Yorkie Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Is there some form of climax to that sentence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Is there some form of climax to that sentence? Think hes saying he doesnt have good technique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Barton's reputation is to be a box-to-box midfielder but in reality he was blowing out of his arse after 50minutes Yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Chronicle reckon Carroll will still be missing for Blackpool, touch and go but will probably be kept back for Plymouth match on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Is there some form of climax to that sentence? Think hes saying he doesnt have good technique. I really don't know why - i want him to back it up. I've seen nothing to suggest from Carroll other than that he's good with the ball at his feet. For instance the Reading game, just after half-time, when he received the ball with his back to goal and up against a couple of defenders... Shola made a run, Carroll trapped it, then lobbed it over the encroaching defenders for Ameobi to perfectly run onto it and nearly score. Then obviously there's the assist against Sheff Wed which shows we may have a striker than can actually knock the ball on with his head. He's worked very well with a second striker every time i've seen him this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Harper Simpson Taylor Coloccini Enrique R Taylor Guthrie Barton Lovenkrands Carroll Ranger I know you can say Lovenkrands is wasted out on the wing, but Barton is even more wasteded on the left. And having Butt simply anywhere in the side makes our whole club virtually wastededed. Plus, there's goals in that team. Carroll and Ranger can both hold up the ball and have genuinely good technique with the ball at their feet - so they can bring our centre-mids into the game, and Barton and Guthrie are our best 'box-to-box' players, so you'd expect them to find some outlet to shoot. And it would allow one of the strikers to actually pose some form of attacking threat, which simply doesn't happen whenever we play 4-5-1. Unfortunately, he's bound to pack the midfield again to accommodate Nolan and Butt and we'll probably plod our way to a 1-1 or a 1-0. Sticking two big men up front means relying on R.Taylor and Lovenkrands getting down the flanks and putting crosses in and they are both playing out of position there. If your gameplan is launching long balls to Carroll and Ranger to hold it up then we're playing long ball and I suspect that's playing into Blackpool's hands. A little and large partnership of Carroll/Ranger alongside Lovenkrands would pose a greater threat to the Blackpool back line IMO, a simple combination of power and pace up front that has served so many clubs. In the absence of much alternative, it's the route I'd go down. We'd have a pretty static midfield and would have to rely on passing through the midfield but I reckon we have the players to do that against Blackpool, it's up front where we need to hurt them and Carroll alongside Ranger doesn't look very dangerous to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Fair points, but i think we've shown on more than one occassion in this league that two big men upfront - providing they have some form of footballing ability - can throw defenders off guard and pose lots of problems. Jonas and Ryan Taylor were hardly pumping many crosses into the box v Reading and Sheff Wed (who are both, imo, better than Blackpool). I take your point but i honestly think it's pointless either, A: putting Barton on the wing, B: having Butt anywhere in the team. Maybe keep that line-up but swap Nolan in for one of Carroll/Ranger. We really need Jonas back fairly sharpish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I sincerely hope we dont have to see Ranger and Carroll up front for a long while Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Ranger is only playing the target man role at the moment because he has to in a 4-5-1. With Carroll back he came switch back to his (normal?) style of getting in behind defenders, after Carroll's flick on's, and scoring goals. Remember as well, despite what England think when Crouch plays, you don't have to play long balls just because you're strikers are tall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I sincerely hope we dont have to see Ranger and Carroll up front for a long while I'd actually like to see them given a go, it would be novel for defenders not to be able to just double team the single striker... they would have their hands full IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 we now need to go out and give one of these inferior teams the arse shagging of thier lives, and give the rest of the shite something to really think about,... 0-6.!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I think we will quietly go about beating the average to shite teams by the odd goal all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 With Carroll out I think it could be: ---------------------Harper-------------------- Simpson---Taylor------Colo------Enrique R.Taylor---Butt--------Guthrie---Lovenkrands -------------------Nolan------------------------ -----------------Ranger--------------------- Thats if Lovenkrands is fit enough to last 60-70 minutes. I'd prefer Lovenkrands alonside Ranger with Nolan further back than he has been playing. Although he is our best midfielder and I would play him because of injuries, I would have seriously considered dropping Barton to give him a kick up the arse. I think Hughton might drop him anyway though, unless he goes for the easy option and drops Guthrie. Butt will start although he shouldn't be anywhere near the team with other players fit and better than him in his position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Do we still need to go through the weekly "this will be a tough game" routine, or can we now say that we'll probably roll over most teams? I'm uneasy with being too confident, but surely we should beat Blackpool fairly easily? I think we should stick to the default pessimism mode for a few more weeks. I honestly do think this will be a tough one. Blackpool have a good record at home and unlike the previous opponents these are a different sort of opponent. All the teams we've played so far have been past PL clubs, with the exception of Cardiff (but they have only very recently been to a Cup final). So they probably didn't get the sense of this is there seasons cup final when they played us. Blackpool will, they'll be well up for this one. It's also a much smaller ground than we've played on so far. It's another test for the lads and a different one, if we can come away from it with another win then we'll be well set for the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Realistically this is the team Hughton will pick. Harper Simpson Taylor Coloccini Enrique R.Taylor Guthrie Butt Barton Nolan Ranger It won't be anything else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Am I the only one who'd put Geremi in the midfield ahead of Butt? R Taylor Guthrie Barton Geremi Nolan Lovenkrands Anyone defending Nicky Butt's selection needs a f***ing slap, he makes the team worse just by being on the pitch Whats the point of arguing it? Hughton will pick Butt regardless of how much more you know about football than him, choosing different on here isnt going to change that so why slate people for being realistic? What's this based on by the way? He could have easily started him on Sunday if he'd wanted to. I don't think he'll play when the others are fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Am I the only one who'd put Geremi in the midfield ahead of Butt? R Taylor Guthrie Barton Geremi Nolan Lovenkrands Anyone defending Nicky Butt's selection needs a f***ing slap, he makes the team worse just by being on the pitch Whats the point of arguing it? Hughton will pick Butt regardless of how much more you know about football than him, choosing different on here isnt going to change that so why slate people for being realistic? What's this based on by the way? He could have easily started him on Sunday if he'd wanted to. I don't think he'll play when the others are fit. Smith's out. Which means technically we could have a great midfield without Butt, but Smith's our Captain in Butt's absence, so naturally Butt'll come back in to provide 'leadership'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Am I the only one who'd put Geremi in the midfield ahead of Butt? R Taylor Guthrie Barton Geremi Nolan Lovenkrands Anyone defending Nicky Butt's selection needs a f***ing slap, he makes the team worse just by being on the pitch Whats the point of arguing it? Hughton will pick Butt regardless of how much more you know about football than him, choosing different on here isnt going to change that so why slate people for being realistic? What's this based on by the way? He could have easily started him on Sunday if he'd wanted to. I don't think he'll play when the others are fit. Smith's out. Which means technically we could have a great midfield without Butt, but Smith's our Captain in Butt's absence, so naturally Butt'll come back in to provide 'leadership'. Not that this has anything to do with it but didn't Butt say in an interview that he'd hope this season would see him used more sparingly because playing every week was doing him in. He's shite like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 If he came in for one match only, and then was left out when Smith's back, it's not the end of the world if someone else was given a match off with the number of games we have coming up. We should win on Wednesday easily with or without Butt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I see the stand they've given us is uncovered. Take your brollies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I'm quite nervous about this, if we win I will be surprised and absolutely delighted. I can see us giving Plymouth a hiding on Saturday regardless of what happens on Wednesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I see the stand they've given us is uncovered. Take your brollies. Aye am expecting to get soaked. Plus theres the fact tickets are unreserved, guaranteed mayhem tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I see the stand they've given us is uncovered. Take your brollies. Aye am expecting to get soaked. Plus theres the fact tickets are unreserved, guaranteed mayhem tbh No need guys - it's glorious weather in the North West and it'll be fine tomorrow night too. Might be worthwhile wearing your thermals though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Wow games thick and fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I see the stand they've given us is uncovered. Take your brollies. Aye am expecting to get soaked. Plus theres the fact tickets are unreserved, guaranteed mayhem tbh No need guys - it's glorious weather in the North West and it'll be fine tomorrow night too. Might be worthwhile wearing your thermals though. Geordie thermals = T Shirt tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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