AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Gets more and more bizarre this. God knows how they came up with that punishment. Truly odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Not sure any of this will hold out in appeals tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 "You can't have a Toyota, Honda, and VW, but feel free to buy that Ferrari you need." What a strange punishment, but at least it's something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I can't believe any action was taken so quite impressed with the penalty. The loss of four players will be huge come the knockouts and the squad is tired. Hopefully they keep getting fined year on year. I'd be a total arse and include the fine in the next seasons allowance trapping them forever in a cycle of fines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 So both Champion's league finalists have around 1 billion in debt. PSG on the other hand, have zero debt, but get their money from a very rich authority (Qatar Sports Investments) who wants to promote its country through sports. At the end, UEFA decide to sanction the club with no debts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 You think they shouldn't? They only have no debts because they aren't actually competitive Football clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 You think they shouldn't? I think they should sanction, half of spanish clubs, Manchester United, Milan and a whole lot of clubs which have billions of debts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 You think they shouldn't? I think they should sanction, half of spanish clubs, Manchester United, Milan and a whole lot of clubs which have billions of debts. No new stadiums...ever! Be class watching the City, PSG, Bayern, Chelsea cup every season though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 You think they shouldn't? I think they should sanction, half of spanish clubs, Manchester United, Milan and a whole lot of clubs which have billions of debts. Why would they do that? There's nothing wrong with debt if its sustainable and clearly at the moment for those clubs it is, otherwise they'd be losing enough money per season to break FFP regulations. Almost every company have debt, Microsoft have billions in debt and its fine because they make massive sums of profit so its never an issue, in fact its usually seen as a good thing in business. Football isn't quite the same, but the fact is debt is really only a bad thing when its continued losses that can't be sustained. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 You think they shouldn't? I think they should sanction, half of spanish clubs, Manchester United, Milan and a whole lot of clubs which have billions of debts. That's idiotic. Every one takes on debt at one time or another. It's called financial fair play. It's intended to level the playing field and not allow massively rich owners to bankroll a team. It is in PSGs long-term interest for them to not be THAT reliant on a particular investor.* *all of this is in theory, obv its massively bent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 You think they shouldn't? I think they should sanction, half of spanish clubs, Manchester United, Milan and a whole lot of clubs which have billions of debts. That's idiotic. Every one takes on debt at one time or another. It's called financial fair play. It's intended to level the playing field and not allow massively rich owners to bankroll a team. It is in PSGs long-term interest for them to not be THAT reliant on a particular investor.* *all of this is in theory, obv its massively bent At the end, UEFA consolidate historical clubs positon's in European football, breaks every market regulations and laws within the EEA by not allowing any new market entrants. And I think they are very well aware of it, they won't risk of being successfully challenged before the Court of Arbitration for Sport and that is why they offering settlement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 You think they shouldn't? They only have no debts because they aren't actually competitive Football clubs. Got a point tbf though. How is anyone going to ever break the established clubs up long term? Take away clubs like Man City & PSG and it's the same establishment every fucking year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackM Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 You think they shouldn't? They only have no debts because they aren't actually competitive Football clubs. You think they shouldn't? They only have no debts because they aren't actually competitive Football clubs. Got a point tbf though. How is anyone going to ever break the established clubs up long term? Take away clubs like Man City & PSG and it's the same establishment every f***ing year. Got a point tbf though. How is anyone going to ever break the established clubs up long term? Take away clubs like Man City & PSG and it's the same establishment every f***ing year. but there are other ways of being successful...i.e. Dortmund, Atletico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Not long term though surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackM Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 i mean yeah it does seem to become harder and harder for smaller club to compete with the super clubs. but Dortmund are a good example of how it can be done. they've lost arguably their best player for each of the last three seasons but that's not stopped them from competing competing nationally and in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Seems like the only way to genuinely make it fair is to cap spending at a level that a mid-table club can afford, which will obviously never happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 i mean yeah it does seem to become harder and harder for smaller club to compete with the super clubs. but Dortmund are a good example of how it can be done. they've lost arguably their best player for each of the last three seasons but that's not stopped them from competing competing nationally and in Europe. It can be done if you are well run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Player salaries are the biggest problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 https://twitter.com/FootballLaw/status/467370160593305601 @FootballLaw Reports from @richard_conway that Galatasaray, Zenit, Anzhi, Man City & PSG have all failed FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 @OliverKayTimes Breaking: Manchester City fined €60million and Champions League squad reduced to max 21 players for breaches of Uefa FFP regs That'll learn 'em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 How much did they get for winning the league a week ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 @sportingintel CONFIRMED as expected: #mcfc have been fined €60m for FFP breaches & Champions League squad down to 21 players (13 foreign max) nxt season. Suppose that's quite interesting. Probably just means they'll hoover up the talented English players and/or be prepared to pay even more for the best foreigners though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 They get €40m of the fine back if they stick to the restrictions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Micah Richards agent's ears suddenly prick up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Eh? Surely that doesn't mean that they can just cut their losses if they don't fancy sticking to the rules? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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