft He will not be playing premiership football in the next 2 years, guaranteed His size is the reason he is getting a game at the moment, but it will soon become apparant he is not good enough and that he is too pedestrian. What Riquelme lacked in pace he had in brain speed and he had that in abundance He may score a couple of worldies but his overall play will not be enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Average at best at the moment His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian Riquelme says Hi. Embarassing comparison Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership. He is very laboured now that IS daft He will not be playing premiership football in the next 2 years, guaranteed He will be but not for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 He's a year or two away from Championship football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 System yesterday didn't help him, had few touches of the ball (likewise Ben Arfa when he came on) due to our poor distribution from the back and lack of support out wide. Think it's far far too early to write him off, I still have very high hopes for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Good for folk to rule him out for the next few seasons after 2 starts If I was put on the pitch infront of 52,000 folk I'd shit me kegs and start crying. He's doing remarkably well for a 19 year old and has had a few good moments too. Give him a few more starts to settle in and we'll see a great player come out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 His ball retention is very good for someone of his age. He's also remarkably strong too, the more I see of Vuckic the more I think he'll be a success here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 He really should have been sent on loan last season (I know he was injured for parts of it) plus he should have got more minutes in the Championship The system yesterday did not suit him especially since we just lumped it long. Also it would help if our wingers offered a threat going forward, that would open up the space for Vuckic or whoever plays in that position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Average at best at the moment His huge flaw is his complete lack of pace! He is pedestrian Riquelme says Hi. Embarassing comparison Vuckic is a good year or two away from first team action and even then it wont be premiership. He is very laboured now that IS daft He will not be playing premiership football in the next 2 years, guaranteed His size is the reason he is getting a game at the moment, but it will soon become apparant he is not good enough and that he is too pedestrian. What Riquelme lacked in pace he had in brain speed and he had that in abundance He may score a couple of worldies but his overall play will not be enough Absolute shite. Superb last minute entry for worst post of the year though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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