cp40 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 10 changes from previous game. Did Mccarthy decide he couldnt win with his best side, and so rest them for other games he believes they can win. If this is the case, what does it say about the league. Are teams now disregarding the fixtures against the so called big 4, and then concentrate on the clubs they see as thiewr direct rivals. whats the point in being in the same division? Are the Top clubs really so far ahead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Here's hoping they go down on the last day of the season with one of their rivals beating an under-strength top team resting players for a Champions League Final or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Here's hoping they go down on the last day of the season with one of their rivals beating an under-strength top team resting players for a Champions League Final or whatever. Merson was just saying something similar on SSN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Section E, rule 20 says: "In every league match each participating club shall field a full strength team." Pretty hard to enforce that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Section E, rule 20 says: "In every league match each participating club shall field a full strength team." Pretty hard to enforce that though. If that's the case Arsenal should have been kicked out years ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Section E, rule 20 says: "In every league match each participating club shall field a full strength team." Pretty hard to enforce that though. Harder to enforce with the "big" teams as their reserves are still better than most of the rest of the league. With teams like Wolves though, it's very much obvious they didn't field a team with the intent to win the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 from mick mc carthy's point of view, i can see why he did it, for a team like wolves premiership survival is the whole aim. highly unlikely they were going to get anything at OT and with a game against burnley at the weekend, 3 points there is imperative. its not what id like to see, teams effectively resigning to defeat but with the money of the premier league, its always going to happen. Man United are absolutely miles ahead of wolves, and wolves are desperate just to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 It certainly isn't right, but tbf to Mick McCarthy he's not the first manager to do it and he certainly won't be the last. Some pundits barely bat an eyelid when one of the 'big four' do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 If the bottom 8 or so teams all took that attitude then what is the point in them being in the Premier League. Resting one or two is OK but to change 10 after a good win at Spurs when Man Utd are currently more vulnerable than usual is riduculous. They are fortunate to have only been beaten 3-0 but goal difference could come into it and a stronger team might have lost by less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 When they get round to acting on Man Utd(v West Ham) and Liverpool(v Fulham) leaving both teams to survive relegation at Shef Utd's expense they can start complaining imo. End of the day they were highly unlikely to get anything at OT so protecting players against injury/suspension in such a game especially after a very welcome surprise at Spurs is a good plan(although against the spirit of the game) Of course if they dont beat Burnley at home then its arguably a wasted exercise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brummiemag Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 10 changes from previous game. Did Mccarthy decide he couldnt win with his best side, and so rest them for other games he believes they can win. If this is the case, what does it say about the league. Are teams now disregarding the fixtures against the so called big 4, and then concentrate on the clubs they see as thiewr direct rivals. whats the point in being in the same division? Are the Top clubs really so far ahead? Another disturbing development and another really sad day for football as finance and premiership survival become the be all and end all. Its bad enough playing under strength teams in the cup competitions and now this. You have to ask what is the point of bothering at all when it comes to this. The whole point of playing in the top division and one of the highlights is when you go to places like Old Trafford and play against and test yourself against the top teams - thats what football is all about. An absolute disgrace and the Wolves fans I know who went up last night (3,000 of them went up) are really angry about it. No wonder they were singing ' We want our money back' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 When they get round to acting on Man Utd(v West Ham) and Liverpool(v Fulham) leaving both teams to survive relegation at Shef Utd's expense they can start complaining imo. End of the day they were highly unlikely to get anything at OT so protecting players against injury/suspension in such a game especially after a very welcome surprise at Spurs is a good plan(although against the spirit of the game) Of course if they dont beat Burnley at home then its arguably a wasted exercise Manchester United also did it at Hull on that horrible day last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 10 changes from previous game. Did Mccarthy decide he couldnt win with his best side, and so rest them for other games he believes they can win. If this is the case, what does it say about the league. Are teams now disregarding the fixtures against the so called big 4, and then concentrate on the clubs they see as thiewr direct rivals. whats the point in being in the same division? Are the Top clubs really so far ahead? Another disturbing development and another really sad day for football as finance and premiership survival become the be all and end all. Its bad enough playing under strength teams in the cup competitions and now this. You have to ask what is the point of bothering at all when it comes to this. The whole point of playing in the top division and one of the highlights is when you go to places like Old Trafford and play against and test yourself against the top teams - thats what football is all about. An absolute disgrace and the Wolves fans I know who went up last night (3,000 of them went up) are really angry about it. No wonder they were singing ' We want our money back' At first I thought you said you knew 3000 Wolves fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 When they get round to acting on Man Utd(v West Ham) and Liverpool(v Fulham) leaving both teams to survive relegation at Shef Utd's expense they can start complaining imo. End of the day they were highly unlikely to get anything at OT so protecting players against injury/suspension in such a game especially after a very welcome surprise at Spurs is a good plan(although against the spirit of the game) Of course if they dont beat Burnley at home then its arguably a wasted exercise Manchester United also did it at Hull on that horrible day last season. and they still won Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Yes they did but they didn't expect to pick up 3 pts against Spurs, so had 3 points more then they expected. Fair play to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 He did what he thought was the best for his team, give a rest to his senior players and give a chance to the others, they were never going to beat Man Utd anyway.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Its lucky Burnley didnt think like that isnt it. Moronic to not even try, doesnt matter if the odds are stacked against you. Shouldnt give up a game at any point let alone before it even starts, embarassingly defeatist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 My mate went up for this one, he is pissed off he paid £42 to watch the reserves play, he's pissed off with Mick McCarthy's negative attitude, he thinks they could have got a point with their first team. He said anything but a victory at Burnley now and he will be furious! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Also, is it just me or is this Man Utd side quite beatable? Theyre relying on a mid-30's player Giggs as their main creativity, their defence is knacked and Rooney doesnt have a partner upfront...theyre alot poorer than the league suggests Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudToBeAGeordie Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Did nowt wrong in my opinion, Big game against Burnley this weekend. Whichever team he would have put out, they would have got beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Pretty sure Man Utd made five changes themselves. Don't really care tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSC Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Also, is it just me or is this Man Utd side quite beatable? Theyre relying on a mid-30's player Giggs as their main creativity, their defence is knacked and Rooney doesnt have a partner upfront...theyre alot poorer than the league suggests Completely agree. Wolves clearly threw the game because they didnt believe they had any chance to win it. However i believe they should have given it a go seeing Man Utd look far more vulnerable this year than in previous years and were even defeated by burnley earlier in the season, anything is possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Its shocking, teams have got something at Old Trafford on many occasions and it shows a complete lack of respect to the fans. And when did professional footballers stop being able to play 2 games in 5 days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Yes they did but they didn't expect to pick up 3 pts against Spurs, so had 3 points more then they expected. Fair play to them. Yep, Hull went and won at Arsenal & Spurs which effectively kept them up. Imagine if Phil Brown had rested his big players like Geovanni for those games to keep him for the likes of ourselves and Boro? We'd have still been in the division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Strange actually, I remember laughing my head off when Geovanni scored that belter at Arsenal. If he'd hit row Z like would have happened 9 times out of 10, we'd still be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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